Jumping white bugs with runoff. What are they??

MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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truentgoon said:
That's good that the tent is its own protection but I'm going to clean the carpet anyway with one part cleaner and one part boiling water and put it in the carpet cleaner machine that spreads it around.

Cloth sheets over the carpet so adleast I can throw them in the wash if they get dirty so I don't have to clean the carpet all the time lol.
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That’s what I do with the curtain I have in front of the drying closet in my room.

Preventative measures are the best security.
 
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truentgoon

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MichiganMedGrower said:
That’s what I do with the curtain I have in front of the drying closet in my room.

Preventative measures are the best security.
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I heard springtails can come with your coco and the only way to get rid of them is with boiling water is this true.

It would be a nuisance to run boiling water through my coco I already rinsed it 4 times with hot water.
 
MichiganMedGrower

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truentgoon said:
I heard springtails can come with your coco and the only way to get rid of them is with boiling water is this true.

It would be a nuisance to run boiling water through my coco I already rinsed it 4 times with hot water.
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That’s rediculous. They eat rotting matter and are attracted to moisture. Coco is inert and dry.

They come from outside and are populated in thousands per square yard of topsoil.

They jump around on the snow here. Read the link I provided. They are common bugs.

They are also not a worry. If they get out of hand in your garden it is a sign of something else wrong. And when it’s bad most get fungus gnats along with them. Their larvae are little white specs too.

I use ocean forest. Many say it comes with pests. I have never seen any in the soil. But I have seen gnats around the bags in Grow stores. I avoid those. They are improperly stored and likely damp.

Over water a while and have a bad environment or overfeed or some other mistake and the pests will come.
 
Kingrow1

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The way i thought it was that a good soil had all the food they needed and a bad soil didnt. Shouldnt be too hard to learn most nearly everything on them in soil on the internet.

MichiganMedGrower said:
That’s rediculous. They eat rotting matter and are attracted to moisture. Coco is inert and dry.

They come from outside and are populated in thousands per square yard of topsoil.

They jump around on the snow here. Read the link I provided. They are common bugs.

They are also not a worry. If they get out of hand in your garden it is a sign of something else wrong. And when it’s bad most get fungus gnats along with them. Their larvae are little white specs too.

I use ocean forest. Many say it comes with pests. I have never seen any in the soil. But I have seen gnats around the bags in Grow stores. I avoid those. They are improperly stored and likely damp.

Over water a while and have a bad environment or overfeed or some other mistake and the pests will come.
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MichiganMedGrower

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Kingrow1 said:
The way i thought it was that a good soil had all the food they needed and a bad soil didnt. Shouldnt be too hard to learn most nearly everything on them in soil on the internet.
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There should not be enough rotting matter in your medium to sustain a full blown invasion.

It’s one of the signs telling me I have been overfeeding. The roots burn before we see the leaf stress.
 
Kingrow1

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MichiganMedGrower said:
There should not be enough rotting matter in your medium to sustain a full blown invasion.

It’s one of the signs telling me I have been overfeeding. The roots burn before we see the leaf stress.
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I thought they prefered fungi and microbes as well as spreding beneficial bacteria and fungi spores. In a sense they help culture your soil not anything bad. The only reason they were bad is when levels reach epedemic and then they will eat surface roots as their food source dwindles. Mainly most roots are well below their small reach and that habitable zone was dictated by wet and dry cycles and the depth of soil moisture...
 
Kingrow1

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Not that you want them but i have never experienced any harm from them except mild annoyance.

They jump when scared or threatened, pass a pencil over a mass infestation and you get a mexican wave from the little guys.
 
MichiganMedGrower

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Kingrow1 said:
I thought they prefered fungi and microbes as well as spreding beneficial bacteria and fungi spores. In a sense they help culture your soil not anything bad. The only reason they were bad is when levels reach epedemic and then they will eat surface roots as their food source dwindles. Mainly most roots are well below their small reach and that habitable zone was dictated by wet and dry cycles and the depth of soil moisture...
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I only find them a nuisance too. They are alive in a healthy garden so what you are saying is true but a flower pot is a very small environment and one thing can easily take over if the balance is upset. And every time I see the infestation grow I see other problems arise too. Yes they are unrelated except one warns of the other.

