K1Ng5p4d3's Cardboard Box Grow (hehe)
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K1Ng5p4d3
Junior Creatologist
thanks TC, n hope your trip was all good!!
Gyps, i checked out the update, and your shit is sick!! super micro,but super fuckin dank too man!! mad props
I also left a fuckin novel on there, cuz its the perpetual grow community, lol, and i need some feedback on what im attempting. I think ill be able to pull off pretty consistent results using the equipment i have, but i need feedback, since ive done all this shoppping and made all thhese choices without conferring with my colleagues, lol. Anything you guys can hook me up with advicewise, as always i really would appreciate it. Get back to me, and lemme know if theres anything i can do to make the shit better.
BTW, as far as filters n fans go, im using my old filter for the moms in the old tent, but for the new room, i bought a hydrofarm filter (4ft) (6"), along with a 520cfm valuline blower. ill be scrubbing the air through the filter, and then out the other side of the fan will be a little ducting, and then a Y splitter, followed by more ducting, and straight through both 1000w lights. so that way once again i can scrub my air and cool my lights with the same fan, which saved me about 200 bucks, lol. I forgot to add that into my setup explanation in the post i left.
Anyways, hit me back n lemme know whats up. Im puttin my son down for a nap now, but ill be back in a lil bit to check up. N thanks for stickin around everyone, i really appreciate that shit, especially since i havent been around steady for such a long fuckin time. Cable guy came the other day n i got everything sorted out now, so all i need to do is figure out how to transfer my pics from my iphone onto the pc,and ill have some widow shots for you guys to enjoy 
thanks again everyone for everything,
-K1.
Gyps, i checked out the update, and your shit is sick!! super micro,but super fuckin dank too man!! mad props
I also left a fuckin novel on there, cuz its the perpetual grow community, lol, and i need some feedback on what im attempting. I think ill be able to pull off pretty consistent results using the equipment i have, but i need feedback, since ive done all this shoppping and made all thhese choices without conferring with my colleagues, lol. Anything you guys can hook me up with advicewise, as always i really would appreciate it. Get back to me, and lemme know if theres anything i can do to make the shit better.
BTW, as far as filters n fans go, im using my old filter for the moms in the old tent, but for the new room, i bought a hydrofarm filter (4ft) (6"), along with a 520cfm valuline blower. ill be scrubbing the air through the filter, and then out the other side of the fan will be a little ducting, and then a Y splitter, followed by more ducting, and straight through both 1000w lights. so that way once again i can scrub my air and cool my lights with the same fan, which saved me about 200 bucks, lol. I forgot to add that into my setup explanation in the post i left.
Anyways, hit me back n lemme know whats up. Im puttin my son down for a nap now, but ill be back in a lil bit to check up. N thanks for stickin around everyone, i really appreciate that shit, especially since i havent been around steady for such a long fuckin time. Cable guy came the other day n i got everything sorted out now, so all i need to do is figure out how to transfer my pics from my iphone onto the pc,and ill have some widow shots for you guys to enjoy
thanks again everyone for everything,
-K1.
Thundercat
Well-Known Member
Whats Up King!!! Nice to see you back bro!
Glad to hear your figurin out all the little details for sure. Seems like its gonna be pretty bad ass man! I just got my new 400w mh hooked up last night, and the kids are LOVING IT. I posted a bunch of pics yesterday. I think I'll be cloning by sunday. I'm not gonna end up having buds by 420 I don't think, but it won't be too long after, and then my mothers are gonna go into flower on april 1st. This should give them all enough time to finish by the beginning to middle of July, cus we are gonna try to my aug 1st. Its gonna be hectic. I can't wait to see these plants when I get home form work, after a full day under the MH. I think its gonna be cool. Any way I'll catch ya latta man.
