List of Reasons You Don't Believe In God.

Padawanbater2

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There is a God, he is a man. God is not myth. I will tell anyone, for an absolute fact, there is a God. I'm not in any way a bible thumper, or very religious at all, or trying to preach, but there is a God, you may find him in death, or possibly within your lifetime.
What is the point of making this statement?
 

tyler.durden

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There is a God, he is a man. God is not myth. I will tell anyone, for an absolute fact, there is a God. I'm not in any way a bible thumper, or very religious at all, or trying to preach, but there is a God, you may find him in death, or possibly within your lifetime.
Or possibly behind the sofa, I'm always finding forgotten shit there...
 

snowmanexpress

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God spoke to me 3 years ago, and I don't really care if anyone believes me or not. See, I know he's real for a fact, while it's was hard for me to believe when I was young, you simply speculate his existence. I did too as well. I'll sit back and contemplate on some being more than haters. All I'm saying is, there is a God. What's so hard to comprehend about that?
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
God spoke to me 3 years ago, and I don't really care if anyone believes me or not. See, I know he's real for a fact, while it's was hard for me to believe when I was young, you simply speculate his existence. I did too as well. I'll sit back and contemplate on some being more than haters. All I'm saying is, there is a God. What's so hard to comprehend about that?
The God-experience is subjective and individual. You have had one and I do not challenge that. However I think you reach too far when you declaratively universalize your experience (All I'm saying is [that] there is a God.), and use a rhetorical device to make dissenters seem stupid (What's so hard to comprehend about that?). Because you have had one does not mean that I did, or will or (the important part) should. cn
 

Beefbisquit

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If you had a vision, and in the vision a "god-like" presence tells you there is a god, that could change your life and has the potential to turn a non-believer into a believer. You would make a connection between the vision, and the existence of god.

If you had a vision, and in the vision a "god-like" presence tells you there isn't a god, you would just chalk it up to some crazy vision with no meaning.


I argue that both of these experiences hold the same merit, and should be given the same amount of consideration; but, people want to believe so they just ignore the "misses" and keep track of the "hits".
 

eye exaggerate

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If you had a vision, and in the vision a "god-like" presence tells you there is a god, that could change your life and has the potential to turn a non-believer into a believer. You would make a connection between the vision, and the existence of god.

If you had a vision, and in the vision a "god-like" presence tells you there isn't a god, you would just chalk it up to some crazy vision with no meaning.


I argue that both of these experiences hold the same merit, and should be given the same amount of consideration; but, people want to believe so they just ignore the "misses" and keep track of the "hits".
...that's a cool thought. I think that by nature all people want to track the hits because that reflects their interior state. I think a 'warrior on the block' hunts white elephant :)
 

snowmanexpress

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If you had a vision, and in the vision a "god-like" presence tells you there is a god, that could change your life and has the potential to turn a non-believer into a believer. You would make a connection between the vision, and the existence of god.

If you had a vision, and in the vision a "god-like" presence tells you there isn't a god, you would just chalk it up to some crazy vision with no meaning.


I argue that both of these experiences hold the same merit, and should be given the same amount of consideration; but, people want to believe so they just ignore the "misses" and keep track of the "hits".

No, I wouldn't say that because, conversely, they would be two totally different visions or thoughts, and naturally, as a miss that's all you would chalk it up as. At least that's what I would think. It's those very unfamiliar situations and reasons or experiences to really strike a nerve in our psyche to combine that sort of an experience to something attributed to God. At least in my opinion. A vision from God is extremely different than that of our human imagination I'd have to say.
 

snowmanexpress

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The God-experience is subjective and individual. You have had one and I do not challenge that. However I think you reach too far when you declaratively universalize your experience (All I'm saying is [that] there is a God.), and use a rhetorical device to make dissenters seem stupid (What's so hard to comprehend about that?). Because you have had one does not mean that I did, or will or (the important part) should. cn
My experience absolutely was individual, and I wanted to come in here and say, from my own account, if I could add an argument for God instead of against him, especially from my experience, I would and will. And like I said, I didn't believe one nasty bit. There is no god, I'd mumble, and continue on my day. Especially when Im making an argument for my life over some bad shit, like theft, or lying. I've stolen, I've lied. I'm not perfect. But that's how I'd relate my experiences because I am one to commit god into my habits of what is good and bad...such as "sin". I'm not trying to be a jerk, a high handed preacher or to try and rub God in anyone's face. I'm telling you my experience and damn me to hell if I'm lying. I can't prove it but, I'd like to tell you about it.

My rhetoric stems absolutely from the thread itself. As in, I hope I'm talking to the people in this thread as well as outside of it too. "Whats so hard to comprehend about that" I wrapped in the end because of the natural denial of god to me now is hard to comprehend from my experience that day. Sorry to be rude.

Its not the context I'd like to dissect, moreover, the denial of God himself, and that I would like to say, he does infact, exist. What he wants, and seemingly what I want, seem to be very different things sometimes.
 

snowmanexpress

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If god told you to kill yourself, your child, or someone else, would you do it?

Without question. Because I'm absolutely positive, that I can discern my own voice, compared to Gods'. I'd hope you could tell the difference too. And let me tell ya, it's not hard. Because if God ever spoke to you, you'd know it.
 

mindphuk

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Without question. Because I'm absolutely positive, that I can discern my own voice, compared to Gods'. I'd hope you could tell the difference too. And let me tell ya, it's not hard. Because if God ever spoke to you, you'd know it. Believe me.
IMO that makes you a very dangerous person and people should stay the fuck away from you.
 

Beefbisquit

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Without question. Because I'm absolutely positive, that I can discern my own voice, compared to Gods'. I'd hope you could tell the difference too. And let me tell ya, it's not hard. Because if God ever spoke to you, you'd know it.
Tell that to a schizophrenic... when you start having psychosomatic auditory hallucinations you can comment on how "easy" it is to tell your voice apart from "gods".

God, if it were real, would have the ability to convey its exact message without saying anything to anyone. Everyone would just know, and since we don't just "know", it stands to reason that god isn't talking to anyone. The people who hear god speak are more than likely mentally ill.
 

Beefbisquit

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Well, I'm sure there's some nutty skitzo's out there. But, ya like I said, you'd know it.
No. You don't. That's the entire point, to a schizophrenic their inner dialogue doesn't seem to be coming from "them". It's from elsewhere, outside their mind; when in all actuallity they've just lost the ability to discern what is reality and what is not.

No un-medicated schizophrenic knows for a fact that everything is in their head. I take it you've never done any psychology or worked with mentally challenged and disabled people?
 
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