LB's Wildly Mediocre DWC/ScROG Grow

Hydro4life

Hydro4life

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Hydro4life said:
That sucks man! 2 things I hate with a passion is root rot and spider mites haha.
Very nice stltoed!
Hey Logan, see how stltoed has defoliated and exposed the colas to light and air, all the way down. That’s pretty much what you want to do man. Especially on indica dominant strains.
Stltoed still has a decent leaf mass all the way down the colas.
And by the looks of it, has evenly removed leaves throughout the plant.
Nice example there!!
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Hey Logan and stltoed! I think I jinxed myself!!? My worst fear has come back after about 3 to 4 years! SPIDER MITES!! :wall:
have you guys had spider mites before?
TBH I couldn’t defeat them! I had to cull my perpetual grow and sterilise EVERYTHING and start again from seed :cry:
Please tell me you guys have some tips!!?
 
Logan Burke

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Hahaha ok man yeah I have a couple humidifiers I think I can bring it up at the least by 5-10%. Last night was a cooler night at 75-77F, that coupelled with the lower ppms hopefully helped them a bit. I passed out before posting pics last night, but here they are!
 

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Hydro4life said:
Hey Logan and stltoed! I think I jinxed myself!!? My worst fear has come back after about 3 to 4 years! SPIDER MITES!! :wall:
have you guys had spider mites before?
TBH I couldn’t defeat them! I had to cull my perpetual grow and sterilise EVERYTHING and start again from seed :cry:
Please tell me you guys have some tips!!?
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Oh no buddy I'm so sorry. As far as I know, the best approach is a multi pronged attack, like keeping the humidity higher instead of low, using multiple types of pesticides like Pyrethrin and Neem Oil, one one day and the other the next. You want one pesticide to follow up right behind the other to finish off any that are resistant or just didn't get covered by the first. I just said Pyrethrin and Neem Oil as examples, there may very well be better options than these! You've helped me a ton man you bet I'll try and help out here.
 
Logan Burke

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Then, given that you run cO2, you could always seal it all up and fill the rooms with co2? Suffocate the little bastards out in between pesticide applications? So that if any of them survive the pesticides, they get finished off by a lack of oxygen. Higher humidity will also slow them down, if memory serves correctly. They live their life cycles optimally in lower dry humidity, so keeping it higher (Say, 60%ish?) should help reduce how quickly they reproduce.
*Apologies for the triple post! I just kept remembering things that might help!*
 
Stltoed

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Hydro4life said:
Hey Logan and stltoed! I think I jinxed myself!!? My worst fear has come back after about 3 to 4 years! SPIDER MITES!! :wall:
have you guys had spider mites before?
TBH I couldn’t defeat them! I had to cull my perpetual grow and sterilise EVERYTHING and start again from seed :cry:
Please tell me you guys have some tips!!?
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Are you in from flower? If so, I've seen folks use a 6% peroxide solution. If your not in flower I think you could probably choose your weapon. I've never had em.
 
Logan Burke

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Oh yes I didn't consider that some may be in flower...as Stl said, peroxide is a relatively safe product to use. I've even heard of people spraying it on post-harvest buds that get mold during curing because the h202 evaporates and leaves behind the water. Would alcohol be a viable option, where it evaporates very quickly? Just off the top of my head, not sure if it would even help. But I think you could kill the vast majority of them via sealing your grow space, and filling with c02...I just don't know how your plants would tolerate not having oxygen for a small period of time?
 
Stltoed

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Logan Burke said:
Oh yes I didn't consider that some may be in flower...as Stl said, peroxide is a relatively safe product to use. I've even heard of people spraying it on post-harvest buds that get mold during curing because the h202 evaporates and leaves behind the water. Would alcohol be a viable option, where it evaporates very quickly? Just off the top of my head, not sure if it would even help. But I think you could kill the vast majority of them via sealing your grow space, and filling with c02...I just don't know how your plants would tolerate not having oxygen for a small period of time?
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I guess the only downside is a mold situation. Theres a ton of water in 6% peroxide solution
And I dont know how high you can go with the percentage. I burned the shit out of myself with 30% once. Dont do 30% haha. How bad is it? Do you have a lot of plants?
 
Stltoed

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Logan Burke said:
Oh yes I didn't consider that some may be in flower...as Stl said, peroxide is a relatively safe product to use. I've even heard of people spraying it on post-harvest buds that get mold during curing because the h202 evaporates and leaves behind the water. Would alcohol be a viable option, where it evaporates very quickly? Just off the top of my head, not sure if it would even help. But I think you could kill the vast majority of them via sealing your grow space, and filling with c02...I just don't know how your plants would tolerate not having oxygen for a small period of time?
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The CO2 thing sound intriguing. If it works then that's the way to do it for sure
 
Logan Burke

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Looks like lowering my ppm's did the trick, no more PH drop as of yesterday. Hopefully this is a sign that we're back on track.
 
