K1Ng5p4d3's Cardboard Box Grow (hehe)

spida said:

Haha. Silly gypsies. I'm sure it wasn't HTG, they probably wouldn't want to ruin their rep by doing that. It could have been tampered with along the line by a postal worker. You never know. But good luck. For both waking up at 5am, which I will never be able to do in my life, and for getting your stuff fixed.

K1ng - You made me crack up when you said baffled. I don't know why, but it was fucking hilarious. hahaha.

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You're probably right Spida... prob. the post office... but that doesn't explain why I have a square reflector instead of a cool tube...

Well.... it's all pointless...

I have to call them... and I will wake up because I have already trimmed the clones twice... they were supposed to be in the box flowering days ago... I want this to be the first problem they solve... bright and early... while they are still in a good mood...

Time is money... they are wasting my time.... I am easy, but I am not cheap...lol...

spida said:

Haha. Silly gypsies. I'm sure it wasn't HTG, they probably wouldn't want to ruin their rep by doing that. It could have been tampered with along the line by a postal worker. You never know. But good luck. For both waking up at 5am, which I will never be able to do in my life, and for getting your stuff fixed.

K1ng - You made me crack up when you said baffled. I don't know why, but it was fucking hilarious. hahaha.

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try havin a kid dude. 5am comes pretty fuckin quick, and you find yourself wakin up for the first 5-6 months at 5-6 in the fuckin mornin.

LOL chalk that up to one more good reason to wrap it up. lol

my fucking twilight seeds arent germing yet. theyve been in towels for a full 24 hours and they havent even cracked yet. I have 3 bluecheesies already in soil, waitin on my light to come so i can finish my setup n get them into my upper box. Right now my big plants are takinup real estate up there on a 12/12 regimen, so im fucked right now, n i gotta deal with three dank plants under 145 watts of white/blue cfl on my fuckin desk. But that aint even whats pissin me off - MY TWILIGHT SEEDS AINT CRACKIN GOD DAMNIT!!!

i wrote a really nice letter to the Tude though, bein real nice n beatin around the bush a whole hell of alot, n usin a bunch of indirect references, sayin in a round about way that my collectible seeds dont look like they would germ, should i put them in a paper towel, n shit like that, so maybe theyll break policy for me n send me over some PPP replacement seeds or somethin nice like that LOL - wishful thinking i know, but hey, we can all dream.

Worst comes to worst, ill be growing 4 bluecheesies, 2 whiteberries, n 2 northern souls, which aint bad anyways, still 8 plants, but got damnit, i was excited about my fuckin purps.

I had one of them in a rockwool cube, to see how well it fared, but i think im just too worrysome when it comes to fuckin usin other mediums besides soil. I havent done a dro grow before, and i wanna perfect growin in some dirt with high powered bud n high powered nutrients, before i move on to the next step. granted, i have a waterfarm, but i realized the other day that i have a bit of a dilemma on my hands, lol.

check this - im so fuckin stupid - I bought the fuckin waterfarm on the deal, thinkin, ok, itll be sweet cuz i can grow one plant usin dro to see how it works out. So im sittin here thinkin about how cool its gonna be, and i realize that i have two fuckin plants in my upper box flowering. I wanna put them under the 600 hps to finish up flowering n get a nice swell on, but if i do that shit, im fucked. That means i wont be able to bust the hydro cuz it wont fit in my veg box, and i cant wait till my original plants are done in my tent, cuz by the time that sht happens ill be ready to flower all my dank seeds. so its either let my original girls finish up under their original CFL's and use the tent from start to finish on this grow comin up, or just grow all soil this time around, and plan my shit out better when i move out. BUT, when i move out, im gonna be doin like 20-30 plants, and its all gonna be done in dro, jah willing.

So basically i either use the bucket thisone time, or i wasted some dollars on the motherfucker. I may as well put the fuckin thing on ebay or some shit, n at least double my money ( i paid a total of like 21 bucks including tax for a full waterfarm setup - i could sell it for 50 easy +shipping).

So i need some advice i guess is what im sayin here. Do i finish up my grow in the box i started it in, or do i just say fuckit, and give my fuckin bitches a nice little HPS boost for the last 4 weeks of the grow, and then fuckin just do soil through n through on the danky seeds?

