Cold$moke
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Same
Killer cloner!
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Canadain Closet Gardener
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Hey do you mind me asking where you purchased those collars?This is my little cloner. I use the wood to keep the sides from bowing, which makes it a little difficult to get the lid on and off. I wanted to use the small, 12-gallon HDX tote, but the squares on the lid are too small for 2" pucks. This one is eight gallons, and I usually keep about six gallons in it. Its light enough to carry back and forth, to the bathroom, to drain and fill.
Cheers
CCG
projectinfo
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Most hydro stores sell them. Also alot of hydro supply stores online.
If your in canada.
Bustan.ca
Amazon probably has them
Their just neoprene circles with two slices.
projectinfo
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Why do you have air stones in your cloner?
Canadain Closet Gardener
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Not looking for the neoprene circles looking for the white collars
The bubbler adds more oxygen to the water.
I have had good success 100% rooting since using this method.
I had the air pump already as I use it to make compost teas, so I'm using the same pump for my cloner
I'm also not worried about contamination from the air pump as I change the water, swap reservoirs ,clean the manifold and sprayers every 7 days.
Cheers
CCG
projectinfo
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It's like blowing bubbles under a sprinkler. Just seems excessive for the extra cleaning.Not looking for the neoprene circles looking for the white collars
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The bubbler adds more oxygen to the water.
I have had good success 100% rooting since using this method.
I had the air pump already as I use it to make compost teas, so I'm using the same pump for my cloner
I'm also not worried about contamination from the air pump as I change the water, swap reservoirs ,clean the manifold and sprayers every 7 days.
Cheers
CCG
And it's hard so see how that even helps.
Canadain Closet Gardener
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My sprayers are not running 100% of the time.
I would clean it the same way even without the bubbler. I find if you keep your tools, work area sanitary and clean it eliminates a majority of problems.
Cheers
CCG
projectinfo
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My sprayers are not running 100% of the time.
I would clean it the same way even without the bubbler. I find if you keep your tools, work area sanitary and clean it eliminates a majority of problems.
Cheers
CCG
Just for kicks, have you tried it without the bubbler to see if it makes a huge difference?
Canadain Closet Gardener
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Sorry I don't plan on doing that, you are more than welcome to do the testing.
This is kind of feeling like an LED/HPS discussion and I'm having to explain why I use LEDs.
It works for me and I'll leave it at that.
Cheers
CCG
projectinfo
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Done the testing. I'm running mine without An air stone.Sorry I don't plan on doing that, you are more than welcome to do the testing.
This is kind of feeling like an LED/HPS discussion and I'm having to explain why I use LEDs.
It works for me and I'll leave it at that.
Cheers
CCG
Figured I could save ya some pump noise and an extra step.
All good tho, if ya like the bubbles power to ya
Cold$moke
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I use air in mine to add fresh air as.mine gets so sealed it doesnt cirulate air well so i add a baby air pump to force new o2 into mine
Cold$moke
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This isnt a bad idea as air pumps blow in all the bad stuff as well as the good ...they are double edged
Cold$moke
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I do the same as i want fresh o2. Because my cloner is sealed up pretty tight .... if you close the lid too fast net cups fly outNot looking for the neoprene circles looking for the white collars
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The bubbler adds more oxygen to the water.
I have had good success 100% rooting since using this method.
I had the air pump already as I use it to make compost teas, so I'm using the same pump for my cloner
I'm also not worried about contamination from the air pump as I change the water, swap reservoirs ,clean the manifold and sprayers every 7 days.
Cheers
CCG
I wish i didnt throw away the little AIR VENTURI
Part that comes with the water pump.
I believe i could do without added air if i used it
If this pump ever dies ill use the venturi from the next one and lose the stones
projectinfo
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Fresh o2.
I'm going to look into finding some plastic mesh or something and glue it to the bottom of one of the holes. To let the hot stale air get out but also not let the spray out..
I'm going to look into finding some plastic mesh or something and glue it to the bottom of one of the holes. To let the hot stale air get out but also not let the spray out..
Hydrowannabe
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That’s what I heard from a lot of people,..that the aero cloners spray off the gel asap, but most say it doesn’t have much of an effect anyway. I think I’m going to buy these 15 gal durabuilt totes that I think I had once got from Walmart. They look just like hdx but the lid snaps much tighter, perfects size squares on top, and 15 gal is perfect size for a cloner imo.You bet!
You can get more sturdy totes that don't bow as much, and even mine wasn't all that much. With the lid on, it helps retain the tote's shape. But I used the wood because I wanted to be able to easily remove the lid, without shaking the hell out of the clones
Another option is to use a 5-gallon bucket. You can have multiple holes in the lid, for many clones. I've seen them up to 18, but I cant imagine there'd be much space between them.
And yes, I've always had great success with these simple bubble cloners. But I also always had great success with aerocloners as well. One of the things I always mention, when comparing bubble cloners against aero, is that I like to use RootTech cloning gel on my cuttings. If using an aerocloner, the sprayers quickly wash off the gel. With the bubbles, the gel stays on way longer, and has much more time to work.
Hydrowannabe
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Lmao Immight be even more lost than before. But anyway, I think I figured things out. Thanks for sure
Hydrowannabe
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For sure. You have some healthy looking ladies,
Hydrowannabe
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Awesome post! Thanks a lot for that thorough response. Extremely informative
JSB99
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I cut the little netpots in half too. Not sure how you'd get the roots out when transplanting
So, after reading everything you said above, I'll add the following...
"...or, you can just make a bubble cloner."