TC
Glad to hear your figurin out all the little details for sure. Seems like its gonna be pretty bad ass man! I just got my new 400w mh hooked up last night, and the kids are LOVING IT. I posted a bunch of pics yesterday. I think I'll be cloning by sunday. I'm not gonna end up having buds by 420 I don't think, but it won't be too long after, and then my mothers are gonna go into flower on april 1st. This should give them all enough time to finish by the beginning to middle of July, cus we are gonna try to my aug 1st. Its gonna be hectic. I can't wait to see these plants when I get home form work, after a full day under the MH. I think its gonna be cool. Any way I'll catch ya latta man.
TC
K1Ng5p4d3
Junior Creatologist
sounds good man, eeven though it sucks that your nugs wont be ready by 420, theyll at least be ready in that general timeframe, which is perfect for you know where. man, its gonna be one crazy fuckin summer man, ill tell you that much for sure!!
-so yeah, right now im trying to think about all of this shit. I just found out that its not a 100% dry basement, so im going to have to do something about that for when it rains really bad around here. Im thinkin that as long as i tarp up the floor, and make sure that i caulk the cracks in the walls up as much as possible, n then throw a nice big fuckin dehumidifier down there, then i should be ok -- n wouldnt ya know it? theres a fuckin HUGE dehumidifier that was in the workshop in the garage when i rented the house!! i gotta remember to thank the landlord for savin me a couple hundo, lol. So now im thinking about getting one of those 500 cfm small fans from htg for 40 bucks, and replace the fan thats in my tent that ill be using for the mothers, so i can use THAT fan for the main room. This way i can have a seperate fan scrubbing air, and then another fan for cooling off the Agros. Im sure itd be a good idea, considering that the basement really sucks as far as holding indoor temps, lol. Right now its like 40 degrees down there, so im assuming that once summer hits that temps are gonna hit upper 90's easily with the lights down there, maybe even over 100. But fuck it, im sure ill handle that speed bump once i run it over man. I just wanna get the first couple runs out of the way, so i can get the feeel for things.
So i taped off the floor in the basement today, to basically figure out where im gonna put everything. Im only using half the basement for the op, and the wife wants to use the other half for a washer/dryer setup, which we dont have. YET, lol. So the dimensions are 10x10, with rafters everywhere that are PERFECT for hanging light mounts and fan mounts, n then ill worry about wrapping the hoods in IR block, or something along those lines to hide the heat signature, but theres no way in hell i woulda been able to afford to panda film/mylar the whole basement, so i picked up tarping that was meant for an outdoor canopy. Its four 10x8 sheets of white tarping, that all have a zipper in the middle, so im thinking about completely enclosing the area, so all i have to do is unzip it to get in. once i have everything tarped up, im gonna do the floor too with vinyl painters tarping, and then ill set up the lighting. 1 1000w light for each 5x10 area, which should do perfectly, since i wont even be using the whole 5x5 space in each section, since im only going to do 10-12 plants per cloning run. The very first run of clones is going to be a mix of all of the plants, because then ill be able to start alot sooner, just topping the plants once which will give me 5 clones, and then topping them again a week later, which would give me another 10 clones. That will be enough for me to get everything going, and then ill be able to wait the 2 1/2 - 3 wks between runs to do a proper clone run each time of an individual strain. Im just using my ORIGINAL setup for the clones, just the two 4' plant n aquarium bulbs, along with my 8 100w equivalent CFLs should cut the mustard n be enough to help the clones take root.
Once each clone takes root over the two wk period (im gonna turn my old GH waterfarm into a cloner, since i wont be keeping the clones in there for long, it should be big enough to clone up 10 cramped ass clones at least, lol -- im gonna plug up the bottom of the bucket, and turn it into a DWC cloner bucket instead of the shitty drip bucket that it is), then ill be switching off from hydro to soil-ish mix. one part pro mix, two parts perlite, one part vermiculite, and 1/8 part cottonseed meal, all mixed up in a giant 70 gallon rubbermaid bin, and disbursed amongst my 3 gallon growbags. Using such a soil-light mix should give me enough of an edge to where ill be able to get similar results to a hydro set up, even though its still very much NOT hydro. BUT im pretty sure that by using so much perlite Vs promix, that ill be able to get pretty reliably consistent results, at least in theory, lol.