I NEED ADVICE. n not biased advice you hydroponic purist fuckers. I need some practical advice, lol. I guess the downside to this is, i bought a complete MH/HPS setup, and if i put my 1st grow girls into the tent to finish up, ill never get to use my MH bulb to veg anything. itll basically be CFLs n HPS. BAH, this is fuckin confuzzling.

n Spida,

i AM baffled, you motherfucker you

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

n Spida,

i AM baffled, you motherfucker you

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LMFAO! I don't know why but that's fucking hilarious. Haha. Gypsy, the 8" reflector could have just been an honest mistake, and then the rest was post office. People DO make mistakes.

K1ng.. I'ma have to read that in the morning... like at 5:30 or some shit... I'm just too stoned for that many words in a sequence... I tried like 5 times.. sorry bro...

spida said:

LMFAO! I don't know why but that's fucking hilarious. Haha. Gypsy, the 8" reflector could have just been an honest mistake, and then the rest was post office. People DO make mistakes.

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I thought I made a mistake once... but I was wrong... ... HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Oh I know dude... it's just frustrating...

I have been busting ass, cause the light was gonna be here and I wasn't ready... and the clones are ready... and my shit wasn't ready and the light was coming...

and I get everything set up and now I gotta put up with this crap????

Silly Gypsy... but time is money... and Gypsies don't like giving it away for no good reason...

I guarantee you that if I was costing them money, they would want it resolved yesterday... well so do I...

Thanks for hangin' guys...

I'll catch you on the flip side...

Gypsy...

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

So i need some advice i guess is what im sayin here. Do i finish up my grow in the box i started it in, or do i just say fuckit, and give my fuckin bitches a nice little HPS boost for the last 4 weeks of the grow, and then fuckin just do soil through n through on the danky seeds?

I NEED ADVICE. n not biased advice you hydroponic purist fuckers. I need some practical advice, lol. I guess the downside to this is, i bought a complete MH/HPS setup, and if i put my 1st grow girls into the tent to finish up, ill never get to use my MH bulb to veg anything. itll basically be CFLs n HPS. BAH, this is fuckin confuzzling.

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Well I just recently had this very delima when I got my 1000W light. I had 9 little girls in soil under a 400W bulb about 3-4 weeks out from done, so here was my senario.
I had a 1000W MH/HPS digital ballast, a 1000W MH bulb, a 1000W HPS bulb, 6 girls grown at appropriate size for a 400W, 12 just rooted clones in a tray veging under a 250W MH.

So my main issue with this was that the flowering girls were 400w size and I was so far into flower that the 1000W wasnt making them get bigger cause they were done growing and just finishing. The new girls however were starting to grow and I had to chose the 1000W MH vs the 250w MH to veg the next crop.

So I chose to cut down the girls early and move the tray over to the flowering side of my room. This is my FIRST HYDRO FLOWER its the one in my sig.

So that was my choice make way for the new.

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

my fucking twilight seeds arent germing yet. theyve been in towels for a full 24 hours and they havent even cracked yet. I have 3 bluecheesies already in soil, waitin on my light to come so i can finish my setup n get them into my upper box. Right now my big plants are takinup real estate up there on a 12/12 regimen, so im fucked right now, n i gotta deal with three dank plants under 145 watts of white/blue cfl on my fuckin desk. But that aint even whats pissin me off - MY TWILIGHT SEEDS AINT CRACKIN GOD DAMNIT!!!

i wrote a really nice letter to the Tude though, bein real nice n beatin around the bush a whole hell of alot, n usin a bunch of indirect references, sayin in a round about way that my collectible seeds dont look like they would germ, should i put them in a paper towel, n shit like that, so maybe theyll break policy for me n send me over some PPP replacement seeds or somethin nice like that LOL - wishful thinking i know, but hey, we can all dream.

Worst comes to worst, ill be growing 4 bluecheesies, 2 whiteberries, n 2 northern souls, which aint bad anyways, still 8 plants, but got damnit, i was excited about my fuckin purps.

I had one of them in a rockwool cube, to see how well it fared, but i think im just too worrysome when it comes to fuckin usin other mediums besides soil. I havent done a dro grow before, and i wanna perfect growin in some dirt with high powered bud n high powered nutrients, before i move on to the next step. granted, i have a waterfarm, but i realized the other day that i have a bit of a dilemma on my hands, lol.

check this - im so fuckin stupid - I bought the fuckin waterfarm on the deal, thinkin, ok, itll be sweet cuz i can grow one plant usin dro to see how it works out. So im sittin here thinkin about how cool its gonna be, and i realize that i have two fuckin plants in my upper box flowering. I wanna put them under the 600 hps to finish up flowering n get a nice swell on, but if i do that shit, im fucked. That means i wont be able to bust the hydro cuz it wont fit in my veg box, and i cant wait till my original plants are done in my tent, cuz by the time that sht happens ill be ready to flower all my dank seeds. so its either let my original girls finish up under their original CFL's and use the tent from start to finish on this grow comin up, or just grow all soil this time around, and plan my shit out better when i move out. BUT, when i move out, im gonna be doin like 20-30 plants, and its all gonna be done in dro, jah willing.

