Kids and Marijuana

keller420

Active Member
I think that kids should not be encouraged or allowed, but just kinda look a blind eye too it for the most part. someone who is introduced to something like cannabis at a younger age (14) is less susceptible to turn eighteen and want to try everything and end up doing to large of amounts to much.
 

Sr. Verde

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I find that smoking herb shows you the truth in life. Also, when you begin to smoke weed seriously it consumes you (weather you admit it or not). I would want my kids to know what a sober life is like before they start smoking. If they still want to get high all day they can, it's their life. I just want them to know what the 'rest' of the worlds life is like.

tldr: I would want my kids to experience life without weed for a few good years before they start smoking. So I think 16-17 is a good age to begin experimenting.
 

poplars

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I find that smoking herb shows you the truth in life. Also, when you begin to smoke weed seriously it consumes you (weather you admit it or not). I would want my kids to know what a sober life is like before they start smoking. If they still want to get high all day they can, it's their life. I just want them to know what the 'rest' of the worlds life is like.

tldr: I would want my kids to experience life without weed for a few good years before they start smoking. So I think 16-17 is a good age to begin experimenting.
for me I don't feel like I started experiencing life till I was 19 . . . . .
 

xKuroiTaimax

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I've been consuming marijuana since I was about 13. My parents used to grow it and thought I had no idea what it was until i convinced them to get rid of it because I was worried about them getting busted. Although it means that my parents would kill me if they found out, I'm glad they stopped smoking, because I dislike smoking.

Hypocritical yes. I hate that weed made them paranoid and aggressive, to the point they nearly killed eachother in the most literal sense. They'd shut themselves away in the kitchen to smoke and I'd be left on my own or with my little brother. I hated that, and I suppose it's why I'm so resentful. I also hate people who ONLY smoke as a social thing. For me, smoking is for my personal enjoyment and I smoke tobacco in private only. It's sad when people only smoke for show or smoke more than they usually would just because a friend is. I'm very careful not to end up like my parents, though I'm okay to smoke the MJ in a group of a select few trusted individuals.
That's a quote from my intro. Partly because people have these preconceptions about young stoners I make a point of regulating my own smoking. I don't want to turn out exactly the way everyone 'expects' the child of growers to turn out. If I told my parents right now I smoke weed, they'd still murder me, because they got stuck into a heavy lifestyle and lost sight of their priorities with money, college, work MY BROTHER AND I etc...

So awkward watching (with my parents) that episode of Everybody Hates Chris where he's hiding marijuana from his parents, though.

Unlike alot of stoner parents however, I think mine are less liberal than most, so they raised me pretty strict. I can understand how they could question their own integrity though. I wonder, had they know I knew EXACTLY what they were growing, would they have had The Talk with me, or been prepared to give me 'Do as I say, not what drugs I do'? Without sounding pig-headed, I do think I'm a minority when it comes to people my age making sensible decisions about drugs. I don't do it just to be rebellious, and I choose to impose rules on myself.

When I'm a parent, I'd encourage my kid to tell me if they were ever curious about such things, and if it's nothing major, allow them to try it under supervision. (of course, that's depend on their maturity as well as their age) I'd much rather that than have them hide it from me then get a phone call they're overdosed or made themselves sick or something. Or, as aforementioned, have them wait until they are 18 and go completely off the rails. To be honest, having such a strict upbringing did make feel like I was 'entitled' to go smoke as much as I bloody well like and stay out late. Nah, I think honesty is important in every aspect of a child-parent relationship.
 

ricky ronatello

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kinda think the govt. doesnt allow because it makes u lazy and possible turn u into a skitzo... i def. had skitzo smokes before where i start sketchin out about everything and nothing..w3rd
 

gogrow

confused
well..then its cuz of skitzo's..which does happen in people..specially the smart ones

I love when people cite this little "fact"..... psychologists dont even understand schizophrenia, where it comes from, what causes it, or even really what defines it..... but you KNOW that pot causes it?? Whats your credentials there doc?
 

RC7

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Eh in my opinion theres too many sides to choose from in this discussion because the details are discussed so vaguely... what im trying to say is all people are different and have completely different mind states. Some people who choose to smoke are dumb, some are smart, some are clueless, and some may just not care in general... personally before i ever tried pot i educated myself on it to understand the real facts about it, unlike most who just smoke it before they know about it, as well as other drugs. What im trying to say is every child has their own thoughts and understanding about drugs whatever that may be. AGE can't really determine maturity level and reasoning for a childs actions or thoughts, to me it's about what the child has been through and what he/she has been taught or learned. I was almost completely mentally mature by 12 because of a very messed up childhood so i was always forced to do everything for myself and decided to learn the truth about things like pot.
 

sk'mo

Active Member
I love when people cite this little "fact"..... psychologists dont even understand schizophrenia, where it comes from, what causes it, or even really what defines it..... but you KNOW that pot causes it?? Whats your credentials there doc?
THC has been shown to trigger psychosis in people with a genetic predisposition to schizophrenia. This doesn't mean reefer causes schizophrenia, just that it can trigger the psychosis associated with it, especially in youth. Conversely, Cannabidiol (CBD), which has almost been bred out of Cannabis, has the opposite effect (Breeders take note.). There is an episode of The Nature of Things, called The Downside of High on it. There is clinical research supporting this.

