Leaf taco please help

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5pointslo

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Hey guys wondering is this is a problem or not. Leaves are coming in kinda thin. Not full and flush. Growing in coco/ castings blend with Dey amendments and an occasional tea. Temps are 75-78
53-57% rh

Lights are set to 36” at 100w
Tent is a 2x2.5

I know the lights are set a little low on the watts but every time I turn it up past 120w the leaves start to curl and plants start going to sleep before lights out. 2 plants are jelly breath 1 peanut butter breath and 1 dosido. Any help is appreciated
 

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Boatguy

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Your plants lookk pretty heathy to me.
I have a 2x2.5 tent as well and have issues if i get above 130w.
How are your temps, airflow, and humidity?
 
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Boatguy said:
Your plants lookk pretty heathy to me.
I have a 2x2.5 tent as well and have issues if i get above 130w.
How are your temps, airflow, and humidity?
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Humidity naturally sits about 54% I did notice when I tried increasing to 60% the leaves began to taco as well and that was at lower temps. Two fans below the light not on the canopy aimed at the wall. Exhaust fan runs all the time. 6” ac infinity set to about 4
 
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5pointslo said:
Humidity naturally sits about 54% I did notice when I tried increasing to 60% the leaves began to taco as well and that was at lower temps. Two fans below the light not on the canopy aimed at the wall. Exhaust fan runs all the time. 6” ac infinity set to about 4
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Maybe the low temps stressed it out a little bit.
 
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Billy the Mountain said:
120w of light 36" is only a few hunded ppfd, about right for clones or seedlings.

Too much light is not the problem
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I know it’s four different plants in two different media’s however they’re all basically the same strain ish 2 jelly breath from in house, which is their version of pbb basically. one pbb from thugpug and a dosido which is one half of the pbb. Mendo breath x dosido = pbb. So to some extent it might not be far fetched to say they share similar traits
 
visajoe1

visajoe1

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Leave the light at the top of your tent and let the plant grow into it, I dont see any issues. Keep up the good work. 100w is a little on the low end, but still will produce decent nugs in there. I'm assuming its a QB board?

If it is a QB, you can maintain higher temps and humidity, closer to 82/60. Consider turning the exhaust down to 2
 
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5pointslo

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visajoe1 said:
Leave the light at the top of your tent and let the plant grow into it, I dont see any issues. Keep up the good work. 100w is a little on the low end, but still will produce decent nugs in there. I'm assuming its a QB board?

If it is a QB, you can maintain higher temps and humidity, closer to 82/60. Consider turning the exhaust down to 2
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It’s an electric sky v3 180 runs 200 watts max. I’ve heard everyone say you can run led temps higher but I never understood why I always try to keep it at 76-77 and my leaf temps are always 74-75
 
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5pointslo said:
It’s an electric sky v3 180 runs 200 watts max. I’ve heard everyone say you can run led temps higher but I never understood why I always try to keep it at 76-77 and my leaf temps are always 74-75
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We can run LED higher temps because IR values are typically lower on LED vs HID. You may be missing out some growth rate with those leaf temps. Maybe try it for few days and if you dont like what you see its easy to switch back. Either way, great work, happy growin!
 
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visajoe1 said:
We can run LED higher temps because IR values are typically lower on LED vs HID. You may be missing out some growth rate with those leaf temps. Maybe try it for few days and if you dont like what you see its easy to switch back. Either way, great work, happy growin!
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Okay should I try hitting closer to 82 by just lowering the exhaust that way Right? Or combine that with raising the lights up and turning up the watts?
 
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5pointslo said:
Okay should I try hitting closer to 82 by just lowering the exhaust that way Right? Or combine that with raising the lights up and turning up the watts?
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You got all 3 correct. Use your exhaust fan to control temps, raise lights up to the top (remove ratchet ropes too) and turn up to 100%.

Watch your temps, it may go higher than 82 if you dont run 100% light too often. If it does, increase exhaust one notch at a time and let it stabilize before adjusting further. Cloudline is a great fan, I use the same one.

Remember, your tent temps will always correlate to your room temp (e.g. hotter days outside will require higher exhaust speed or a/c inside)
 
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