KingBrite complete COB kits on Alibaba

rayuki

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I got a reply regarding the citizen cobs they have advertised for $40USD. I asked for shipping to Australia here is the reply. I dont see how they can get away with advertising it that way. Pretty shady way to do business imo



unit price: 54.45usd/set (unassembled)
unit price: 64.45usd/set (assembled)



Include:
CLU048 1212 3000K / 3500K cob + thermal tape + 50-2204CT + glass lens KB-HB100-80.
heatsink Φ135*H70mm(for 55-65W)
HBG-60-1400
Pothook + Plug + waterproof connector + Screws


Shipping cost for 4 sets: 70usd by DHL. It takes about 7 days.
Paypal Charge 3.8%. (transfer charge 20usd by Bank Transfer)


1, Do you want unassembled or assembled?
2, About Cob, what color do you want?
3, Will you pay by paypal or bank transfer?
certainly gets a bit rich when you get postage added, but those units look pretty nice.

so if you break it down its still nearly $90USD each unit. if you build your own its obviously going to be cheaper. but still thats a ton cheaper then any of the already prebuilt cobs i've seen
 

Pistil Kid

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certainly gets a bit rich when you get postage added, but those units look pretty nice.

so if you break it down its still nearly $90USD each unit. if you build your own its obviously going to be cheaper. but still thats a ton cheaper then any of the already prebuilt cobs i've seen
Yes it is cheaper than most of the pre built cobs I have seen as well. I just don't like the way they advertise, if it is not $40 then why advertise it as such why not advertise it as $65 plus shipping that would be more honest. At the end of the day it gives growers another choice so that outweighs the negative for me.
 

VegasWinner

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Yes it is cheaper than most of the pre built cobs I have seen as well. I just don't like the way they advertise, if it is not $40 then why advertise it as such why not advertise it as $65 plus shipping that would be more honest. At the end of the day it gives growers another choice so that outweighs the negative for me.
you should let Jerry know how you feel. That is what changes things. I guess I am fortunate to fine honest business folks on Alibaba to make led flexible strips and pcb boards. I see plenty of folks advertising cob grow lights if that is what you are looking for, cheaper than US companies. Recession in China and Europe so now is a good time to negotiate good prices. My contacts contact me weekly for more production, but I am just a poor guy from a poor family.
peace
 

Pistil Kid

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you should let Jerry know how you feel. That is what changes things. I guess I am fortunate to fine honest business folks on Alibaba to make led flexible strips and pcb boards. I see plenty of folks advertising cob grow lights if that is what you are looking for, cheaper than US companies. Recession in China and Europe so now is a good time to negotiate good prices. My contacts contact me weekly for more production, but I am just a poor guy from a poor family.
peace
Thanks for the reply I appreciate your opinion I will look into sending Jerry a message. As for flexible strips and pcb boards do you have a link to any builds or threads they sound very interesting I am always looking for different options .. Do you mind post the link to you Alibaba contact please ? thanks again.
 

rayuki

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Yes it is cheaper than most of the pre built cobs I have seen as well. I just don't like the way they advertise, if it is not $40 then why advertise it as such why not advertise it as $65 plus shipping that would be more honest. At the end of the day it gives growers another choice so that outweighs the negative for me.
Yeah I agree, but it's China and alibaba, never in my life have I seen them actually advertise the correct price on anything and I've been dealing with online trading and Chinese market for over a decade lol.(handy tip, negotiating is key lol) I guess I'm just numb to it and automatically assume it will be higher then advertised. It's also getting that way with ebay and dodgy sellers putting cheaper items in a drop down box, and then it shows in searches as like $2 so it shows as lowest price but the actual item in a drop down box is $200 lol.
 

Pistil Kid

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Yeah I agree, but it's China and alibaba, never in my life have I seen them actually advertise the correct price on anything and I've been dealing with online trading and Chinese market for over a decade lol.(handy tip, negotiating is key lol) I guess I'm just numb to it and automatically assume it will be higher then advertised. It's also getting that way with ebay and dodgy sellers putting cheaper items in a drop down box, and then it shows in searches as like $2 so it shows as lowest price but the actual item in a drop down box is $200 lol.
Thanks for your advice I am new to the whole buying online game so I should have expected a bit of a learning curve .. lol ... cheers
 

SoOLED

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for people who don't want to deal optic 1 is a cool little light. order-hang-forget.

but, they are kind of late to the party, since I think most everyone is heading towards composing a mix of QB and COb's
 

Pistil Kid

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for people who don't want to deal optic 1 is a cool little light. order-hang-forget.

but, they are kind of late to the party, since I think most everyone is heading towards composing a mix of QB and COb's
At $175 they are too expensive for a single COB there are cheaper options out there I know that Timber grow lights do 2 Cree cxb3590 cobs in a frame for $269.
 

vertnugs

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Any body got opinions on the Autocob?Good bad.

Citizen clu048 1812 at 55 watts?

I don't see much about the clu048 1812 chips.
 

REALSTYLES

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Some of one guys just don't get it shipping from china isn't cheap. If you want lower shrpping well are you prepared to wait 30-45 days for your product. Come on ot's being shipped DHL by air. Have you ever overnight with the Post Office? It's way more expensive than you are complaining about and I'd use bank transfer if you are ordering more than $500 from my many dealings with Jerry

At $175 they are too expensive for a single COB there are cheaper options out there I know that Timber grow lights do 2 Cree cxb3590 cobs in a frame for $269.
and you're complaining about shipping from Jerry that's not a good deal Jerry sells CXB3590 for $31 do the math
 

CobKits

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for people who don't want to deal optic 1 is a cool little light. order-hang-forget.

but, they are kind of late to the party, since I think most everyone is heading towards composing a mix of QB and COb's
i wouldnt say that. i dont quite get the concept of mixing, both work fine on their own

Any body got opinions on the Autocob?Good bad.

