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I think it's probably more like AC/DC=THC/CBD...

But I get what BadKarma is saying...too much trying to prove people wrong...if it's wrong it will show in the end. Otherwise it shouldn't be bothering you.
No offense to anyone, but I blow off a lot of post on here because it they are simply wrong(imo)...but going to take way to much time and effort to correct it...and just makes me look like a stuck up, know it all, dick if I were to just say someone is wrong and I am right, even if you are.
Why does it matter...he is not trying to sell you cuts of it...just stating that he has it, is going to/is growing it, and what the information and/or trust he has in it at this point in time.

Bad Karma said:

Hyroot, do me a favor, try replacing the word "person" with "bud tender" in that sentence.
Do you see the contradiction yet?

Okay, how about Dictionary.com?
Definitions #3 and #4 both apply to your statements.
Source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/contradiction?s=t



All of this bickering, just because you believe ruderalis is a sub-breed, and nothing good can come from it.
The name AC/DC itself references two things coming together, originally alternating and direct current, but in this case, photoperiod and autoflower.

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I didn't get it from a dispensary though . I got it from another grower.. Which came from seed. So still no contradiction. That person never said anything about it being the ac/dc pheno. He had not had it tested. He had other 2 tested that were 20:1 cbd. The one I got was the only one he had clones of at the time... I used the term bud tender because you quote a dispensary. The majority of dispensaries lie. Anyway I plan on making edibles with it for sick people. Give it to them for free.


btw you brought up old shit. I blew it off months ago.

Anyways, here's another couple of glamor shots from my main flowering tent.

Cerberus
(This girl smells exactly like cantaloupe and is crushing her sister phenos in every way possible)


The Timewreck (Space Queen Pheno) is such a diva, she demanded better lighting for her photos!


Next stop, the breeding tent...

Bad Karma said:

Anyways, here's another couple of glamor shots from my main flowering tent.

Cerberus
(This girl smells exactly like cantaloupe and is crushing her sister phenos in every way possible)


The Timewreck (Space Queen Pheno) is such a diva, she demanded better lighting for her photos!


Next stop, the breeding tent...

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Fucking yummy ....................soil/cocco mix/nutrients ?????? whatever you do, keep doing it grower

PSUAGRO. said:

Fucking yummy ....................soil/cocco mix/nutrients ?????? whatever you do, keep doing it grower

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Thank you, sir.
I just use Happy Frog and the General Organics line of nutes.
Although I am seriously considering switching over to some sort of Super Soil recipe in the near future.

BML SPYDR 600

43 days from first pistils

Med-Man Silver Skunk Bx1

My Hybrid Hydro System

Hydroponic- Research V+B

Bad Karma said:

Thank you, sir.
I just use Happy Frog and the General Organics line of nutes.
Although I am seriously considering switching over to some sort of Super Soil recipe in the near future.

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I hear you grower.................hoping my DTE vegan/psu soil mix will go the distance this time, the simplicity alone is worth it=====just add water. So far so good, will see.

Getting off of bottles is a good move IMO

be safe BK

Alright, as promised, here is my breeding tent.
My girls are all fat, and swollen, with seeds.
Some of the seed pods are starting to pop open and say hello to the world.

Chucky's Bride x Cerberus


Timewreck (Space Queen Pheno) x Cerberus


Anesthesia x Cerberus


Dance World x Cerberus


Timewreck (Vortex Pheno) x Cerberus

Hydroponics/Led/Grow/Scrog/My_First_Time
Preparing for launch!!...5, 4, 3, 2, 1 more week! Wish me luck! 1st grow. The plan is germinating 8 seeds then transferring into rockwool >> Then 5 small plants graduate to the small teen stage area/tote >> and choose the most bad ass of 5 for that epic bucket <pic>. All advice welcome for a first time grower. This is a Led/hydro grow. Thanks in advance.

Happy 4th of July to all of my LED brethren

Amen!

DarthBlazeAnthony said:

Hydroponics/Led/Grow/Scrog/My_First_Time
Preparing for launch!!...5, 4, 3, 2, 1 more week! Wish me luck! 1st grow. The plan is germinating 8 seeds then transferring into rockwool >> Then 5 small plants graduate to the small teen stage area/tote >> and choose the most bad ass of 5 for that epic bucket <pic>. All advice welcome for a first time grower. This is a Led/hydro grow. Thanks in advance.

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All the best mate, I find I need calmag as a supplement during flowering or get a really nasty calcium deficiency so would advise getting a bottle in, its really cheap.

budman111 said:

I find I need calmag as a supplement during flowering or get a really nasty calcium deficiency...

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I read a couple web pages[1] about dissolving egg shells in vinegar and feeding it during transition to flower. It's helped my calmag deficiency in flower:

- http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/soil/msg0422555019136.html#GWCPostBody5
- http://gilcarandang.com/recipes/calphos/

I break the shells down to 1/4" pieces, toast in an under-cabinet toaster oven (could toast in a pan) until there is > 50% brown with some black. Put them in a large jar, fill with white vinegar using a quantity that is 2-5 times the volume of the eggs. Seal (not tightly at least until the bubbling stops in a couple days). After 2-3 weeks it's ready to use. If there are shells remaining on the bottom, it just means the solution is saturated -- which is good. If you use too much vinegar and the shells completely dissolve, you probably used too much vinegar and it's not fully saturated.