On Marijuana and IQ :

Current and former marijuana use: preliminary findings of a longitudinal study of effects on IQ in young adults]

Results: Current marijuana use was significantly correlated (p < 0.05) in a dose- related fashion with a decline in IQ over the ages studied. The comparison of the IQ difference scores showed an average decrease of 4.1 points in current heavy users (p < 0.05) compared to gains in IQ points for light current users (5.8 ), former users (3.5) and non-users (2.6).
Interpretation: Current marijuana use had a negative effect on global IQ score only in subjects who smoked 5 or more joints per week. A negative effect was not observed among subjects who had previously been heavy users but were no longer using the substance. We conclude that marijuana does not have a long-term negative impact on global intelligence. Whether the absence of a residual marijuana effect would also be evident in more specific cognitive domains such as memory and attention remains to be ascertained.
IMO, If there is a history of schizophrenia in the family, I would say the minimum age allowed ought to be 18-19, and talk to a doctor. Other than that I wouldn't tolerate it under 16, and even then, grades need to be kept. That said, I don't actually have kids.
 

poonjoon

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THC has been shown to trigger psychosis in people with a genetic predisposition to schizophrenia. This doesn't mean reefer causes schizophrenia, just that it can trigger the psychosis associated with it, especially in youth. Conversely, Cannabidiol (CBD), which has almost been bred out of Cannabis, has the opposite effect (Breeders take note.). There is an episode of The Nature of Things, called The Downside of High on it. There is clinical research supporting this.

On Marijuana and IQ :

Current and former marijuana use: preliminary findings of a longitudinal study of effects on IQ in young adults]

IMO, If there is a history of schizophrenia in the family, I would say the minimum age allowed ought to be 18-19, and talk to a doctor. Other than that I wouldn't tolerate it under 16, and even then, grades need to be kept. That said, I don't actually have kids.
+rep

i remember doing research on a bunch of the "studies" on marijuana...i liked the whole "long term marijuana usage can lead to psychosis" thing...especially after reading about their test subjects lol
 

Chomps

Active Member
I've got a little brother that's about to turn 18. I'm sure we both 'know' each other smoke, but never talked about it. I wanted to hook him up with a few fat joints of my crop (WW, SLH, ak48, ice) and talk about it. Doing the math tho my grow won't be ready so I was thinking of just picking up some fire, talking about it, and show him my op.

I'm hesitant tho because hey kids talk. Maybe not intentional but let's say one night he's partying and gets a little loose and somebody starts talking about weed. Or shit, he meets somebody and wants to look 'cool'. I don't know he's still a kid.

I think tho the benefits of being open about it and getting some bond action outweighs any negative possibilities. I guess I'll just have to make sure to stress confidentiality in the talk.
 

nj10ii

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I tell my kids the truth whenever it comes up, its medicine in some states and I think it should be legal. Its safer than alcohol or tobacco, and I don't condone any drugs for kids.
Its why there is a drinking age.
but, they also know on the other hand I'm not going to disown them if they do. I've already taken weed away from my 15yr old. I asked him to reconsider and wait till he's older.
I live in reality and know (much like I did) that its there and they'll do it, drinking and smoking. I'm just not going to enable it or condone it for kids.

Responsible adult usage, says it all.
 

budsmoker87

New Member
i think it's funny how people are so culturally conditioned to even think there should be an age limit on cannabis...is this because tobacco/alcohol have age restrictions placed on them, so we think within the same context in reference to weed?

either we live in a free society or we don't. this is black and white

i wonder what a tribal culture, like an aboriginee or a south american shaman would say about age-restrictions being placed on cannabis or any psychoactive compound.

there should be no age requirement to take a drug that's merely a catalyst for spiritual and personally growth...i've never known someone who started using cannabis (and only cannabis) at an early age, whom "didn't properly develop" into an intelligent, thoughtful adult WITH A MIND OF HIS/HER OWN <----this is key
 

sk'mo

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i think it's funny how people are so culturally conditioned to even think there should be an age limit on cannabis...is this because tobacco/alcohol have age restrictions placed on them, so we think within the same context in reference to weed?

either we live in a free society or we don't. this is black and white

i wonder what a tribal culture, like an aboriginee or a south american shaman would say about age-restrictions being placed on cannabis or any psychoactive compound.

there should be no age requirement to take a drug that's merely a catalyst for spiritual and personally growth...i've never known someone who started using cannabis (and only cannabis) at an early age, whom "didn't properly develop" into an intelligent, thoughtful adult WITH A MIND OF HIS/HER OWN <----this is key
The reason for age restrictions is so that parents can decide for themselves whether or not their children can imbibe a given substance. Even then, there does come a point where giving a child drugs becomes abuse.

Minors tend to have poor decision making skills due to their lack of life experience.
 

poplars

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yeah I think it'd be beneficial to the kid to wait till they're an adult with established coping skills...

not like its gonna kill em to start early but you could get some fucked up coping skills that could cause deeper problems...
 

missnu

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My 9 year old god love him came home from school one day asking about marijuana...said they had a DARE guy come in and talk to them, and that he didn't think it was right, because marijuana was just a plant right? Since all the other drugs don't just grow..why is marijuana a drug---so on and so forth...he doesn't know I grow, although he will ask about the odd smell in my room when he gets home from school---since I am then getting ready for work---which means getting high enough to not mind going...lol...I am hoping it will be legal when I need to talk to him about it...all I know is to not really let the kids know what you are growing until you think they are old enough to not tell their friends and such...we have talked about other drugs including cigarettes and alcohol, but we just left marijuana out of the discussion...So then I gave him the "we will discuss it at length once you are older talk" and that if ever he came across some marijuana he should leave it alone, and that when he is old enough to think about it we'll get through it together...
 
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