So everything is an 8 wk strain, The final mother descision was The Church, Sputnik #1, Dj Short BlueBerry, Yumboldt 47, and sour p. I also decided to plant another Whiteberry mother, since i loved it so much last run, i really wanna keep it around. Its a 6-7 wk strain, and should be very rewarding to grow her perpetually. Anyways, time for Jacobs bedtime, so ill holler at you guys in a little bit to finish this though out. I know, not only am i back, but im still typing fuckin a thesis everytime i post, lol. I cant help it man, i got a shitload to talk about and its all cropped up in my head from 3 wks of not being able to talk about a god damn thing. Anyways, ill holler
-so yeah, right now im trying to think about all of this shit. I just found out that its not a 100% dry basement, so im going to have to do something about that for when it rains really bad around here. Im thinkin that as long as i tarp up the floor, and make sure that i caulk the cracks in the walls up as much as possible, n then throw a nice big fuckin dehumidifier down there, then i should be ok -- n wouldnt ya know it? theres a fuckin HUGE dehumidifier that was in the workshop in the garage when i rented the house!! i gotta remember to thank the landlord for savin me a couple hundo, lol. So now im thinking about getting one of those 500 cfm small fans from htg for 40 bucks, and replace the fan thats in my tent that ill be using for the mothers, so i can use THAT fan for the main room. This way i can have a seperate fan scrubbing air, and then another fan for cooling off the Agros. Im sure itd be a good idea, considering that the basement really sucks as far as holding indoor temps, lol. Right now its like 40 degrees down there, so im assuming that once summer hits that temps are gonna hit upper 90's easily with the lights down there, maybe even over 100. But fuck it, im sure ill handle that speed bump once i run it over man. I just wanna get the first couple runs out of the way, so i can get the feeel for things.
So i taped off the floor in the basement today, to basically figure out where im gonna put everything. Im only using half the basement for the op, and the wife wants to use the other half for a washer/dryer setup, which we dont have. YET, lol. So the dimensions are 10x10, with rafters everywhere that are PERFECT for hanging light mounts and fan mounts, n then ill worry about wrapping the hoods in IR block, or something along those lines to hide the heat signature, but theres no way in hell i woulda been able to afford to panda film/mylar the whole basement, so i picked up tarping that was meant for an outdoor canopy. Its four 10x8 sheets of white tarping, that all have a zipper in the middle, so im thinking about completely enclosing the area, so all i have to do is unzip it to get in. once i have everything tarped up, im gonna do the floor too with vinyl painters tarping, and then ill set up the lighting. 1 1000w light for each 5x10 area, which should do perfectly, since i wont even be using the whole 5x5 space in each section, since im only going to do 10-12 plants per cloning run. The very first run of clones is going to be a mix of all of the plants, because then ill be able to start alot sooner, just topping the plants once which will give me 5 clones, and then topping them again a week later, which would give me another 10 clones. That will be enough for me to get everything going, and then ill be able to wait the 2 1/2 - 3 wks between runs to do a proper clone run each time of an individual strain. Im just using my ORIGINAL setup for the clones, just the two 4' plant n aquarium bulbs, along with my 8 100w equivalent CFLs should cut the mustard n be enough to help the clones take root.
Once each clone takes root over the two wk period (im gonna turn my old GH waterfarm into a cloner, since i wont be keeping the clones in there for long, it should be big enough to clone up 10 cramped ass clones at least, lol -- im gonna plug up the bottom of the bucket, and turn it into a DWC cloner bucket instead of the shitty drip bucket that it is), then ill be switching off from hydro to soil-ish mix. one part pro mix, two parts perlite, one part vermiculite, and 1/8 part cottonseed meal, all mixed up in a giant 70 gallon rubbermaid bin, and disbursed amongst my 3 gallon growbags. Using such a soil-light mix should give me enough of an edge to where ill be able to get similar results to a hydro set up, even though its still very much NOT hydro. BUT im pretty sure that by using so much perlite Vs promix, that ill be able to get pretty reliably consistent results, at least in theory, lol.
