Light upgrade day!

Burndoggin said:

OK, thank you.
Full water
Yes it has a dimmer, 25% increments.
I was under the impression that they had started to flower being autos and a month in..... (I know. Big noob mistake)
So when I got the light I was 24" away @ 75% and they were happy.....
Thinking they were in flower I put it up to 100% and have lowered it every couple of days and now 12" away....
Should I continue at this or back it off?
Thanks again

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Autos? Ya I'd go back to 24" away at 75% and increase or decrease it slowly from there if they need it
12" away according to your chart is prob double what they can handle.

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Jjgrow420 said:

Autos? Ya I'd go back to 24" away at 75% and increase or decrease it slowly from there if they need it
12" away according to your chart is prob double what they can handle.

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Done, moved it 22" but still at 100%...would dropping the intensity and height at the same time be detrimental?
Finally able to do a full proper watering. Had to add a drop of dawn on the last watering, as the soil had gone hydrophobic... The water can finally reach the bottom. Another noob mistake, but learning every day My water was just running out the sides.
Now I take my time. And dbl back until runoff...... Probably run into overwatering issues next?
All comments greatly appreciated and taken

Edit: Dropped it to 75%... Y'all know way more than I do.

Jjgrow420 said:

Autos? Ya I'd go back to 24" away at 75% and increase or decrease it slowly from there if they need it
12" away according to your chart is prob double what they can handle.

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Amazing how fast they come back from the state they were in.
I'm 22 away at 75%.
So just keep em like this?
Until what stage would I turn to 100%
Im also figuring out that I have to work on my patience... In life and grow lol

Burndoggin said:

Amazing how fast they come back from the state they were in.
I'm 22 away at 75%.
So just keep em like this?
Until what stage would I turn to 100%
Im also figuring out that I have to work on my patience... In life and grow lol

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They're def looking better. But still not great. I'd even turn it down a bit more until the plants start turning their leaves back up. Wilting droopy leaves = unhappy. With autos, I never turn my LEDs to 100%. Usually 60-75% max. It's about dli. Running more light hours increases the dli so you don't need to run as intense as you would with a photoperiod. In fact, you'll get bigger, better buds with a lower output over a longer period of time eg 18, 20 or 24 hrs
Find a spot where the plants are happy leaves pointing up or at least just not droopy. Then you wait a few days and increase by like 5%. Keep doing this until they get wilty at the end of the day. Back it off 5-10% and you're in the money zone.

I know it seems weird. .... Less % on the lights better bud? But it's about the light and time. Not just the light itself. Check out dli. Learn about it but don't worry about hitting specifics. Get in the ballpark and watch for the plants response

Burndoggin said:

Im also figuring out that I have to work on my patience... In life and grow lol

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Patience is a virtue.

Burndoggin said:

Done, moved it 22" but still at 100%...would dropping the intensity and height at the same time be detrimental?
Finally able to do a full proper watering. Had to add a drop of dawn on the last watering, as the soil had gone hydrophobic... The water can finally reach the bottom. Another noob mistake, but learning every day My water was just running out the sides.
Now I take my time. And dbl back until runoff...... Probably run into overwatering issues next?
All comments greatly appreciated and taken

Edit: Dropped it to 75%... Y'all know way more than I do.

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Try watering very slow. Small amount....wait. Small amount. Wait.
What's your medium?

Budzbuddha said:

Congrats on new toy ….

Just be cautious of mashing the pedal on them as LED light is rather harsh on some plants. Judge plant response over power setting.
You will find by having more pedal to play with doesn’t mean you will ever need it. You can balance height / dimming power over canopy to find your preferred level.

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This is good advice you should listen to @Burndoggin
It's like the last gear in my truck....it's there but I'll never need to go 140kmh+ on the road so I'll never use it.

Jjgrow420 said:

Try watering very slow. Small amount....wait. Small amount. Wait.
What's your medium?

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I'm in promix hp, ewc, compost, gaia green 444 and top dressed with 444 and 284 last week with ewc... Probably shouldn't have but what's done is done on that.
My light can only do 25% incremental, 400$ for a controller is out of my range (any cheaper alternative for dimming?)
.Should I raise them more or drop it to 50% till better looking?
On 19-5 light atm.....
Dli is one thing I have not deep dived into.... Next on my list as I have the week off.
Thanks cannot be said enough, for the sharing of info.
mucho grassy ass amigo
I'll hope for the best with what damage has been done, and live and learn with it.

