Kate's law

MichiganMedGrower

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There were Germans who were neutral about murdering jews.

Your bit about "everybody isn't included in a survey so it is useless" is also telling

Sorry, but you aren't interesting.

You are quite ignorant bringing up murdered Jews to me. Especially assuming I am nuetral about it.

Neutral is your word not mine. Not about that. And not about the subjects at hand.

And I am so dissapointed I don’t interest you.
 

Fogdog

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You are quite ignorant bringing up murdered Jews to me. Especially assuming I am nuetral about it.

Neutral is your word not mine. Not about that. And not about the subjects at hand.

And I am so dissapointed I don’t interest you.
You said you weren't picking a side, so you are neutral about Democrats, Trump and right wing Republicans. No need to deny it.

The reference to apathy in Germany regarding the murder of Jews is apropos. In the US, your apathy is common among white people who don't see mistreatment of black and Hispanic people as an issue. Given the health issues, financial disparity, daily racist actions that black and brown people experience and our right wing Republicans completely endorse, you say you are neutral. To be neutral about issues of racial injustice and the nascent white supremacist movement not to mention the white supremacist Trump is not new. Disgusting but not new. Also not as bad as raging racist, so there is that.
 

UncleBuck

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fake news accounts;

Jose Ines Garcia Zarate, a Mexican national who was previously deported from the US five times and served in a federal prison. e held.

1)he was aiming at a seal.(so firing the gun was NO accident after all)
2) He told police that he stepped on the gun, causing it to fire.
or 3) He said it was wrapped in cloth, and when Garcia Zarate unwrapped it, the gun accidentally discharged.

Prosecutors said Garcia Zarate immediately tried to cover his tracks by throwing the gun into the San Francisco Bay, then fleeing the scene.
Garcia Zarate was formerly known as Juan Francisco Lopez-Sanchez, one of several aliases he is known to have used.

This summer, the House of Representatives passed H.R. 3004, dubbed "Kate's Law" -- a measure named for Steinle. The legislation would increase maximum prison penalties for immigrants caught repeatedly entering the US illegally.



While it is unknown what Garcia Zarate’s criminal record is in Mexico, we do know that he’s been struck with a criminal record in the United States.
1)He had seven felony convictions,
2)and was deported five times!
3)In 1991, he was convicted of drug charges in Arizona.
4)In 1993, he was convicted three times in Washington state for heroin possession and manufacturing narcotics.
5)This was followed by another narcotics conviction and his first deportation from Oregon in 1994.
6)Two years later, Garcia Zarate faced yet another drug conviction and his second deportation in Washington state.
7)In February 1998, he was caught illegally crossing the border in Arizona,
8)and six days later trying again to make it across the border! This time, he was arrested for the illegal crossing, spent time in prison, and was sent back to Mexico in 2003.
9)In 2009, Garcia Zarate was caught trying to cross the border again, this time in Texas, and was again deported

I've never met a more innocent 5x illegal immigrant drug dealer/ manufacturer felon in my life!
NOT GUILTY
 

UncleBuck

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yeeha for the immigrant, 5x convicted felon while in the commission of yet another felony while being here illegally his last time caused the death of an American woman with a stolen firearm ?

do you really really believe this case and outcome fit each other, really ?

"U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement announced late Thursday: "Following the conclusion of this case, ICE will work to take custody of Mr. Garcia Zarate and ultimately remove him from the country."

ICE Deputy Director Tom Homan added, "San Francisco's policy of refusing to honor ICE detainers is a blatant threat to public safety and undermines the rule of law. This tragedy could have been prevented if San Francisco had turned the alien over to ICE, as we requested, instead of releasing him back onto the streets."

In a response to the verdict, Attorney General Jeff Sessions released a statement saying that despite California's attempt at a murder conviction, Zarate was able to walk away with only a firearm possession conviction because he was not turned over by San Francisco to ICE.

"When jurisdictions choose to return criminal aliens to the streets rather than turning them over to federal immigration authorities, they put the public's safety at risk," the statement said. "San Francisco's decision to protect criminal aliens led to the preventable and heartbreaking death of Kate Steinle."
waaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 

MichiganMedGrower

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You said you weren't picking a side, so you are neutral about Democrats, Trump and right wing Republicans. No need to deny it.

The reference to apathy in Germany regarding the murder of Jews is apropos. In the US, your apathy is common among white people who don't see mistreatment of black and Hispanic people as an issue. Given the health issues, financial disparity, daily racist actions that black and brown people experience and our right wing Republicans completely endorse, you say you are neutral. To be neutral about issues of racial injustice and the nascent white supremacist movement not to mention the white supremacist Trump is not new. Disgusting but not new. Also not as bad as raging racist, so there is that.

