LED newbie cabinet grow w/ hydro

brandon873

brandon873

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luckyskindaguy said:
Ah, ok. I don't know anything about how the autos work. They just stay on 18/6 all the way through?
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actually i am suppose to put them on 20/4 all the way through. but i have been screwin with the light schedual tryin to make i hermie. i want more auto flower seeds.
 
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r1zla

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Really nice topic here. Informative and lots of plant pr0n pics.

Starting my own LED/CFL grow, just on day 2 after planting the germed seeds, got 3 out of 4 showing already. Was a bit worried about the LED/CFl mix but after reading this i'm a lot more confident that i'll get a toke in about 10 weeks from now! :-)_
 
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r1zla

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Really nice topic here. Informative and lots of plant pr0n pics.

Starting my own LED/CFL grow, just on day 2 after planting the germed seeds, got 3 out of 4 showing already. Was a bit worried about the LED/CFl mix but after reading this i'm a lot more confident that i'll get a toke in about 10 weeks from now! :-)_
 
luckyskindaguy

luckyskindaguy

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r1zla said:
Really nice topic here. Informative and lots of plant pr0n pics.

Starting my own LED/CFL grow, just on day 2 after planting the germed seeds, got 3 out of 4 showing already. Was a bit worried about the LED/CFl mix but after reading this i'm a lot more confident that i'll get a toke in about 10 weeks from now! :-)_
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My only advice would be make sure the lights are no more than 12" for the tops of the plants. Best of luck!
 
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r1zla

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What i am really struggling with is coming up with how to put the lights together, i've been crawling about the grow journals hoping to find some idea's with wiring diagrams, that kinda thing. Thats how i've found your topic. I've really enjoyed reading it so +rep :)

I don't know much about the wiring but i am generally handy and have a rough idea but i would prefer to be running off some kinda howto so i dont go tripping the house electrics or causing a fire hazard.

I have 2 45w Led panels mixed with red's n blues. I have 6 23w veg and 6 23w flowering CFL's. to cover approx 1sq metre. I havent decided on a tent grow or a cabinet grow, but i have a walk in cupboard 5 foot tall, 3.5 foot x 3.5 foot area for it to go in so i'm limited in tent sizes. i dont want to light the whole cupboard so i am opting for a home made box or a small growtent.

I want to have 2 height adjustable light panels, I'm using short stuff femmed auto ONYX. max 90cm . 9 week seed to harvest so i am going to try for a perpetual 9-10 week grow.

When it's all going it should be 4 flowing plants under the flowering panel with 1 led, 2 blue and 4 red cfl's, then 5 plants under the other led with 4 blue and 2 red cfl's. planting a couple of seeds a week and when sex shows around weeks 2 re-pot strongest female. so under the veg lights should be 3 spindly plants and a couple of seedlings.

So in your experienced opinion of CFl's. when mounting them onto the panel hoding the LED panel, how should i arrange them? Should i have the dangling lampholders so they hang down in between the top colas or should i have them horizontal with a reflector above them? The Led panel is 30cm x 30cm x 4cm thick.

I aint asking for a wiring diagram but if wanna help point a stoner in the right direction would you be able to point me at a howto on setting up each panel to run from just one main wall plug? I've never wired a junction box before.
 
luckyskindaguy

luckyskindaguy

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r1zla said:
What i am really struggling with is coming up with how to put the lights together, i've been crawling about the grow journals hoping to find some idea's with wiring diagrams, that kinda thing. Thats how i've found your topic. I've really enjoyed reading it so +rep :)

I don't know much about the wiring but i am generally handy and have a rough idea but i would prefer to be running off some kinda howto so i dont go tripping the house electrics or causing a fire hazard.

I have 2 45w Led panels mixed with red's n blues. I have 6 23w veg and 6 23w flowering CFL's. to cover approx 1sq metre. I havent decided on a tent grow or a cabinet grow, but i have a walk in cupboard 5 foot tall, 3.5 foot x 3.5 foot area for it to go in so i'm limited in tent sizes. i dont want to light the whole cupboard so i am opting for a home made box or a small growtent.

I want to have 2 height adjustable light panels, I'm using short stuff femmed auto ONYX. max 90cm . 9 week seed to harvest so i am going to try for a perpetual 9-10 week grow.

When it's all going it should be 4 flowing plants under the flowering panel with 1 led, 2 blue and 4 red cfl's, then 5 plants under the other led with 4 blue and 2 red cfl's. planting a couple of seeds a week and when sex shows around weeks 2 re-pot strongest female. so under the veg lights should be 3 spindly plants and a couple of seedlings.

So in your experienced opinion of CFl's. when mounting them onto the panel hoding the LED panel, how should i arrange them? Should i have the dangling lampholders so they hang down in between the top colas or should i have them horizontal with a reflector above them? The Led panel is 30cm x 30cm x 4cm thick.

I aint asking for a wiring diagram but if wanna help point a stoner in the right direction would you be able to point me at a howto on setting up each panel to run from just one main wall plug? I've never wired a junction box before.
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Well, that is difficult to say for sure. I deally I think you will want to have your cfl's indepenant of any mounting as it relates to the LED's. I say this because they are not as bright and need to be closer to the plants. Some type of vertical setup on the sides of the plant would work best IMO. My cab is pretty small, so it is hard to do all that I want to and still have room for the number of plants that I have. I use the floodlight cfl to try and get a better cone of light focused on the plants since mine are mounted on either side of my LED fixture. I plan to change that setup for the next grow and will show the current positioning as well as the new one when I do the update. As far as wiring, I am not much help I'm sure. I ran 2 lead wiring in series to a regular light socket that you can get from Home Depot. I then wired that to an appliance cord and plugged it into an outlet. The LED has it's own cord an I plug that and the CFL cord into a timer to keep them in sync.