Logan Burke

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Definitely keeping the ppm's lower from here forward! I don't want to risk them stalling out another week. It's looking like they're pretty happy with 1100-1300. I'm just dieing to get some real colas growing...I've never seemed to be able to get those giant, massive colas on my plants. Fingers crossed that with the extra lighting, and your all's guidance I can get to my .75 gram per watt goal on this grow. Oh, and I think I just ran into you over at GrassCity :P Or someone using your exact username haha.
 
Stltoed

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Logan Burke said:
Definitely keeping the ppm's lower from here forward! I don't want to risk them stalling out another week. It's looking like they're pretty happy with 1100-1300. I'm just dieing to get some real colas growing...I've never seemed to be able to get those giant, massive colas on my plants. Fingers crossed that with the extra lighting, and your all's guidance I can get to my .75 gram per watt goal on this grow. Oh, and I think I just ran into you over at GrassCity :P Or someone using your exact username haha.
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You'll get all this sorted out.
Yeah. I was taking a look at other forums. I'm usually on 420 Magazine. It's interesting how different they can be
 
Logan Burke

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Yeah I need to make an account on 420 myself, so far I'm just on RIU and GSC.
Is this my 1000w too far from my canopy here do you guys think? I didn't think hanging it by the fixture's hangers would bring it up so high.
 

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Stltoed

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Logan Burke said:
Yeah I need to make an account on 420 myself, so far I'm just on RIU and GSC.
Is this my 1000w too far from my canopy here do you guys think? I didn't think hanging it by the fixture's hangers would bring it up so high.
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honestly, I dont know about the light. I'm an LED guy I'm using HPS to give it a spin. Is that thing actually pushing 1000watts?
 
Logan Burke

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The big light in the center is a 1000w HPS, can't say that I've ever actually tested what it pulls from the wall though. Why do you ask?
 
Stltoed

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Logan Burke said:
The big light in the center is a 1000w HPS, can't say that I've ever actually tested what it pulls from the wall though. Why do you ask?
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I was just curious. I was thinking it's probably in a good spot considering it's such a high powered light. I run mine at 650 and it's between 18 and 24 inches away.
 
Logan Burke

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I still feel like my buds aren't growing as quickly as they should be, but maybe they're just still getting back into full swing from the nutrient issue and lights being too close...idk. I'm praying that they're just going to need longer to fill out and that's why they're going slow.
 

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Stltoed

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Logan Burke said:
I still feel like my buds aren't growing as quickly as they should be, but maybe they're just still getting back into full swing from the nutrient issue and lights being too close...idk.
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It's only been a few days. If you have done all you can do and everything is in order then theres simply nothing else to do but wait. They look good.

I'm in the same boat right now. My plants had some issues and one plant in particular really took it hard, but I have about a month left I MIGHT have enough time to see some good news, we'll see. The only thing i can think of that might help you a little bit is fulvic acid. It will help with chelating nutrients making it easier for the plants to absorb them. I've used a few different brands, the one I like the best is called Fulpower by Bioag.

If you're already using fulvic acid please disregard this message. Haha
 
Logan Burke

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Ok so you think I'm just maybe being a bit too impatient? I've definitely been known too haha, if anything I'm relieved that it's just me being impatient as opposed to something else being wrong. But anyhow, thanks for the reassurance! I've never used any type of fulvic acid but I'm going to look into finding some now, that will be in my next nute ressupply! And I hate to hear about your plants man, but as you said, with a month left to go surely you can still coax a nice harvest out? Best of luck to your babies! :)
 
Stltoed

Stltoed

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Logan Burke said:
Ok so you think I'm just maybe being a bit too impatient? I've definitely been known too haha, if anything I'm relieved that it's just me being impatient as opposed to something else being wrong. But anyhow, thanks for the reassurance! I've never used any type of fulvic acid but I'm going to look into finding some now, that will be in my next nute ressupply! And I hate to hear about your plants man, but as you said, with a month left to go surely you can still coax a nice harvest out? Best of luck to your babies! :)
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Dude, we are a lot alike. I hate waiting for good news. And I could be very wrong... Weve seen that too! Haha.

My issues were from poor mathematics. I was using Z7 and found i didnt really like it, as there was a dark stripe in one of my plants roots. I Used peroxide to clear that up. But, I was using 34% and mixed it wrong, burning the living shit out of this plant. And to a lesser degree the others. I'm not sure what will happen. Honestly, I'm over this grow. I'm gonna do SOG next time. Growing the mothers now... I really cant wait. RDWC SOG sounds kinda cool
 
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