Leothwyn
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Nice generalizations. I think, people, in general, often are reluctant to admit to being wrong.
Can you show me a few of the conservative admissions of error in policy/action?
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Can you show me a few of the conservative admissions of error in policy/action?
RickWhite
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Putting criticism of a sitting President aside, since it always occurs and will never change.
What Left wing talking heads do Conservatives say they hate? None.
Who hates Capitalism? Liberals.
Who thinks "the man" is "keeping them down"? Liberals.
Who thinks America is still the land of opportunity? Conservatives.
Who thinks Christians are dangerous for no reason? Liberals.
Who thinks radical Muslims are not dangerous and are in fact mostly fiction? Liberals.
Who is against radical Muslims and others who hate us? Conservatives.
Who thinks dictators that murdered millions are evil? Conservatives.
Who thinks such dictators are visionaries? Liberals.
Who thinks that it is unfair because I make good money and they don't? Liberals.
Who thinks I earned my money? Conservatives.
Who thinks it is unfair for a business owner to make more than his employees? Liberals.
Who thinks I should pay for their health care? Liberals.
Who thinks hard working people shouldn't have to pay for crack heads and criminals? Conservatives.
Who thinks people are responsible for their own lives? Conservatives.
Who thinks the Government should form a nanny state? Liberals.
Who thinks America has been a source of exploitation in the World? Liberals.
Who thinks America has been the greatest source of good of any Nation? Conservatives.
Should I go on? Sounds like proof to me.
What Left wing talking heads do Conservatives say they hate? None.
Who hates Capitalism? Liberals.
Who thinks "the man" is "keeping them down"? Liberals.
Who thinks America is still the land of opportunity? Conservatives.
Who thinks Christians are dangerous for no reason? Liberals.
Who thinks radical Muslims are not dangerous and are in fact mostly fiction? Liberals.
Who is against radical Muslims and others who hate us? Conservatives.
Who thinks dictators that murdered millions are evil? Conservatives.
Who thinks such dictators are visionaries? Liberals.
Who thinks that it is unfair because I make good money and they don't? Liberals.
Who thinks I earned my money? Conservatives.
Who thinks it is unfair for a business owner to make more than his employees? Liberals.
Who thinks I should pay for their health care? Liberals.
Who thinks hard working people shouldn't have to pay for crack heads and criminals? Conservatives.
Who thinks people are responsible for their own lives? Conservatives.
Who thinks the Government should form a nanny state? Liberals.
Who thinks America has been a source of exploitation in the World? Liberals.
Who thinks America has been the greatest source of good of any Nation? Conservatives.
Should I go on? Sounds like proof to me.
OregonMeds
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I answered each one in the quoted text above.
You should read more, you sound like you lack some basic knowledge or have a very hard time ever looking at things from other points of view. Maybe if you read some fiction and could imagine things from other points of view it would help you in real life and if you read some non-fiction too I think you'd be set.
You should understand the world is vast and doesn't exist in the extremes you seem to only think in. There is middle ground and most people are somewhere in the middle.
I have a extremely hard time believing you are actually a business owner and successful with such a narrow hateful view. How can you deal with employees if you can't see things from both sides and different angles?
Haul me to Heaven
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Agreed Rick!
And the post above (OregonMeds) is just more denial of simple statements.
You mentioned 'Radical Islam' and he changed your point so as to argue with the statement of known fact.
And the post above continued to do that again and again.
Not once seeing the truth contained within each statement.
Cheers Rick!
Well done!
And true!
Justine
Leothwyn
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Come on Rick, do you really believe those silly stereotypes? All but the last three things that you've tried to pin on liberals are totally ridiculous.
Liberals think radical muslims are not dangerous, and they don't think that dictators that murdered millions are evil? Those were my favorites.
You need to get away from your computer, tv, and radio for a while and mix with real people.
Someone could just as easily post a bunch of questions aimed at portraying conservatives as a bunch of bigoted, uncaring people - and I'd also call that bullshit. People in my immediate family are christian conservatives, and I know them to be good people. They are not a bunch of foaming-at-the-mouth kooks, like limbaugh and beck. Most people don't fit the caricatures and stereotypes that people like limbaugh and beck spew out daily (and you regurgitate here).
Liberals think radical muslims are not dangerous, and they don't think that dictators that murdered millions are evil? Those were my favorites.
You need to get away from your computer, tv, and radio for a while and mix with real people.
Someone could just as easily post a bunch of questions aimed at portraying conservatives as a bunch of bigoted, uncaring people - and I'd also call that bullshit. People in my immediate family are christian conservatives, and I know them to be good people. They are not a bunch of foaming-at-the-mouth kooks, like limbaugh and beck. Most people don't fit the caricatures and stereotypes that people like limbaugh and beck spew out daily (and you regurgitate here).