Like I said to you too many times I never said I was nuetral. You did.

I said there was bad on both sides.

And I said basically what you ended with here. It’s not new.

The rest is your opinion and has nothing at all to do with the kind of person I am. I’m not even from the demographic you keep saying.

Now you don’t interest me.
 

Fogdog

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Like I said to you too many times I never said I was nuetral. You did.

I said there was bad on both sides.

And I said basically what you ended with here. It’s not new.

The rest is your opinion and has nothing at all to do with the kind of person I am. I’m not even from the demographic you keep saying.

Now you don’t interest me.
Too funny

Vanilla man says he's not picking a side but says he's not neutral

Then he equates the two sides because "bad people on both sides". Can you tell me what "bad people" you are talking about who are Democrats that compare in any way to the voter suppression going on in red states? How about the expansion of ICE agents and their movement into cities that are nowhere near the borders? How about the man who most likely will accumulate the majority of votes in Alabama and become a senator?

Your indifference to what is happening now is only possible for a white man. A Hispanic family who is about to have a father or mother deported doesn't think "bad on both sides" is an excuse for indifference. Don't tell my you can't imagine what black people are thinking when the president singles out black football stars for vilification because they are exercising their right to protest police brutality on their own?

Democrats aren't the same as Republicans. To say something like "there is bad on both sides" is either outright covering up the shitty acts of the racist right or naive.

My opinion on you is irrelevant. What is relevant is what you said. I'm only pointing out that you are safe and able to claim you don't support either side because you aren't affected by the shit that's going down. There are very bad men in the white supremacist movement. Indifference like yours is part of the problem.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Too funny

Vanilla man says he's not picking a side but says he's not neutral

Then he equates the two sides because "bad people on both sides". Can you tell me what "bad people" you are talking about who are Democrats that compare in any way to the voter suppression going on in red states? How about the expansion of ICE agents and their movement into cities that are nowhere near the borders? How about the man who most likely will accumulate the majority of votes in Alabama and become a senator?

Your indifference to what is happening now is only possible for a white man. A Hispanic family who is about to have a father or mother deported doesn't think "bad on both sides" is an excuse for indifference. Don't tell my you can't imagine what black people are thinking when the president singles out black football stars for vilification because they are exercising their right to protest police brutality on their own?

Democrats aren't the same as Republicans. To say something like "there is bad on both sides" is either outright covering up the shitty acts of the racist right or naive.

My opinion on you is irrelevant. What is relevant is what you said. I'm only pointing out that you are safe and able to claim you don't support either side because you aren't affected by the shit that's going down. There are very bad men in the white supremacist movement. Indifference like yours is part of the problem.

What I said here is guided by your fanatical misdirection. I am not indifferent just because I won’t take your side.

Or engage in your incessant bitching about it all.

What are you doing about the issues that bother you other than telling me?

I am already aware. Your not more informed or more involved just because you won’t shut up about it.
 

Fogdog

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What I said here is guided by your fanatical misdirection. I am not indifferent just because I won’t take your side.

Or engage in your incessant bitching about it all.

What are you doing about the issues that bother you other than telling me?

I am already aware. Your not more informed or more involved just because you won’t shut up about it.
LOL. You just can't admit that you are part of the problem. This is common among fragile white men who don't want to accept that they benefit from the status given them for winning a genetic lottery.

You say you are a "not taking sides". I'm saying that's only because you are an entitled white man. If you faced anything like what Trump's white supremacist government is doing, you wouldn't be so blase.
 

dagwood45431

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LOL. You just can't admit that you are part of the problem. This is common among fragile white men who don't want to accept that they benefit from the status given them for winning a genetic lottery.

You say you are a "not taking sides". I'm saying that's only because you are an entitled white man. If you faced anything like what Trump's white supremacist government is doing, you wouldn't be so blase.
White privilege blinds. It's the nature of privilege.
 

UncleBuck

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pretty obvious why the neo-nazi OP started this thread.

other neo-nazis are exploiting this issue as well.

this is neo-nazi richard spencer at the white house exploiting this issue too.




probably just coincidence that this issue resonates so much with literal nazis though, right two-pump?
 

twostrokenut

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pretty obvious why the neo-nazi OP started this thread.

other neo-nazis are exploiting this issue as well.

this is neo-nazi richard spencer at the white house exploiting this issue too.




probably just coincidence that this issue resonates so much with literal nazis though, right two-pump?
why do you only get 3 strikes and Jose gets 6?
 
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