January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

Roger A. Shrubber

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McCarthy told Trump that Jan. 6 rioters were ‘trying to —ing kill me’: book
During a heated phone call as Jan. 6 rioters were breaking into the U.S. Capitol building, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) told former President Donald Trump that those breaching the building were “trying to —ing kill” him, according to an account in an upcoming book.
The new detail about the Jan. 6 call comes from the “Weapons of Mass Delusion: When the Republican Party Lost Its Mind” by Robert Draper, which is being released next week, and was reported in Politico Playbook Tuesday morning.

Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler (R-Wash.) last February first revealed McCarthy’s account of the call to House Republicans, and a CNN story about the call added additional details from other GOP lawmakers.

“Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are,” Trump said.
Citing a Republican who McCarthy told about the call a few hours later, the book said McCarthy yelled back at the president.
“More upset?” McCarthy yelled. “They’re trying to —ing kill me!”

CNN reported in February 2021, citing another unnamed Republican, that McCarthy had told Trump that rioters were breaking into his office through the windows and said, “Who the — do you think you are talking to?”
McCarthy in interviews has not denied the comment from Trump, but has declined to elaborate on the call. His office did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the new detail from the Draper book.

The House GOP Leader, who is hoping to he Speaker in a GOP majority next year, has been credited in multiple recent books and articles with helping to rehabilitate Trump’s image and standing in the Republican Party after the Jan. 6 attack. He said soon after Jan. 6 on the House floor that Trump bore some responsibility for the attack, but weeks later traveled to Mar-a-Lago to meet with the former president.
trump sat by and let his insurrectionist mob almost kill his own butt boys.
do you think that if that mob had found a room full of sheltering officials, they would have asked them their party affiliation first? or waited till after they had hung them on that gibbet they erected for pence?
and the motherfuckers still follow him, after he abandonded ALL of them to his wolves...they better be glad his wolves are mostly fat old fucks
 

printer

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Jan. 6 panel’s likely final hearing to focus on Trump’s ‘state of mind’

The House committee investigating last year’s attack on the Capitol will assemble Thursday for what could be its final public hearing ahead of the midterms, promising to delve into former President Trump’s state of mind in a presentation designed to tie up a host of loose ends before the panel dissolves at the end of the year.

Through eight hearings in June and July, the committee had aired damning evidence revealing the extent to which Trump and members of his inner circle had sought to leverage the powers of the presidency to keep him in office despite his election defeat — a campaign that crescendoed in the violent rampage at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

But 16 months into the probe, investigators face the daunting task of crunching evidence gleaned from tens-of-thousands of documents and more than 1,000 witness interviews, packaging it into a concise closing argument and delivering it in the form of a compelling narrative capable of convincing voters that Trump and his supporters pose an ongoing threat to America’s democratic institutions.
For more than two hours on Thursday, they will begin that process.

“We’re going to bring a particular focus on the former president’s state of mind and his involvement in these events as they unfolded,” a committee aide told reporters Wednesday. “So what you’re going to see is a synthesis of some evidence we’ve already presented with that new never before seen information to illustrate Donald Trump’s centrality from the time prior to the election,” the aide said.

Such information could be key for Trump’s legal culpability, as many potential charges relating to the insurrection rely on demonstrating intent. As a separate matter, the committee still has to decide whether it will make criminal referrals based on its findings to the Justice Department, which is conducting its own wide-ranging investigation. “We have not reached a conclusion on that at this point,” Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.), a member of the committee, told CNN on Friday.

In a departure from prior hearings where one or two members were primarily responsible for walking through evidence and witness questions, in Thursday’s hearing, each participant on the nine-member panel will have a role. The panel is also not planning to have any live witness testimony for the hearing.

“In June and July, we zeroed in for the most part on a particular topic as we laid out a multi-step plan to overturn the 2020 presidential election and block transfer of power,” the aide said. “Tomorrow what we’re going to be doing is taking a step back.”

Among the details the committee is expected to share Thursday are new information gleaned from documents turned over by the Secret Service as well as clips from a documentary crew that followed Trump confidant Roger Stone.

The Secret Service turned over more than a million digital communications to the committee, far exceeding the information the panel requested.
Emails obtained by The Washington Post that were given to the committee by the Secret Service show that the agency was concerned about the armed supporters who were resistant to going through security to enter the Ellipse for Trump’s speech, a detail first revealed during the committee’s hearing with witness Cassidy Hutchinson, a former White House aide.

The emails also reportedly show the extent the White House was warned of the deteriorating situation at the Capitol, including resistance to Trump’s desired plan to make the journey to Capitol Hill alongside his supporters.

Other emails discuss Trump’s anger at being blocked from making the trip, though it is not clear whether the panel will be able to corroborate Hutchinson’s account – recounted to her in the presence of Trump’s lead security officer that day – that he lunged at his security detail on a drive from the Ellipse to the White House.

Additional evidence collected over the summer includes footage obtained following an international journey by investigative staff, who traveled to Denmark in August to meet with a documentary film crew that spent three years following Stone.
The crew was with Stone in Washington on Jan. 5 and Jan. 6, capturing some of his phone conversations as he stayed at the Willard Hotel, which the Trump team used as its “war room” ahead of Congress’s vote to certify the election results.
A March report from The Washington Post details how Stone was arranging pardons, and expressed resentment toward “lily-livered, weak-kneed” lawyers in the special counsel’s office for blocking some of them, including preemptive pardons.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3685474-jan-6-panels-likely-final-hearing-to-focus-on-trumps-state-of-mind/
 

BudmanTX

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The Jan. 6 committee plans to vote to subpoena Trump in today's hearing. Here's what could happen next.

