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researchkitty said:

Rewired the 240v's ground wire from the neutral bus to the ground bus. Seems solid. The panel no longer beeps from the voltage detector if the circuit is off, so problem #1 solved.

I havent checked the other outlets on the top half since they pop the circuit in the small panel still.

The bottom outlets all flash that they have voltage, but when I plug in a ballast to the outlet nothing turns on. Doesnt trip anything, but doesnt work either. Any thoughts?

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If you have a voltage tester check each side of the plug for voltage you may only have 110 if so you may have blown one side of the barker reset and check voltage there, if OK than try the plug again.

This OK with you Arsehole?

woodsmaneh! said:

If you have a voltage tester check each side of the plug for voltage you may only have 110 if so you may have blown one side of the barker reset and check voltage there, if OK than try the plug again.

This OK with you Arsehole?

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Same advice I already gave

You might consider returning the water to the lake by attaching a cement block to the end of the line and dropping it in 6 feet of water. At that depth you would have no heat signature and would cause no harm. 500 gal a day = 21 gal an hour = .347 gal a min + no heat signature. Is there any current in the water? That's even better. Make sure what ever you do you put a flow-back stopper on the line going out.

woodsmaneh! said:

You might consider returning the water to the lake by attaching a cement block to the end of the line and dropping it in 6 feet of water. At that depth you would have no heat signature and would cause no harm. 500 gal a day = 21 gal an hour = .347 gal a min + no heat signature. Is there any current in the water? That's even better. Make sure what ever you do you put a flow-back stopper on the line going out.

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Why would she want to do that and deal with the additional hassle when she can drain to the sewer?

Because it's the right thing to do?

Bonzi Lighthouse said:

Because it's the right thing to do?

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I am not sure I understand the morality...

There is tons of current in the river portion. It's deep in a few areas, about 5 feet where I would take water from, and about 5 feet deep where I would drain water to if I did it that route.

The additional cost would just be another 150 foot of PVC which really isn't too terrible.




Just finished hanging up 8 lights and getting 128 buckets under lights............... Dropped down 100 seeds too courtesy of a good friend here........... They are Grapefruit Diesel, and also have some Ice Cream and Hash Plant Haze for later......... Tomorrow I'm going to go to Home Depot (again, every day for the last week at 24 miles each way!) to pick up a voltage meter to see which outlets are the troublesome ones to make the repair faster on the power outlets. For the cost I've put into the custom panel I should have ordered one of the 16 light controllers from CAP and just had to run the wire and the circuit which was pretty easy. Next time...........

kitty... 24? seriously?

pm me, please...

some things you need to know about pulling large loads like that...

NLXSK1 said:

I am not sure I understand the morality...

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Ya me neither, sewer water drains just fine, and gets filtered and used again.......... I pay for the service too.............. Some (smart) people exhaust their light heat through the sewer lines too. Even with CO2 you just use fresh air to cool your lights and vent that air out the sewer, with a free air exchange room it just vents out with the added bonus of guaranteed fresh air since the air is leaving the building when it exhausts............

researchkitty said:

Ya me neither, sewer water drains just fine, and gets filtered and used again.......... I pay for the service too.............. Some (smart) people exhaust their light heat through the sewer lines too. Even with CO2 you just use fresh air to cool your lights and vent that air out the sewer, with a free air exchange room it just vents out with the added bonus of guaranteed fresh air since the air is leaving the building when it exhausts............

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The only other option is that the lake evaporates into the air eventually... I am guessing it is a relatively large lake.

Maybe I'm missing something kitty, but the chiller I was looking into a while ago has these specs:

EcoPlus 1 HP Chiller Includes:
* Fittings: 1”
* Dimensions: 16.5” W x 20.25” D x 19” H
* Weight: 88 lbs.
* Voltage: 120V/60Hz
* Wattage: 1080
* Amps: 9
* BTU: 12,000
* Capable of Chilling: -1000 gallons - 10° F -500 gallons - 30° F
* Pump Size: -Minimum 1584 GPH -Maximum 2200 G

That's a long way from 21gph and this little thing is only enough for a couple kw of lights.

Do you have a better way or have you underestimated water flow you would need from that lake? A chiller is just a heat exchanger hooked to an a/c unit so I would expect you'd need similar water flow for just a heat exchanger in a lake to draw the same btu's.

No?

This is why I think we don't see eye to eye on this, but then again you said you have used chillers before so clue me in.

NLXSK1 said:

I am not sure I understand the morality...

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Ok hows this, is stealing sewer services any different than stealing electricity. What about the whole environmental impact of this commercial farm?

Now if she is on septic then that creates a whole other set of issues and i suspect that may be the case since her closest neighbor is 6 miles.

I'm assuming our "industry" has an environmental conscience.

Bonzi Lighthouse said:

Ok hows this, is stealing sewer services any different than stealing electricity. What about the whole environmental impact of this commercial farm?

Now if she is on septic then that creates a whole other set of issues and i suspect that may be the case since her closest neighbor is 6 miles.

I'm assuming our "industry" has an environmental conscience.

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She is not destroying the water, nor is she polluting it. Yes, she is pouring clean water down the sewer but I dont see that as a moral issue.

You do have a good point on whether she is on public or private sewer because the field will be floating if she is on septic.

How about Zebra mussels, in the sewer they would flourish and could be tracked back to you and also the cost for the clean up. Just a thought. Moving water from one source to another is just bad karma and can cause small ecological disasters. Could happen...

woodsmaneh! said:

How about Zebra mussels, in the sewer they would flourish and could be tracked back to you and also the cost for the clean up. Just a thought. Moving water from one source to another is just bad karma and can cause small ecological disasters. Could happen...

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And earlier in the thread people were talking about putting heat pollution into the lake...

No way to win...

Take a look around any power plant and see what pumping "Clean" water back into lakes does.

and yes woods karma is a bitch.

Last thing i will say on the sewer thing, It's ok to steal, just a little?

Bonzi Lighthouse said:

Take a look around any power plant and see what pumping "Clean" water back into lakes does.

and yes woods karma is a bitch.

Last thing i will say on the sewer thing, It's ok to steal, just a little?

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Do you always drive the speed limit?

I dont consider dumping extra water down the sewer stealing. If she was tapping into her neighbors water line that would be something different.

Sometimes ecological correctness can go too far. But hey, just my opinion.

Again, props on the septic tank question.

Not here to argue, we can take that some where else, I'm here to support Kitty.

But if your old enough I will leave you with this:

Bonzi Lighthouse said:

Not here to argue, we can take that some where else, I'm here to support Kitty.

But if your old enough I will leave you with this:

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Did you know that guy wasnt even an American Indian?

LOL yes 90