So basically i either use the bucket thisone time, or i wasted some dollars on the motherfucker. I may as well put the fuckin thing on ebay or some shit, n at least double my money ( i paid a total of like 21 bucks including tax for a full waterfarm setup - i could sell it for 50 easy +shipping).

So i need some advice i guess is what im sayin here. Do i finish up my grow in the box i started it in, or do i just say fuckit, and give my fuckin bitches a nice little HPS boost for the last 4 weeks of the grow, and then fuckin just do soil through n through on the danky seeds?

I NEED ADVICE. n not biased advice you hydroponic purist fuckers. I need some practical advice, lol. I guess the downside to this is, i bought a complete MH/HPS setup, and if i put my 1st grow girls into the tent to finish up, ill never get to use my MH bulb to veg anything. itll basically be CFLs n HPS. BAH, this is fuckin confuzzling.

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just start em in soil .... and when they get big clone em and stick em in hydro !
i just got my seeds from attitude .... they didnt send the free skunk , but i got the free NL AND DP .. i sent them an email lets see what they say ...
started germing DP blueberry and SS white widow .... hopefully they are good !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you should have told attitude that the seeds you are having problems with were a little "smashed" when you recieved them ... if they ask for them back ... just smash them some

3 cheers for HTG ! .. i knew they wouldnt leave ya hangin

if you gonna use that hood ... see if you can fix it better than with tape !
and then gimme it !!

hell yeah, no doubt gypnasty!!! good to hear that HTG still practices honest business. n your right, not many people do nowadays. So thats fuckin awesome. Glad to hear your gonna get your cooltube. those things fuckin RAWK.

lmao spade, lmao all i have to say, word up mafucka makeshift and ghetto for life

420weedman said:

3 cheers for HTG ! .. i knew they wouldnt leave ya hangin

if you gonna use that hood ... see if you can fix it better than with tape !
and then gimme it !!

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I'll probably tack weld the frame back together... fix the dent on the flange... sand, prime and store for when I decide to get a 1000 watt HPS...

Nice try though... If any of my friends needed one, they would have it already... but everyone here is pretty well set up... I'm the guetto grower of the bunch... lol....

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

hell yeah, no doubt gypnasty!!! good to hear that HTG still practices honest business. n your right, not many people do nowadays. So thats fuckin awesome. Glad to hear your gonna get your cooltube. those things fuckin RAWK.

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Yeah I can't wait...

Hey Man, I didn't mean to ignore you yesterday.. there were just too many words together for the sate I was in...

I'm gonna go back and read it now... sorry Bro...

Catch you on the flip side...

G

Damn that was long....hehehe...

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

my fucking twilight seeds arent germing yet. theyve been in towels for a full 24 hours and they havent even cracked yet.

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Patience.... are they warm? and humid?

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

I have 3 bluecheesies already in soil, waitin on my light to come so i can finish my setup n get them into my upper box.

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Your upper box is the... shit I'm confused... please describe your set up as it stands today...

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

Right now my big plants are takinup real estate up there on a 12/12 regimen, so im fucked right now, n i gotta deal with three dank plants under 145 watts of white/blue cfl on my fuckin desk.

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Ok... so you're not done flowering but need the space... huhmmmmm

How much space will you have for the plants? could you vegg them a long time and just trim them back? I know nothing of diff. strains... are the one you have auto flowering..?

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

But that aint even whats pissin me off - MY TWILIGHT SEEDS AINT CRACKIN GOD DAMNIT!!!

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Patience... Isay the same shit when I am waiting for the river to freeze so we can drive on it... freeze damn t!!! but it always does it's thing at it's own pace...

Watching seeds grow is kinda like watching the puddles freeze... when you look away... action happens... just forget them for a bit...