So everything is an 8 wk strain, The final mother descision was The Church, Sputnik #1, Dj Short BlueBerry, Yumboldt 47, and sour p. I also decided to plant another Whiteberry mother, since i loved it so much last run, i really wanna keep it around. Its a 6-7 wk strain, and should be very rewarding to grow her perpetually. Anyways, time for Jacobs bedtime, so ill holler at you guys in a little bit to finish this though out. I know, not only am i back, but im still typing fuckin a thesis everytime i post, lol. I cant help it man, i got a shitload to talk about and its all cropped up in my head from 3 wks of not being able to talk about a god damn thing. Anyways, ill holler
420weedman
Well-Known Member
make sure you do a good job sealing the ceiling ... i think that might be my prob, also i need a bigger carbon filter i guess ...
Thundercat
Well-Known Member
SOunds like a hell of a plan man. One thing I might suggest is if the floor of the basement gets damp, or wet, not just tarping it, but maybe we could build like a 3-4 inch riser to get everything off the floor. Basically make a false floor for the grow area. That could give you something to affix the tarp walls to as well. Staple it right to the floor, keep the walls pulled nice and tight for good reflection. Then put the floor tarp over that so if you spill water, or dirt or anyhting it wouldbe really easy to clean up! Just a thought, but it would be pretty simple to make, for your size area, you could make one with just 2 pieces of plywood and some 2x4s which would be 8x8 so you would have room around the edges for more floor space, or you could make one that was 10x10 you'd only really need 1 more piece of wood(one 2x2 corner would be missing, but I'm sure I could find you a 2x2 piece of plywood if you couldn't find one.)
It also sounds like a great lineup of strains. I can't wait to see that DJ short.
I still need to tackle the air filtration thing. I'm gonna build a DIY and see how it works, if I have to I'll buy one, we'll see.
It also sounds like a great lineup of strains. I can't wait to see that DJ short.
I still need to tackle the air filtration thing. I'm gonna build a DIY and see how it works, if I have to I'll buy one, we'll see.
GypsyBush
Well-Known Member
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GypsyBush
Well-Known Member
I like the idea of raising the floor a few inches...
I do not like the idea of plastic over any floor...
Water WILL find it's way past the plastic and just collect under it with nowhere to go.. creating a nightmare of mold ... trust me...
Wet plywood that can dry is better than damp wood that cannot... I've seen it.. it gets ugly in no time...
Just a thought....
I do not like the idea of plastic over any floor...
Water WILL find it's way past the plastic and just collect under it with nowhere to go.. creating a nightmare of mold ... trust me...
Wet plywood that can dry is better than damp wood that cannot... I've seen it.. it gets ugly in no time...
Just a thought....
DKskater75
Well-Known Member
I built plywood tables then wrapped them in plastic... just an idea haha
GypsyBush
Well-Known Member
Here is another idea that can vary in size according to the totes used....
GROWFAQ all the way...
GrowFAQ said:How do I make an ebb & flow
hydroponic system?
The goal: To demonstrate the construction of an Ebb & Flow hydroponic system.
The system being constructed is small, however the design is the same as larger systems.
Parts list...
- Restaurant bus tub, 15 1/2" x 20 1/2" x 4 1/2", flood tray.
- Restaurant bus tub, 15 1/2" x 20 1/2" x 7", reservoir.
- Reservoir lid, 15 3/4" x 22".
- Overflow fitting.
- Fill/drain fitting.
- Water pump, 70 gph.
- Tubing, 1/2" ID.
- Aquarium air pump.