Also clearing away the leaves from around my house diligently (I live in a forest) has majorly reduced their numbers.

I never had them when I used pro mix. They seem to like primarily leaf mold and rotting roots.

Even when I had potters gold soil right next to the pro mix pots they didn’t cross over.

Potter’s gold includes leaf humus for organic input.

But yeah. The point is they are only a nuisance bug.
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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MichiganMedGrower said:
I only find them a nuisance too. They are alive in a healthy garden so what you are saying is true but a flower pot is a very small environment and one thing can easily take over if the balance is upset. And every time I see the infestation grow I see other problems arise too. Yes they are unrelated except one warns of the other.

Also clearing away the leaves from around my house diligently (I live in a forest) has majorly reduced their numbers.

I never had them when I used pro mix. They seem to like primarily leaf mold and rotting roots.

Even when I had potters gold soil right next to the pro mix pots they didn’t cross over.

Potter’s gold includes leaf humus for organic input.

But yeah. The point is they are only a nuisance bug.
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More fungi and microbes in soil, promix is only part soil maybe...
 
Trying2Bbetter

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My Viparspectrum PAR 700 is making my temp 84 degrees. I'm on a carpet but on top of plastic constant spraying peroxide on the surrounding plastic. But, I bought a portable AC and it is raining over here and a weird smell started to be in my room. I turned on a air purifier took the damn thing out the window and bleached the side that was on the window. Cant run it while its raining. But, it needs to run since it is too hot in there. Soooo, know I don't know what to do. Should I vent it into the room? Can't make a whole in the wall, no access to attic, I don't know what to do!! Also, those little bugs live in water for a long fucking time. If they are springtails, there was a little standing water under the pot elevator, and boom them little shits still jumping cleaned it off bleached it and sprayed peroxide. Either way, not too worried plants look solid, but the AC issue wtf!!
 
Kingrow1

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Trying2Bbetter said:
My Viparspectrum PAR 700 is making my temp 84 degrees. I'm on a carpet but on top of plastic constant spraying peroxide on the surrounding plastic. But, I bought a portable AC and it is raining over here and a weird smell started to be in my room. I turned on a air purifier took the damn thing out the window and bleached the side that was on the window. Cant run it while its raining. But, it needs to run since it is too hot in there. Soooo, know I don't know what to do. Should I vent it into the room? Can't make a whole in the wall, no access to attic, I don't know what to do!! Also, those little bugs live in water for a long fucking time. If they are springtails, there was a little standing water under the pot elevator, and boom them little shits still jumping cleaned it off bleached it and sprayed peroxide. Either way, not too worried plants look solid, but the AC issue wtf!!
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Springtails cause no harm, do not use peroxide, they will go in time. Best to watch and learn of them :-)
 
Dealgrowz

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MichiganMedGrower said:
Carpet is not recommended. It can hold pests and mold. But I never had a problem when I used a tent in a carpeted room. Just vacuumed often and followed the rest of what I wrote.

Depends where you live as far as what pests you may piggyback in. Pets are carriers too.

You may need a humidifier or dehumidifier to keep a safe environment too. I use both in Michigan.

As far as the rooms. I washed every surface with h2o2 and amonia before setting up. And clean often.

I had a new carpet at the time but with an old carpet I would sanitize and likely cover with plastic.
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Is there any concern about moisture build up between the plastic and carpet? I have a friend growing in a carpeted room and we are wondering what's the best way to protect the carpet
 
Wastei

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Kingrow1 said:
Ya just means you got some straight up dope soil, increase water frequency if they get out of control, great at jumping shit at swimming ;-)
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What are you talking about dude? I've had a literal springtail farm in DWC. They are agile swimmers FYI. Cheers!
 
Wastei

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Dealgrowz said:
Is there any concern about moisture build up between the plastic and carpet? I have a friend growing in a carpeted room and we are wondering what's the best way to protect the carpet
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Don't use a carpet at all? I would make drop off raised beds so you get optimal aeration and get everything raised above the floor.

Then you can let run off evaporate or shopvac from the bottom of the trays. That's what I do.
 
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