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

i wrote a really nice letter to the Tude though, bein real nice n beatin around the bush a whole hell of alot, n usin a bunch of indirect references, sayin in a round about way that my collectible seeds dont look like they would germ, should i put them in a paper towel, n shit like that, so maybe theyll break policy for me n send me over some PPP replacement seeds or somethin nice like that LOL - wishful thinking i know, but hey, we can all dream.

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Yes we can all dream... I am dreaming of a world where the postal workers don't mangle your shit in transit....

But it never hurts to ask politely...

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

Worst comes to worst, ill be growing 4 bluecheesies, 2 whiteberries, n 2 northern souls, which aint bad anyways, still 8 plants, but got damnit, i was excited about my fuckin purps.

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That is not a bad menu my friend... not at all...

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

I had one of them in a rockwool cube, to see how well it fared, but i think im just too worrysome when it comes to fuckin usin other mediums besides soil.

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You know K1ng... you should start out with some bagseeds, so you can do it stress free...

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

I havent done a dro grow before, and i wanna perfect growin in some dirt with high powered bud n high powered nutrients, before i move on to the next step. granted, i have a waterfarm, but i realized the other day that i have a bit of a dilemma on my hands, lol.

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Dude... leave the dirt outside for the worms to play in...

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

check this - im so fuckin stupid - I bought the fuckin waterfarm on the deal, thinkin, ok, itll be sweet cuz i can grow one plant usin dro to see how it works out. So im sittin here thinkin about how cool its gonna be, and i realize that i have two fuckin plants in my upper box flowering.

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Dude... just throw some bagseed in there and try it out... get used to operating the system... who cares if you get buds.... just run it through it's paces... can you keep a plant alive in it???? can you feed it without burning it?

Shit like that... put it under some CFLs... who cares... just learn the system.... then when you want to put your dank seeds in there, you know what to do and expect....

Gardening requires patience...exercise it... lol....

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

I wanna put them under the 600 hps to finish up flowering n get a nice swell on, but if i do that shit, im fucked.

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If you already have it going and it's doing good... use the new set up for the new plants...

I was going to put my AG under my 600.. but now everything else is ready, so I will just keep the AG whre it is and the new batch gets the new gear...

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

That means i wont be able to bust the hydro cuz it wont fit in my veg box, and i cant wait till my original plants are done in my tent, cuz by the time that sht happens ill be ready to flower all my dank seeds.

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Put it in the kitchen counter... bathroom sink... anywehere you can keep it w/ some cfls and try it w/ bagseed... did I tell you I love repeating myself.. hahahaha....

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

so its either let my original girls finish up under their original CFL's and use the tent from start to finish on this grow comin up, or just grow all soil this time around, and plan my shit out better when i move out.

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Let them finish w/ what they started... pretend the light never got there for them....

Use the new equipment to start a new batch....

Leave the dirt outside... the bugs love it...

and YES.. BY ALL MEANS ... PLAN IT BETTER NEXT TIME...

But that is behind us....

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

BUT, when i move out, im gonna be doin like 20-30 plants, and its all gonna be done in dro, jah willing.

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If you are going to be doing a big hydro set up... why in the world do still hear soil out of your mouth...?????

You are only going to learn and get good at something you have experience with... so start now... so when the time comes, you have some knowledge of what you are going to do...

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

So basically i either use the bucket thisone time, or i wasted some dollars on the motherfucker. I may as well put the fuckin thing on ebay or some shit, n at least double my money ( i paid a total of like 21 bucks including tax for a full waterfarm setup - i could sell it for 50 easy +shipping).

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If you are going to sell it, don't use it...

But I would just put a bagseed in there under some cfls and...

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

So i need some advice i guess is what im sayin here. Do i finish up my grow in the box i started it in, or do i just say fuckit, and give my fuckin bitches a nice little HPS boost for the last 4 weeks of the grow, and then fuckin just do soil through n through on the danky seeds?

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Do I really need to answer again?

Why not...

Finnish the ones you started where they are...

Start the new batch with the new gear...

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

I NEED ADVICE. n not biased advice you hydroponic purist fuckers. I need some practical advice, lol. I guess the downside to this is, i bought a complete MH/HPS setup, and if i put my 1st grow girls into the tent to finish up, ill never get to use my MH bulb to veg anything. itll basically be CFLs n HPS. BAH, this is fuckin confuzzling.

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I am not a purist... I have done plenty of soil... OUTSIDE... hehehe....

Sprout and clone with cfls... vegg with the MH and flower with the HPS...