Feed 1 Tbsp/gal during transition, around the end of stretching, until quite a few bud sites are present. If growing hydro, you can foliar feed (I haven't done that). I use 2-3ml/gal calmag while using this, or 1/4 tsp epsom salt (I mix it things up a little during this time), then go straight 5ml/gal calmag when I stop supplementing egg shell.

One of those pages mentions feeding it again near the end of fruiting. I haven't tried that yet. Those pages aren't about cannabis, so not sure it applies. I want to try it about the time I feed a high PK bloom booster near the end.

I keep on seeing in all the forums that Cidly rebranded lights are cheap,suck at growing and will die right away, to name a few comments. I started seeing these comments after spending 800 + on an AgroMax Pro Series 340 watt unit. I am one that will read a bunch about something that I plan on buying but didn't do a huge amount this time and went with my gut after researching the HTG. I then looked more afterwards and see that they must be a Cidly product rebranded and was overcharged by a long shot if this is true..... Still not sure if you can custom order your own blend of spectrums in those pods I see in lots of lights but it looks it in the pictures you see. Anyway I germinated on May 1st fem seeds bought online and the popped in 24 hrs so started with the light up 48 inches and was to strong so went to t5 ho lights for 2 weeks....planted germinated seed pods in FFOF in 1/2 gallon pots for 2.5 more weeks under the agromax pro series....the growth in those 2.5 weeks was incredible so I transplanted again to 5 gallon pots.....9 total in a 4.5x4.5 tent I changed the lights to 12/12 at 5 weeks and the growth exploded again so I added side lighting....t5 ho in the corners and once I saw the buds coming out everywhere I just bought another AgroMax. Ok so now I've had the new light added for 1 week only....total watts in the tent would be 340 real watts x 2 and 216 watts of t5ho for corners that's 896 watts. I am now just rambling but this is the result so far with these so called cheap Chinese ripoff lights....at 9 weeks from seed being placed in the seed starter plug.....if I don't say so myself I believe in these lights

Montanarobert1963 said:

Still not sure if you can custom order your own blend of spectrums in those pods

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I ordered a Cidly Apollo 4 with custom spectrum on AliExpress (seller "Thunder Lighting") for $150 free shipping. I'm happy with it. I think there are much better lights for the money charged by Cidly rebranders. But, for $150 and custom spectrum, it's not a bad deal.

You might be able to buy just replacement modules from them. You can find them on Ali and send an email.

One caveat about your experience. Causation of a good grow is hard to pinpoint. For example, what someone's willing to pay for a light may indicate motivation which will manifest itself in other areas (soil, feeding, climate and pest control, etc.).

az2000 said:

I ordered a Cidly Apollo 4 with custom spectrum on AliExpress (seller "Thunder Lighting") for $150 free shipping. I'm happy with it. I think there are much better lights for the money charged by Cidly rebranders. But, for $150 and custom spectrum, it's not a bad deal.

You might be able to buy just replacement modules from them. You can find them on Ali and send an email.

One caveat about your experience. Causation of a good grow is hard to pinpoint. For example, what someone's willing to pay for a light may indicate motivation which will manifest itself in other areas (soil, feeding, climate and pest control, etc.).

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So true so true as with all things in life

az2000 said:

I ordered a Cidly Apollo 4 with custom spectrum on AliExpress (seller "Thunder Lighting") ..................

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Hi AZ, why do you keep calling them Cidly Apollos? Does this Thunder Lighting person have some kind of connection to the Cidly group? There are hundreds of LED companies that produce "Apollo" lights,
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=Apollo+LED, so if you don't mind me asking, how do you know, (and the keyword is "know" here), that what you're buying from TL comes from Cidly? I'm not trying to start a fight but is there something you know that RIU/I don't? I don't see how buying from a middleman is cheaper than buying direct. Or are you saying it's all the same shit?

http://cidlyled.en.alibaba.com/

FranJan said:

There are hundreds of LED companies that produce "Apollo" lights,

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I assume they all come from the same factory. You're right. I don't know.

FranJan said:

I don't see how buying from a middleman is cheaper than buying direct.

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For $150, custom spectrum and free shipping, I can't imagine purchasing directly from Cidly would be that much less. And, to be honest, I've never been motivated by "contact us for prices." When offered an up-front price like Thunder Lighting (and others), I'll take that before having to contact someone to find out what they charge.

But, as you pointed out in the prior paragraph, I'm assuming TL gets theirs from the same source. Had I considered they possibility they don't, I would have taken the time to contact Cidly.

I've been thinking of buying another. I'm going to contact Cidly directly to compare prices, and see if they can shed light on the multitude of Cidly resellers.

Thanks for making me think about that.

I agree. "Contact us" usually means "I can't afford it." hah

Here's a quick update on my Cerberus plants. The previously shown girl, Cerberus #3, continues to smell like cantaloupe, and has some big ass buds on her. She will be finishing up shortly.




Now, I didn't show off this next girl, Cerberus #4, last time because, well, there just wasn't that much to show. Things have really changed. She's clearly leaning to the OG side of her lineage, and smells like a combination of an old man's cologne, aftershave, and BO. She is packing on some actual size, and LOTS of sticky resin, as she starts to finally show some brown pistils.