- Air stones.
- Green air line.
Notice, in the pictures above, the one inch holes, in the flood tray for the overflow, and fill/drain fittings, also, the two inch holes in the lid, for the fittings to pass through.
A view of the plumbed flood tray with lid. See how it fits over the fittings.
This is a view of the reservoir with lid, and plumbed flood tray.
Here, it's all assembled. The water and air pumps are not shown. The power cord, and air lines fit between, the reservoir and lid. A small notch may need to be added, to avoid pinching the air lines, and to help the flood tray sit level.
Assembled with six 5 1/2" square pots. Notice the easy access to both fittings. The fill/drain fitting has a connector for a 1/2" hose, under the screen. Remove the screen, connect the hose, turn the pump on, and pump out the nutrient solution. Makes reservoir change outs very easy.
Another view of the system.
Note: Choosing a container...
Not all containers are made equal. Some are very sturdy, while others are not. Using a weak container will only lead to failure and a flood. Choose heavy duty containers. Also, some containers will need a center support to keep them level under the weight of the nutrient solution.
Note: About sizes...
The reservoir should be large enough, to hold two, to three times the volume of the flood tray or table. The pump should be sized to flood the tray in 5 min. or less.
DKskater75
Well-Known Member
Yeah thats pretty much what i did haha, very nicely detailed though that would have helped lol
Thundercat
Well-Known Member
Thats pretty cool. I could dig something small like that to keep like 4 mothers alive.
K1Ng5p4d3
Junior Creatologist
Yeah I read that too when I was lookin into making my own man, but the problem is that the size tote I need only cmes in clear, and it's very very flimsy. It's one of those under the bed storage totes. The size is right - at about 2 1/2 x 4 , but not even close to sturdy enough, and even though the clear part is an easy remedy, I'd still need to figure out a simple way to raise the pots off the bottom of the table, so they don't get over watered due to the odd chance of lack of draineage. No matter what I'm going to do ebb n flow, I just wanna be clear with that. I just need to wait a harvest in order to go perpetual with it. I'll set up my one table, and do a grow in there, but I'm pretty much dead set on wanting to get the 4x4 abs moulded plastic flood tables so I won't need to replace them for a couple years.
I WILL however be using the raised floor idea though. That's a Fuckin awesme idea, n I'll be getting onto that tomorrow. I really appreciate the hell outta that idea man. I'll be pickin up the plywood tomorrow n putting that shit into full effect. Other than that though, I'm gonna bust the big ass dehumidifier down there to counter balance humidity, and I'll be hookin up the filter tomorrow too after I give it a bath. Carbon filters that big need to be soaked for an hour before use, otherwise you run the risk of black lung effect, inhaling all kinds of loose charcoal fumes ain't good for the body. So I'll hook all the hardware up, and then do the floor, and then tarp that shit up.
LOL gypsy, I feel like I let ya down or somethin man. I'm hangin my head in shame right now cuz this is my 3rd run, I'm going perpetual, and I still haven't swithed over to the easiest most effective grow method out there other than perfecting soil/soil-less organics. But I'm gettin there man. I know I need to do hydro if I wanna do this thing right, but I gotta work with what I'm stuck with using, and I refuse to have to wait 3 months every single time I make a plant take root, so I gotta do perpetual now, regardless of the medium. At least the medium I'm using will get me as close as I can get pretty much without fully making the switch, so well see how it works out. But like I said man, sorry for not takin the jump yet, n even though I'll still be doing one table, I'll get to re full setup really soon.
I WILL however be using the raised floor idea though. That's a Fuckin awesme idea, n I'll be getting onto that tomorrow. I really appreciate the hell outta that idea man. I'll be pickin up the plywood tomorrow n putting that shit into full effect. Other than that though, I'm gonna bust the big ass dehumidifier down there to counter balance humidity, and I'll be hookin up the filter tomorrow too after I give it a bath. Carbon filters that big need to be soaked for an hour before use, otherwise you run the risk of black lung effect, inhaling all kinds of loose charcoal fumes ain't good for the body. So I'll hook all the hardware up, and then do the floor, and then tarp that shit up.
