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Just made some oil today...

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jonnynobody

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Had that same thing happen to me last time I did a nice batch of sugar trim...still smoked good but not as potent as the amber oil I churned out with pop corn nugs.
 
The Growery

The Growery

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I'll be doing a vac purge bho soon, I'll post up some pics. -20 for the pressure btw, not sure what unit it is, just read off the hand brake line pump, they all come with built in guages. Not sure who it was but you don't lose potency vacuum purging, the THC is not going to evaporate with the butane, if that were the case, potency would be lost no matter how you purge it.
 
The Growery

The Growery

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Weedz b Baked said:
You can make amber glass that has basically no butane but most people prefer the inferior product called 'honeycomb'. Amber glass is so much easier to get on the dabber than trying to smash budder on the end but that's just my preference.

Just because vacuum purging doesn't technically use 'heat' doesn't mean you can't lose flavor and potency by over vaccing. Instead of giving them a pressure to pull at, you just said 20 minutes which isn't very accurate.

IMO the op's oil looked like it had a good amount of butane still in it. I know people will suggest homemade vacuum chambers but I wouldn't skimp on anything. I've heard of people using glass jars that have imploded on them. For what it matters you can make 'clean' oil without a vacuum chamber, the only thing is you have to adjust your temperature if you always want a nice gold colored amber glass. As for 'honeycomb' I've made honeycomb not using a vacuum chamber. Personally I think people over use the vacuum purge as one dispensary markets their stuff "3x vacuum purged". There's no doubt in my mind vacuum purging 3 times reduces the flavor and potency.
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ah found it. was looking for your post. you know nothing about purging with your statements. do some research.
 
Weedz b Baked

Weedz b Baked

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I never said you lose THC :) You lose potency by butane evaporating and moisture is pulled into your product which forms wax. Oil should be clear. I wasn't an ass to you, no need to be an ass back...
 
Weedz b Baked

Weedz b Baked

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The fact that you think you get all the butane out by vac purging shows how little you know, so before insulting others you could stand doing some research yourself.
 
bowlfullofbliss

bowlfullofbliss

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Trichyn9ne said:
I don't think I saw this mentioned but what helps a ton is to pre heat the pyrix dish in a water bath right before running the tane. As the tane/goods hit the dish it is quickly evaporating the tane which then makes the perge less work in my books!
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What temp are you making the water for the bath? I've been having a hard time getting good bho lately. I'm really struggling to get it looking like the stuff posted up here.
 
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jonnynobody

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I remember making a bunch of earwax or 'budder' on a couple of occasions but it's been so long ago I can't really tell ya why I wound up with that stuff instead of the pure amber honey oil....maybe I should have kept notes....

Actually I think it just came back to me. If I remember right, I used a lot more trim in a few runs and ran some high quality goods on a few others....certainly not a scientific explanation but that's all I can remember dammit.
 
cephalopod

cephalopod

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Weedz b Baked said:
I never said you lose THC :) You lose potency by butane evaporating and moisture is pulled into your product which forms wax. Oil should be clear. I wasn't an ass to you, no need to be an ass back...
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I didn't think I was an ass to you, if you notice I gave you a like a few post later. You made a statement and I guess I asked you to show your work to help me understand what you were saying. Just looking to learn. Isn't there a direct relation with loss of THC and loss of potency? I wasn't inferring that the vac purge cleared things 100%. Do you go as far as using a transfer solvent to seperate and freeze the waxes from your oil or mind sharing your method at all?
 
Weedz b Baked

Weedz b Baked

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Lol. Sorry I didn't use quotes.. I was referring to when The Growery said I knew nothing about purging.

I apologize. Oil is transparent and the fact that it 'budders or waxes up' shows that there is moisture in it which I've found to be less potent. Sorry I speak like it's a fact but I'm tired of hearing budder is better than amber glass.
 
cephalopod

cephalopod

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Lol my bad, I was kinda like WTF. I posted a while back in another what I've found to be one of the most concise write by Gray Wolf w/ Skunk Pharm. From my experience there isn't a lot of information readily available for people, another reason I like asking these ?'s.
Weedz b Baked said:
Lol. Sorry I didn't use quotes.. I was referring to when The Growery said I knew nothing about purging.

I apologize. Oil is transparent and the fact that it 'budders or waxes up' shows that there is moisture in it which I've found to be less potent. Sorry I speak like it's a fact but I'm tired of hearing budder is better than amber glass.
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Medical420MI

Medical420MI

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Here it is. The rocks of amber is the first wash and the amber honey is the second wash. They are both stable at room temp and smells great like the plant and drying buds did. The b wash is tasty as hell and potent! The a wash stuff is almost too potent and knocks me the fuck out. Lol

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jonnynobody

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Medical420MI said:
Here it is. The rocks of amber is the first wash and the amber honey is the second wash. They are both stable at room temp and smells great like the plant and drying buds did. The b wash is tasty as hell and potent! The a wash stuff is almost too potent and knocks me the fuck out. Lol

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Props to you sir! Nice looking batch of oil you got there.
 
mrcokeandcrown

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Medical420MI said:
Here it is. The rocks of amber is the first wash and the amber honey is the second wash. They are both stable at room temp and smells great like the plant and drying buds did. The b wash is tasty as hell and potent! The a wash stuff is almost too potent and knocks me the fuck out. Lol

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Alright now I would like step by step directions as to what EXACTLY YOU did, I'm going to try a batch with some of my outdoor trim an don't wanna fuck it up.
 
snowbud4

snowbud4

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I have made both wax and oil and found my wax to be much more potent. I used the same method to extract with the same nugs. Used 5x refined butane and a glass extractor. The only difference was that I whipped the oil after it stopped bubbling for about 20-30 min. which turned it into wax. When you whip it more butane is released because you do this while you are still purging with warm water on a hot plate. The oil was amber and very good but the wax was a golden wheat color and Had an awesome taste and aroma.
 
Medical420MI

Medical420MI

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snowbud4 said:
I have made both wax and oil and found my wax to be much more potent. I used the same method to extract with the same nugs. Used 5x refined butane and a glass extractor. The only difference was that I whipped the oil after it stopped bubbling for about 20-30 min. which turned it into wax. When you whip it more butane is released because you do this while you are still purging with warm water on a hot plate. The oil was amber and very good but the wax was a golden wheat color and Had an awesome taste and aroma.
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I tried this the first time and it still turned to amber glass. I don't know if it was tje strain or what but I couldn't get it to wax up.
 
snowbud4

snowbud4

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hmm, you eventually have to take it off the heat because if you heat it, itll just melt down into oil but i have only tried it once and it worked the first time.
 
Weedz b Baked

Weedz b Baked

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I've noticed amber glass to be way more potent but I think I've said that before. I've made honeycomb, budder, wax, all different forms of oil but I've found amber glass to be by far the most potent. I take smaller dabs with amber glass and I don't get a feeling like I want to take another dab where I do with wax/budder. I've had people give me dabs of 'proper' made wax but I still prefer my amber glass. I'm not saying it's fact or anything but I see clubs charge more for amber glass than wax/budder so..? I don't know what to make of all of it but I know I prefer amber glass and I'm not sure why some prefer one over another..? Anyways enough talk. Here's two pics of some oil I made recently.
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I'm not the best photographer but it's better than nothing lol..
 
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