Citizen clu048 1812 at 55 watts?

I don't see much about the clu048 1812 chips.
they are midway between the 1212 and 1818 in efficiency. i think once youre all in on a 50V setup with heatsinks and drivers saving $5 a chip on an 1812 vs an 1818 doesnt make much sense to lose 3-4% efficiency

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Pistil Kid

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Some of one guys just don't get it shipping from china isn't cheap. If you want lower shrpping well are you prepared to wait 30-45 days for your product. Come on ot's being shipped DHL by air. Have you ever overnight with the Post Office? It's way more expensive than you are complaining about and I'd use bank transfer if you are ordering more than $500 from my many dealings with Jerry

and you're complaining about shipping from Jerry that's not a good deal Jerry sells CXB3590 for $31 do the math
I am not complaining about the shipping what I am complaining about is advertising a product for $40 when the real cost was $55 - $65. I think you missed the point I was trying to make I expect shipping but I did not expect the product itself to be more than $40 If you show a photo of a product then that is what I expect the product to be at the price advertised. I don't think that is unreasonable, do you? Most people would agree the advertisement is misleading.
 
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REALSTYLES

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I am not complaining about the shipping what I am complaining about is advertising a product for $40 when the real cost was $55 - $65. I think you missed the point I was trying to make I expect shipping but I did not expect the product itself to be more than $40 If you show a photo of a product then that is what I expect the product to be at the price advertised. I don't think that is unreasonable, do you? Most people would agree the advertisement is misleading.
You obviously have no clue how ordering works on Alibaba. You know there's a link the says get latest price so how can it be false or misleading when you have to get the price by getting a quote? And have you bought ever anything from him?
 

Pistil Kid

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You obviously have no clue how ordering works on Alibaba. You know there's a link the says get latest price so how can it be false or misleading when you have to get the price by getting a quote? And have you bought ever anything from him?
You obviously feel you need to come to the defense of Jerry just because you have a purchase history with him. In your first post you claim I complained about shipping which I did not. Now you are trying to defend misleading advertising practice, as I said most people would say that it is misleading advertising because if you advertise a product for a price then that should be the price. Why advertise at $40 why not $55 or $65 what is actually $40 is it the heat sink and the cob or driver and the cob it is very confusing and to advertise with a picture of a complete COB setup is misleading. The quote option could be for shipping it does not necessarily imply quote on the price of the goods. I respect your knowledge and contribution to the community but you are wrong in this instance and most people would agree with me that this is misleading advertising. If that is what is to be expected on Alibaba then so be it but it does not change the fact that it is misleading. I think you will find there are a lot of sellers on Alibaba that advertise the correct price of their products.
 
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Growcob5

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Thanks for the break down.
It is public knowledge of course and I'm not giving you a hard time but when you put the prices after publicly like that I wish told Jerry got in trouble for the selling things a little cheap then he should have been so keep that in mind you don't want a good thing to go bad
 

REALSTYLES

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You obviously feel you need to come to the defense of Jerry just because you have a purchase history with him. In your first post you claim I complained about shipping which I did not. Now you are trying to defend misleading advertising practice, as I said most people would say that it is misleading advertising because if you advertise a product for a price then that should be the price. Why advertise at $40 why not $55 or $65 what is actually $40 is it the heat sink and the cob or driver and the cob it is very confusing and to advertise with a picture of a complete COB setup is misleading. The quote option could be for shipping it does not necessarily imply quote on the price of the goods. I respect your knowledge and contribution to the community but you are wrong in this instance and most people would agree with me that this is misleading advertising. If that is what is to be expected on Alibaba then so be it but it does not change the fact that it is misleading. I think you will find there are a lot of sellers on Alibaba that advertise the correct price of their products.
It's not that it's just that you have not and calling KingBrite for trying to fool people and he's not. I have another question for you. You said you were ok with the shipping cost right? What about the price he qouted you?
 

Pistil Kid

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It's not that it's just that you have not and calling KingBrite for trying to fool people and he's not. I have another question for you. You said you were ok with the shipping cost right? What about the price he qouted you?
I have no problem with the price quoted $55 - $65 it is cheaper than any other option I can find but that is not the point we are discussing, we are talking about misleading advertising. As I said why advertise at $40 why not the real price of $55 - $65?
 
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nc208

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Some of one guys just don't get it shipping from china isn't cheap. If you want lower shrpping well are you prepared to wait 30-45 days for your product. Come on ot's being shipped DHL by air. Have you ever overnight with the Post Office? It's way more expensive than you are complaining about and I'd use bank transfer if you are ordering more than $500 from my many dealings with Jerry

and you're complaining about shipping from Jerry that's not a good deal Jerry sells CXB3590 for $31 do the math
I did the math as you can see from my posts before. I showed you that RapidLED came out to 10$ price difference but came with "C" version instead of D, and a power supply to run them at 75w each not 50w for a comparative order. Perhaps you should look at the math and see whats really the better deal. I included all shipping and taxes in my Rapidled price, the quote for the kingbrite didn't include any taxes so that price will increase.
 
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