January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

DIY-HP-LED

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they have less than a year to get something unstoppable started, because Democrats seem to be incapable of using their enemy's tactics against them, and will lose their majority in congress almost certainly, and once that happens, what ever is going on in the 1/6 investigation better be moving at an unstoppable rate, because that's the first train they'll try to derail....
By then the report will be issued and there will probably be an independent special counsel that will take over. I expect most of the higher up prosecutions, including GOP congress people to happen over the summer. Cheney said the report will be coming quickly the other day. The shit will hit the fan for 1/6 before the next election and Trump will be in a NY prison at least. The public will need a pre election reminder of 1/6 and this should do it, Donald going down in NY might hurt them badly if he turns on them, or doesn't win the GOP nomination from his prison cell. Donald will be desperate by then and will claim he was a "political prisoner" if he loses to Joe, he will also think it might be a way to get out of jail or at least attention.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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By then the report will be issued and there will probably be an independent special counsel that will take over. I expect most of the higher up prosecutions, including GOP congress people to happen over the summer. Cheney said the report will be coming quickly the other day. The shit will hit the fan for 1/6 before the next election and Trump will be in a NY prison at least. The public will need a pre election reminder of 1/6 and this should do it, Donald going down in NY might hurt them badly if he turns on them, or doesn't win the GOP nomination from his prison cell. Donald will be desperate by then and will claim he was a "political prisoner" if he loses to Joe, he will also think it might be a way to get out of jail or at least attention.
you are a much more optimistic person than i am....everyone was all excited about Mueller, and what did he actually achieve?
https://time.com/5610317/mueller-report-myths-breakdown/
all of this, and nothing happened to trump....https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury?__c=1
a lot of pissants, but not the fucking hive king....and most of the pissants got off....
i'll believe in justice when trump is locked up along with most of his inner circle, until then, i ain't even close to convinced trump will ever do a day in jail
 

DIY-HP-LED

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you are a much more optimistic person than i am....everyone was all excited about Mueller, and what did he actually achieve?
https://time.com/5610317/mueller-report-myths-breakdown/
all of this, and nothing happened to trump....https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury?__c=1
a lot of pissants, but not the fucking hive king....and most of the pissants got off....
i'll believe in justice when trump is locked up along with most of his inner circle, until then, i ain't even close to convinced trump will ever do a day in jail
You won't have long to wait IMHO, the feds might take a bit of time, but NY looks set to pounce on the Trumps. We will see, the next year should tell the tale, but for now, Donald is useful for fucking the GOP up and keeping them in disarray. The shit will hit the fan when it counts most, this coming spring and summer in the early election season.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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All the President's Lackeys: Bannon, Clark, Eastman & the Others. Watergate vs. the Insurrection

"All the President's Men," is a phrase synonymous with Richard Nixon's criminal associates from the Watergate scandal. Today, we could use the phrase "All the President's Lackeys" to describe Trump's motley crew of criminal associates: Steve Bannon, Jeffrey Clark, John Eastman, Roger Stone, Mike Flynn, Rudy Giuliani and others.

We know that the House select committee is investigating the January 6 attack on the US Capitol and that Representative Liz Chaney just announced that public hearings will begin in early 2022. How does the process and timeline of the insurrection investigation compare to the process and timeline of the Watergate investigation? The comparison provides some hope for accountability and justice.
 

HGCC

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We seem to be ignoring the chaff and barriers left behind the Trump administration.

The q folk have been asserting that 40,000 sealed enticements would be served for all those who ever turned against trump in the final days of trumps first reign. That didn't happen.

Some of these posts seem oddly reminiscent of that.
Did the real perpetrators of Iran contra see real punishment? Nope. Did Nixon see the inside of a cell? Nope. Did Bush and Cheney ever get their noses rubbed in the filth of a three trillion dollar, thousands of casualties war based on outright lies? Nope.

When institutionalists like garland and mueller come up against gross perversions of the institutions they swear by they falter and ultimately fail.

Hell, it took three years for the institution of the fourth estate to even use the word lie.

It is all just too foreign for these well meaning but ultimately inept "champions" of democracy to comprehend let alone for them to act assertively.


My prediction is that the rioters slash insurectiinists most led on or most critically insane will be the only people actually held to account.

As a student of history, I was always most interested in the culture and behavior of the people in the last days of the Roman empire, more so, the flavor of the rational people at the conclusion of the Weimar Republic.