LOL gypsy, I feel like I let ya down or somethin man. I'm hangin my head in shame right now cuz this is my 3rd run, I'm going perpetual, and I still haven't swithed over to the easiest most effective grow method out there other than perfecting soil/soil-less organics. But I'm gettin there man. I know I need to do hydro if I wanna do this thing right, but I gotta work with what I'm stuck with using, and I refuse to have to wait 3 months every single time I make a plant take root, so I gotta do perpetual now, regardless of the medium. At least the medium I'm using will get me as close as I can get pretty much without fully making the switch, so well see how it works out. But like I said man, sorry for not takin the jump yet, n even though I'll still be doing one table, I'll get to re full setup really soon.
GypsyBush
Well-Known Member
K1Ng... Just so you know...
I am not eve reading what you are saying until I SEE A PICTURE OF EBB & FLOW AT WORK...
Till then I will be just like a ghost... haunting your thread...
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I am not eve reading what you are saying until I SEE A PICTURE OF EBB & FLOW AT WORK...
Till then I will be just like a ghost... haunting your thread...
ebb & flow...ebb & flow...ebb & flow... ebb & flow... ebb & flow... ebb & flow... ebb & flow... ebb & flow... ebb & flow... ebb & flow... ebb & flow... ebb & flow...ebb & flow... ebb & flow...ebb & flow... ebb & flow... ebb & flow... ebb & flow... ebb & flow... ebb & flow... ebb & flow... ebb & flow... ebb & flow... ebb & flow...ebb & flow...
newconceptz
Active Member
very nice journal bro. Dem big pics r fine with me lol
K1Ng5p4d3
Junior Creatologist
Eh? I've read the entire grow FAQ a couple different times. It's not about not knowing how to improvise, it's about finding materials that Im happy with using, that'll hold up and work the way I want them to. I know the mechanics of everything, and if I wanted to I could set up a make shift aeroponics system tomorrow man, but it's about only wanting to have to build something once, and being happy with the results n knowing that I won't have to fuck with it again for a long time unless I want to. The DIY shit is simple, that was never my problem.. I've gone back n forth with possible replacements, from giant overszed concrete mixing trays, to prefabbed sandboxes, to pink industrial polystyrene 50lb insulation caps(which btw had absolutely perfect dimensions). I guess I just want my shit to look like I'm doing it professionaly, and if I can't make it the way I want to, then I'll go with what I know I can do well until I can make the step up in the way that I wanna do it. If I wanted to just throw somethin together, I could do it In a half day easy, since I already have absolutely everything else that I need except the tables. N I mean everything. PuMps, tubing, rez's, meters, hydroponic nutes, hydroton, rockwool, netpots, stands, and pretty much everything else that I could think of. I'm only missing 3 4x4 tables. That's it.
Sorry if I'm comin off like I'm pissed or anything like that, I just think that I'm being more Misunderstood as not knowing what to do to fix my problem, rather than just not being happy with my alternative choices, so I refuse to accept anything below the standards I've set for myself. No worries though, like I keep sayin, I'll get there, just gonna take one more run. The FAQ's ain't an issue even in the least, since I've read them front to back, along with about ten other books on growing.
Sorry if I'm comin off like I'm pissed or anything like that, I just think that I'm being more Misunderstood as not knowing what to do to fix my problem, rather than just not being happy with my alternative choices, so I refuse to accept anything below the standards I've set for myself. No worries though, like I keep sayin, I'll get there, just gonna take one more run. The FAQ's ain't an issue even in the least, since I've read them front to back, along with about ten other books on growing.
GypsyBush
Well-Known Member
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420weedman
Well-Known Member
if your usin a dehumid, use the water from that for your plants supposedly its pretty pure 