Dreadscale
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"Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." Matthew 7:6
"Be afraid....these are religious men!"
RickWhite
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Of course there are varying views among Liberals just as there are among Conservatives. I was referring to those on the far Left - those who espouse Socialism. That really should be obvious and we all know who here fits that description.
I'm sure not all Liberals believe ever thing exactly as stated, but many do. Therefore it is correct to call these Liberal positions. Not all Conservatives believe in school prayer or in reversing Roe V Wade, but it isn't incorrect to say that these are Conservative positions. See, I never said "all" Liberals, I merely pointed out in which camp each belief belongs to tie into my OP.
Some of you would do well to avoid accusing someone of ignorance when they are demonstrably smarter and more educated than you by several orders of magnitude.
I'm sure not all Liberals believe ever thing exactly as stated, but many do. Therefore it is correct to call these Liberal positions. Not all Conservatives believe in school prayer or in reversing Roe V Wade, but it isn't incorrect to say that these are Conservative positions. See, I never said "all" Liberals, I merely pointed out in which camp each belief belongs to tie into my OP.
Some of you would do well to avoid accusing someone of ignorance when they are demonstrably smarter and more educated than you by several orders of magnitude.
Leothwyn
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I see. Well, it didn't seem obvious to me. I didn't realize that all of the silly generalizations that you throw around about liberals were just referring to the extreme, far left and not just liberals in general.
Still, if someone posted some questions like this:
Who are the backwards, racist bigots? conservatives.
Who are the narrow-minded sexists and homophobes? conservatives.
Who are the people that use a bunch of old fairy-tales to justify their bigotry and hatred? conservatives.
I'd say that they were bad generalizations. Sure, there are conservatives that takes those stances, but to imply that all conservatives are that way seems unfair IMO. I'd call it over-simplified bullshit - just like I'm calling your little questionnaire that same thing.
andrewdickson
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This is basically a glorified troll.
Mistaking rational discourse that sometimes includes US condemnation=self-hating leeebrals.
Mindless, droning nationalism=patriotism. Liberals hate America, doncha know?
Etc. It's just a far-right talking points memo, basically. Lacking any quantifiable position with which to argue, vague, un-sourced and incorrect personal jabs looking for bait.
Lame, brotha.
Mistaking rational discourse that sometimes includes US condemnation=self-hating leeebrals.
Mindless, droning nationalism=patriotism. Liberals hate America, doncha know?
Etc. It's just a far-right talking points memo, basically. Lacking any quantifiable position with which to argue, vague, un-sourced and incorrect personal jabs looking for bait.
Lame, brotha.
Haul me to Heaven
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Hummm. I see it differently.
Libs are against the conservation of the US Constitution.
Hence what makes a REAL conservative- a conservative to begin with.
Libs are against the conservation of the US Constitution.
Hence what makes a REAL conservative- a conservative to begin with.
andrewdickson
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The irony of a brand(IE Republicanism, Conservatism as it's often labed today)is that they are the biggest crusaders towards the ravaging of the Constitution today.
They champion the war on drugs.
They champion the war on sex behind the closed doors.
They champion the dismantling of any semblance of privacy via The Patriot Act.
it's a common and unfortunate mistake that many reasonable people make. This notion that conservatism is about small government. Please-it's about massive government, just in different forms.
Haul me to Heaven
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Yes Neo-cons did this with the full support of the libs. True conservatives are not 'neo cons' or 'libs'.
True conservatives are like the real patriots of old.
Mention all the parties by name and I will tell you that I'm a conservative American. Guess which 'party' we are a part of? And it's NOT the repubs.
RickWhite
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OK, let me educate you a little bit on the difference between a generalization and a personal attack.
Saying that Liberals are for income redistribution is an actuate and fair generalization. Sure, some people who identify themselves as Liberal might not be but most are.
Calling someone a racist and a bigot is simply name calling.
Do you see the difference?
But I must ask, are you really that lacking in your intellectual abilities that you needed this explained or are you just trying to be a smart ass because it is the best you can muster?
jakethetank
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thats funny shit, and true
Haul me to Heaven
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Agreed!!!!!
Leothwyn
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Name calling... exactly. That's my point. Your bullshit generalizations are pretty much that - just thinly disguised.
You say that liberals don't think radical muslims are dangerous, and that they don't think that dictators who murder millions are evil. You're calling them stupid and cold-hearted.
So, my answer is - no, I don't see the difference.
You say that liberals don't think radical muslims are dangerous, and that they don't think that dictators who murder millions are evil. You're calling them stupid and cold-hearted.
So, my answer is - no, I don't see the difference.
If you're going to be condescending, then fuck you too.