I never thought I might experience it first hand. In America, I believed, the cavalry always rides in at the last possible moment.

I seem to have been disillusioned.
Sadly I think you are very correct.
 

GoatSoup

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Why not subpeona Trunp now to testify under oath to the Committee? Let him explain why he should not be held responsible for the Insurrection and sedition of 1/6?
He's on tape calling for his sheeple to attack Congress, they did, and he is the asshle responsible!
Send a large group of federal marshals down to Mar a Largo, with a subpoena and handcuffs, and drag his fat ass back to DC .
We can get the rest of the lackeys as they fall all over themselves to dodge the warrens for their arrest, after Trump blames them for his errors? Let them plead the 5th in front of Congress and the cameras so everyne can see the fuckers squirm/
 

HGCC

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I dont think anyone's minds will be changed by the public hearings. There won't be mass outrage by people that aren't already. Nobody really has the stones to go after anything in a meaningful way beyond providing a sound bite.

There's a better than even chance a school shooter and his parents are going to be held up as martyrs by 25% of the population, half of voters. Shit is broken. It's getting old.


...but hey, we are having a diplomatic boycott of the Olympics. That'll show em.


*worth noting
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...and well this made me laugh.

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DIY-HP-LED

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Fifth Amendment Pleas, White House Metadata Redraw Picture Of 1/6 Investigation

Rachel Maddow looks at pieces of the January 6th investigation puzzle in which former DOJ official Jeffrey Clark and Trumpworld lawyer John Eastman, who performed similar roles in pressuring states to overturn Donald Trump's election loss, have invoked their Fifth Amendment rights, and now we've learned that Clark's letter to Georgia carries White House metadata fingerprints.
 

CatHedral

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We seem to be ignoring the chaff and barriers left behind the Trump administration.

The q folk have been asserting that 40,000 sealed enticements would be served for all those who ever turned against trump in the final days of trumps first reign. That didn't happen.

Some of these posts seem oddly reminiscent of that.
Did the real perpetrators of Iran contra see real punishment? Nope. Did Nixon see the inside of a cell? Nope. Did Bush and Cheney ever get their noses rubbed in the filth of a three trillion dollar, thousands of casualties war based on outright lies? Nope.

When institutionalists like garland and mueller come up against gross perversions of the institutions they swear by they falter and ultimately fail.

Hell, it took three years for the institution of the fourth estate to even use the word lie.

It is all just too foreign for these well meaning but ultimately inept "champions" of democracy to comprehend let alone for them to act assertively.


My prediction is that the rioters slash insurectiinists most led on or most critically insane will be the only people actually held to account.

As a student of history, I was always most interested in the culture and behavior of the people in the last days of the Roman empire, more so, the flavor of the rational people at the conclusion of the Weimar Republic.

I never thought I might experience it first hand. In America, I believed, the cavalry always rides in at the last possible moment.

I seem to have been disillusioned.
I’m bummed you fixed your typo. Champiogns, like champignons, thrive in the dark on predigested crap. It seemed a nicely layered jape.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Marc Short, top Mike Pence aide, cooperating with January 6 committee

Marc Short, the former chief of staff to Vice President Mike Pence, is cooperating with the January 6 committee, a significant development that will give investigators insight from one of the highest-ranking Trump officials, according to three sources with knowledge of the committee's activities.

CNN is also reporting for the first time that the committee subpoenaed Short a few weeks ago.

Short remains one of Pence's closest advisers and is a firsthand witness to many critical events the committee is examining, including what happened to Pence at the Capitol on January 6 and how former President Donald Trump pressured the former vice president not to certify the presidential election that day.

Short's assistance signals a greater openness among Pence's inner circle. One source told CNN the committee is getting "significant cooperation with Team Pence," even if the committee has not openly discussed that. Another source told CNN that Short's help is an example of the "momentum" the investigation is enjoying behind the scenes.

Last month, CNN reported that a number of figures close to Pence, including Short, may be willing, either voluntarily or under the guise of a "friendly subpoena," to cooperate with the committee.

Reached by phone Monday and asked about his cooperation, Short told CNN "no comment." The select committee declined to comment when reached by CNN.
 