You can do it all with the HPS.. but you got all the shit already...

Old plants with the old lights...

New plants with the new lights...

Hydro a bagseed to learn the system...

And when you go big... I would deff. look into ebb & flow (flood & drain)... that is the set-up for lazy stoners.... like us... least chance of failure, least daily maintenance and most reliable...

I really hope this helps, cause I just typed way more than I should have... hahahahaha.....

Cheers K1ng...

Good Luck on your decision...

Gypsnasty... the Miniaturizer....

Lol that was long gypsy. Glad to here things are looking up with HTG, and that it seems your time will be the only lost expense.

I agree with gypsy on the lighting situation King, old plants old lights, new plants new lights. That will solve the whole problem, and your girls are coming along pretty well, wait them out, and smoke on them till the good shit is done. Also I've had seeds take over 2 weeks to germ before, I almost threw them away, went out of town and came home to like 7 seedlings. So don't be to worried if its only been 1-2 days.

Good to hear that gypsy. And most companies usually have you keep stuff if they fuck it up, because if they have to send you all new equipment, and ship yours to them, and theres to yours, they wouldn't be making money, they'd be losing more money, then if they shipped it back. Congrats to hear that though man. Also, thanks for breaking down K1's post, but i still could only make it half way through. >< Haha.

spida said:

Good to hear that gypsy. And most companies usually have you keep stuff if they fuck it up, because if they have to send you all new equipment, and ship yours to them, and theres to yours, they wouldn't be making money, they'd be losing more money, then if they shipped it back. Congrats to hear that though man. Also, thanks for breaking down K1's post, but i still could only make it half way through. >< Haha.

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Yeah.. I'm happy ... they are doing me good and I will deff. look them up again when I need shit...

As for K1ngs post... I need to figure out how to get some of the stuff he is smoking....

He had ONE question, subdivide into 3 related categories...

One question would have told him what he need to know... 3 if he was stoned on some good weed... but that was outta sight!!! ...

You hear K1ng... if you want us to read a book and answer one question you gotta start sharing that shit..!!!!!! hahahaha...!!!!

Just giving you a hard time Bro...!!

Peace ...

G

Haha, yup we're messing with you K1. And not to hi-jack the thread, but gypsy you should check out my journal.

hey man, hijack away, i got nothin better to do with this shit anyways until soemthin new to report happens, so shootin the shit just seems fitting

N i did come to a final descision, via some of gypsies advice. Im gonna leave the current bagseed plants up in my original ghettobox to finish up, and im startin a new batch with the new setup. As far as the dro bucket goes though, i think im gonna use it, but its not ready though. I need to get an airstone still, but i cant get that til next week, so ill probably set it up with a Super SKunk seed, cuz im not really worried about those, lol, theyre freebies anyways. So what ill do is, ill hook it up like normal, with the pump n tubing, and just hope the irrigation ring gets water to the center of the bucket, and soaks up in the hydroton and actually gets my plant some water.

So ill try it out, n see what happens. This whole thing is about experimenting anyways right?

As for my Twilight purps, they still werent germing, so i put all 5 seeds into towels. 2 of them cracked, and the rest are like a deep black, almost like they turned color on me, and they just look like theyre not viable seeds. Fuck it though, ill keep them bitches wet for a week, n see what happens. But one of the twilight seeds that DID pop for me, the shell is still on it, n thats okay n everything, but right before i put it into its starter pot, i checked out the taproot, and about 3/4 the way up the taproot, its fuckin DEEP purple. anyone ever see some shit like that before??

All my bluecheesies are in soil - i planted 3 and kept two for a future grow in case i have to stop cloning and gotta start from seed all over again. And im still waitin on my whiteberry n northern to show up, but they should be here saturday, so ill setup my lighting tomorrow, put my seedlings in there, and germ the rest the next day, n shit should work out just fine. I still kinda wanna put either a whiteberry or a northern soul into my waterfarm, but its not worth the risk - so its between my two freebie strains - power skunk or super skunk - both by G13 labs.

Thanks for all the positive vibes your all throwin my way guys. I really do appreciate that shit - i just hope im throwin enough right back at all of youz to help you all keep positive n keep everything fun for the duration of your grows too. You all rawk, n ill probably be back tomorrow with an update on my current girls. Some fucked up shit happened today to one of my plants, and i wanna see if it recovers before i say anything and drop jaws, lol. Your gonna wanna slap me for this one


talk to you guys tomorrow.
-K1.