Burndoggin said:

I'm in promix hp, ewc, compost, gaia green 444 and top dressed with 444 and 284 last week with ewc... Probably shouldn't have but what's done is done on that.
My light can only do 25% incremental, 400$ for a controller is out of my range (any cheaper alternative for dimming?)
.Should I raise them more or drop it to 50% till better looking?
On 19-5 light atm.....
Dli is one thing I have not deep dived into.... Next on my list as I have the week off.
Thanks cannot be said enough, for the sharing of info.
mucho grassy ass amigo
I'll hope for the best with what damage has been done, and live and learn with it.

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That's all we can do live and learn bro.
Should you raise it or dim it well that's up to you. Both would have a similar effect. Raising the light increases your footprint but lowers your par levels dimming lowers the par but doesn't change footprint. Dimming also will be cooler as the light isn't producing as much heat. That could be both good or bad depending on your situation. So it's kinda up to you.
I'd also ease up on the feedings. I don't think you did anything terrible but they def look well fed so I wouldn't add anything more for a few weeks when the Gaia is running low.

Damage control..... Lights at 75% 22" above most of the canopy. Tried different LST methods on each so a top is much higher than the rest.

Ready for a water after light on tonight.
Room temp between 78-82
RH around 55
Dont have a or thermo to check leaf temps. For proper VPD check.
DLI on 2 is around 37 and the other 2 are around 43
Also trying to dial in my phone to take proper pic. But not having much luck,ankther thing to put on the learning list.
How do they look?

Billy the Mountain said:

At 100%:
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What light are these readings for ?

Dave455 said:

What light are these readings for ?

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The light mentioned in the first post: https://photontek-lighting.com/led/x-465w-pro-led/

Ok,Light's been at 50 percent, 22" away. since the last update. 18/6 light sched, off time from 12-6pm.
Not much going on besides getting greener. Only thing I'm trying to do now. I've screwed em up so bad I don't know what stage their in or even worth riding out at this point.

But I'm dam determined to get this right.

I bought an Inkbird 308 Wifi and have set that up after grabbing the little oil heater today, I'ts been crazy temp swings in Vancouver - 30 last week and down to 12 at night for the past week.
Does anyone have any optimal setting when using an Inkbird?
It's set to 78 with a 2 degree swing up and 5 down

So starting with that, the only thing I don't like is that the inkbird is hooked up to the exhaust fan and is not always on to replenish the air....I's this a biggie?

Vents at the bottom are open and 1 fan on atm and 2 available.
Humidity is being controlled atm by the Levoit cold air mist with app, it's pretty accurate to my govee temp and humidity so I'm comfortable with that... for now.
I could use the spare room its in as a lung room and heat that instead, but trying to keep cost down..Cant belive how cool this LED runs, but it is only at half power.

Watering is going well, using the lift measure,

That it for today.
Thanks for taking the time to check out my mess.

1 week later update;
I've had the light at 50%, 22" away. 18/6
Ppfd is around 350 to 400
Dli is low trying to get them back in shape.
Finally go both inkbirds setup.
Humidity and temps are on the same side now.
As this is my first time, can someone tell me if I'm just wasting this run.... I'd like to ride it out since I'm learning so much... The hard way .
Should I defolitate the heavy leaf ones? Or leave em?
Continue doing what I'm doing and hope for the best?
Change anything?
Thanks again for stopping by to check out my mess

10 days later.... Lights up at the top of the tent @ 100% and dialing it in.
They look tired.
Been battling fungus gnats with cinnamon, worked for a bit, but they are there. Tried a bit of hydrogen perox spray on top of soil... Will see.
Got a ir thermo and leaf temp is only 75 when the tent is 82. VPD is good. Dli 37
I wanted to defolitate more but I don't want to stress em out anymore then I have already.
Alot of little larf... Should I just let it go or cut them off?
Thanks again fellas.
Learning a shit load in my first grow

Limping to the end.
Well over the last month I've culled 3 and have one left.
Screwed up the feeding and had way to much N.
Some nice nugs on the one that's left and hoping to get it to the finnish.
Yellowing leafs, probably cus I haven't given it anything besides tap water.
Im thinking to just leave them till the Amber triyks come along.
Im very happy with whatever I get from this, being my first grow.
Thanks to everyone for the help, info and critiquing.
RIU rocks!

your doing great !

Well, first grow under the belt!
The photontek worked magnificent, now that I understand how to dial it it with the lux meter to ppfd meter app for awesome par measurement. Definitely recommend to anyone looking for a cheaper alternative par meter.
I learned soooo much from RIU, thank you all.
Can't name every post that helped me out.


On to...... round 2........Fight!