Guitar Man

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This Thread is rampant with nothing but biased bullshit that has been fabricated by the MSM. Wake the fuck up and realize we are the fucking puppets and they pull the strings. Politics has always been, and always will be, a place of broken promises, corrupt politicians, and people who don't give a rats ass about you and I. You can dog Trump all you want, who's done plenty of bad shit, while FJB is taking a nap and beating off while reading a teleprompter. Our Government is fucked and you pawns are bloody stupid to follow these idiots who've drawn you into a narrative that is floundering in the piss of these Media giants who want to tear this Country apart. When it comes down to it, it's all about the money fuckers.
 

hanimmal

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This Thread is rampant with nothing but biased bullshit that has been fabricated by the MSM. Wake the fuck up and realize we are the fucking puppets and they pull the strings. Politics has always been, and always will be, a place of broken promises, corrupt politicians, and people who don't give a rats ass about you and I. You can dog Trump all you want, who's done plenty of bad shit, while FJB is taking a nap and beating off while reading a teleprompter. Our Government is fucked and you pawns are bloody stupid to follow these idiots who've drawn you into a narrative that is floundering in the piss of these Media giants who want to tear this Country apart. When it comes down to it, it's all about the money fuckers.
Im sorry man, at some points you are onto something and others you really go off into lala land. The 'both sides' troll is bullshit.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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This Thread is rampant with nothing but biased bullshit that has been fabricated by the MSM. Wake the fuck up and realize we are the fucking puppets and they pull the strings. Politics has always been, and always will be, a place of broken promises, corrupt politicians, and people who don't give a rats ass about you and I. You can dog Trump all you want, who's done plenty of bad shit, while FJB is taking a nap and beating off while reading a teleprompter. Our Government is fucked and you pawns are bloody stupid to follow these idiots who've drawn you into a narrative that is floundering in the piss of these Media giants who want to tear this Country apart. When it comes down to it, it's all about the money fuckers.
i don't know how old you are, i'm guessing mid 30s at the latest, probably under 30...it's easy to be cynical when you're younger, the older you get the more empathy you develop, the more you start to finally see both sides of shit, the more you realize you've been wrong you're whole life.
there are horrible people in the world, who will take a vow and break it, who will write rules and break them, who will promise to represent the people who elect them, and then forget all about them, instead playing the game of thrones, the game of houses, hoping to gain some real power...
then, there are people who go into public office because it seems important to them to see to it that some sensible laws get passed, that people who have amassed huge fortunes while giving their workers as little as they can get away with get held to account, that want to stop monolithic corporations from buying other politicians, so they can continue to pollute, abuse, misrepresent... not everyone in government is a fat pig snuffling in the mud for bribes and influence. not everyone in government is happy to be part of a country whose leaders play at empire building...figure out who is who, and get behind them
and fuck you guys who are going to give me shit about telling someone else to not be cynical :D
 

printer

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This Thread is rampant with nothing but biased bullshit that has been fabricated by the MSM. Wake the fuck up and realize we are the fucking puppets and they pull the strings. Politics has always been, and always will be, a place of broken promises, corrupt politicians, and people who don't give a rats ass about you and I. You can dog Trump all you want, who's done plenty of bad shit, while FJB is taking a nap and beating off while reading a teleprompter. Our Government is fucked and you pawns are bloody stupid to follow these idiots who've drawn you into a narrative that is floundering in the piss of these Media giants who want to tear this Country apart. When it comes down to it, it's all about the money fuckers.
We tend to give sources for our opinions on current events. It gives anyone here a chance to question the basis of an opinion and debate it if so desired.

Going over your post it reduces all sources as coming from MSN which is not accurate, you also do not give examples of which you feel are wrong. Is US politics driven by money? Sure. But it has been this way 50 years ago and the politics was not as fucked up as it is now, with minority groups pulling the strings.

So other than venting (usually a good thing) what have you brought to the conversation?
 

Grandpapy

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This Thread is rampant with nothing but biased bullshit that has been fabricated by the MSM. Wake the fuck up and realize we are the fucking puppets and they pull the strings. Politics has always been, and always will be, a place of broken promises, corrupt politicians, and people who don't give a rats ass about you and I. You can dog Trump all you want, who's done plenty of bad shit, while FJB is taking a nap and beating off while reading a teleprompter. Our Government is fucked and you pawns are bloody stupid to follow these idiots who've drawn you into a narrative that is floundering in the piss of these Media giants who want to tear this Country apart. When it comes down to it, it's all about the money fuckers.
The state of Georgia is fake?
 
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