Hope that helps!
 
luckyskindaguy

luckyskindaguy

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The plants just keep looking better and better! Much better results compared to last grow's timeline. Kool Dry is gonna be added to new nutes on Saturday. Peachez has filled out nicely over the last week since I forced her into the light, lol! Cameo is looking beautiful! The leaves are starting to show more yellowing as the buds are getting bigger, this should increase as they go on ripen schedule this weekend.
Cameo:

DSCF4196.jpg,DSCF4198.jpg,DSCF4205.jpg,DSCF4210.jpg,DSCF4212.jpg,DSCF4214.jpg

Peachez:
DSCF4202.jpg,DSCF4200.jpg I'm giving her an A for effort!

Let me hear some opinions people! LOL! I see a lot of people view this thread each week, but only get one or two posts. ;)
 
luckyskindaguy

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I typed this up once but it didn't post for some reason so I will try again. Sorry it it posts twice.

I continue to be delighted with the growth that I am seeing. Cameo is just thickening up nicely and Peachez has filled out quite a bit in the last week since I forced her into the light. This saturday I will be adding the Kool Dry with the new nutes and cutting out the Kool Liquid.

Here comes the porn!

Cameo:
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Peachez:

View attachment 1057952,View attachment 1057958 I give her an A for effort!

Tell me what you guys think! I see a bunch of people view this thread, but only 1 or 2 actually post a comment! I would like to at least see who is showing interest! ;)
 
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r1zla

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luckyskindaguy said:
Well, that is difficult to say for sure. I deally I think you will want to have your cfl's indepenant of any mounting as it relates to the LED's. I say this because they are not as bright and need to be closer to the plants. Some type of vertical setup on the sides of the plant would work best IMO. My cab is pretty small, so it is hard to do all that I want to and still have room for the number of plants that I have. I use the floodlight cfl to try and get a better cone of light focused on the plants since mine are mounted on either side of my LED fixture. I plan to change that setup for the next grow and will show the current positioning as well as the new one when I do the update. As far as wiring, I am not much help I'm sure. I ran 2 lead wiring in series to a regular light socket that you can get from Home Depot. I then wired that to an appliance cord and plugged it into an outlet. The LED has it's own cord an I plug that and the CFL cord into a timer to keep them in sync.

Hope that helps!
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Helps lots mate, a plan is forming. No home depot in the UK but similar stores. So the plan wil be to rig up each CFl as an independent plugged and wired lamp that can be hung vertically down beside the plants with the LED's mounted separately.

New pics look awesome!
 
luckyskindaguy

luckyskindaguy

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So I got up early today (before 9 on a saturday) and changed to old nutes out and am running water and Florakleen for 2 hours (about 15 minutes left at the time of typing this). After that, I will be putting in fresh nutes for a ripening schedule which will include Koolbloom Dry for the first time in any of my grows. The buds look the fullest they have ever been so I hope they explode with growth and resin the last couple weeks. I am scaling back this grow to 9 weeks total. I plan to run the ripen nutes for 14-18 days and then flush with Florakleen and Water the last 4-7 days. I hope people are still getting some good info from my progress. Let me know what you guys think.

And here are the ladies as of this morning which is 6 weeks from switching to 12/12:

Cameo:

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Peachez:
DSCF4228.jpg,DSCF4230.jpg She is finally starting to get some density to her. She is rebounding just in time to bulk up from the KB dry hopefully!

As always, best of luck to all of you homegrowers!
 
tendran

tendran

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I like your progress for a cabinet grow. Can't wait to see your yield. I think you could maximize your space and lighting situation if you used a scrog net next time with your grow, that way you could distribute the canopy equally across all the lights. rather than having them growing directly into your CFL's and minimizing the LED exposure for the top of some of your plants. Just my thoughts though; and I admittedly have far more hours of study under my belt than growing. Keep up the good work though! Final shots are looking tasty.
 
luckyskindaguy

luckyskindaguy

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tendran said:
I like your progress for a cabinet grow. Can't wait to see your yield. I think you could maximize your space and lighting situation if you used a scrog net next time with your grow, that way you could distribute the canopy equally across all the lights. rather than having them growing directly into your CFL's and minimizing the LED exposure for the top of some of your plants. Just my thoughts though; and I admittedly have far more hours of study under my belt than growing. Keep up the good work though! Final shots are looking tasty.
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Thanks for stopping in and honoring me with your first post!

I have toyed with the idea of scrogging, but the problem I have been having is inconsistant plant height going into the cab. I have tried to keep plants shorter in Veg by femming, trimming, keeping lights close to tops..... I get mixed results. I think I have the best idea though. Now that I have a setup that allows taller plants in the rear and shorter plants in the front of my veg, I can now wait until the 2nd week of flowering before I actually clone. Before now I have always taken clones from plants going into flower 1-2 weeks prior. This is allowing my clones to get too big! Now that I have my cloning method down pat (which wasn't the case when I first started growing) I now have confidence in taking cuttings and letting them grow naturally in veg before going to flowering. My ideal height going into flower is about 15-18" tall. The grow that is going on now, each plant was over 20" tall and then they grew more than usual because they weren't stunted by too many nutes.

The bad part about learning new things is it takes 8-9 weeks before you test new theories and then get new results! GRrrrr, lol
 
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