The House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 US Capitol attack will vote to subpoena former President Donald Trump during Thursday’s hearing, multiple sources tell CNN.

If he chooses not to appear, there will be a few things that could happen next, according to Elie Honig, a CNN analyst and former federal prosecutor.

Honig said that while it is “unlikely” that he will appear, he could “theoretically” testify.

If he does not, and refuses to comply with the subpoena, the select committee will have to decide if they will vote to hold him in criminal contempt of Congress. If they do, it will then go to the full House for a vote, Honig said.

“If that passes, it goes to the Justice Department where the DOJ, the attorney general, Merrick Garland, will have to decide — do we bring criminal charges for criminal contempt of Congress,” he explained.

Criminal contempt is one of the three options the congressional panel can pursue to enforce its subpoenas, along with civil and inherent contempt.

The Jan. 6 committee has done this before, including approving a criminal contempt report against Trump ally Steve Bannon after he refused to comply with a subpoena deadline."



i say do it, screw him
 

hanimmal

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The Jan. 6 committee plans to vote to subpoena Trump in today's hearing. Here's what could happen next.

The House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 US Capitol attack will vote to subpoena former President Donald Trump during Thursday’s hearing, multiple sources tell CNN.

If he chooses not to appear, there will be a few things that could happen next, according to Elie Honig, a CNN analyst and former federal prosecutor.

Honig said that while it is “unlikely” that he will appear, he could “theoretically” testify.

If he does not, and refuses to comply with the subpoena, the select committee will have to decide if they will vote to hold him in criminal contempt of Congress. If they do, it will then go to the full House for a vote, Honig said.

“If that passes, it goes to the Justice Department where the DOJ, the attorney general, Merrick Garland, will have to decide — do we bring criminal charges for criminal contempt of Congress,” he explained.

Criminal contempt is one of the three options the congressional panel can pursue to enforce its subpoenas, along with civil and inherent contempt.

The Jan. 6 committee has done this before, including approving a criminal contempt report against Trump ally Steve Bannon after he refused to comply with a subpoena deadline."



i say do it, screw him
And it passed. Crazy. I would think he will try to slow roll it and hope Republicans win the house and he can slip past January. So got to wonder if they are going to try to fast track it to the SCOTUS and force his testimony before the new congress sits.
 

BudmanTX

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And it passed. Crazy. I would think he will try to slow roll it and hope Republicans win the house and he can slip past January. So got to wonder if they are going to try to fast track it to the SCOTUS and force his testimony before the new congress sits.
just saw that too, and like JJ said he won't show, they'll treat him like Bannon (fingers cross) or worse
 

doublejj

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'Stop the steal' supporters train thousands of U.S. poll observers

 

MickFoster

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All good thoughts, but unfortunately nothing's going to happen regarding this subpoena unless the Dems retain the House.......which is doubtful.
All he has to do is drag his feet until mid January and the Select Committee will cease to exist.
Even if the Dems retain the House.........he'll either not respond, or he'll plead the fifth.........and they won't do anything to him.
Hell, they'll probably start impeachment proceedings against Biden.
 

Herb & Suds

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All good thoughts, but unfortunately nothing's going to happen regarding this subpoena unless the Dems retain the House.......which is doubtful.
All he has to do is drag his feet until mid January and the Select Committee will cease to exist.
Even if the Dems retain the House.........he'll either not respond, or he'll plead the fifth.........and they won't do anything to him.
Hell, they'll probably start impeachment proceedings against Biden.
The DOJ will continue its efforts no matter what happens in November
I expect a great Christmas gift from the justice department after the midterms
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
What caught my ear was Sen. Cheney declaring that they had enough for criminal referrals for several individuals. While I agree that That Man will resist a subpoena by employing every weasel move in his weasel playbook, a criminal referral could be a short circuit. In court he will be compelled to testify.

In fact, that would disable a possibly coming GOP-heavy Congress from assisting That Man in delaying his appearance as Defendant. This is independent of his legal peril in the state of Georgia and his civil peril in New York.

The one thing I reallyreally want to see coming of all this is Kevin McCarthy before a judge. He is heir apparent to the Repug/Maga movement.

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Offmymeds

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So..
Miller, Ornato & Engel all liars, of course
Stone I think likes prison sex because he seems intent on going back
Secret Service knew & is to be investigated for obstructive behavior
New law to prevent the fake electors
Central player, FPOTUS to be subpoenaed

FPOTUS supporters will blame Schiff

PS - FOTUS ordered immediate withdrawal from Somalia and Afghanistan
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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All good thoughts, but unfortunately nothing's going to happen regarding this subpoena unless the Dems retain the House.......which is doubtful.
All he has to do is drag his feet until mid January and the Select Committee will cease to exist.
Even if the Dems retain the House.........he'll either not respond, or he'll plead the fifth.........and they won't do anything to him.
Hell, they'll probably start impeachment proceedings against Biden.
He whined it was all one sided and he had no defense, well here's his chance, it removes a talking point, and he has to put up or STFU. Not to worry, he'll have his day in court for J6, but the documents case will lock him up quicker than Georgia will, but the Georgia trial will be on TV, federal trials aren't. Maybe Donald will be in federal custody by then and will show up in orange with bad hair for his TV trial, three ring circus and riot in Futon Co.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
He whined it was all one sided and he had no defense, well here's his chance, it removes a talking point, and he has to put up or STFU. Not to worry, he'll have his day in court for J6, but the documents case will lock him up quicker than Georgia will, but the Georgia trial will be on TV, federal trials aren't. Maybe Donald will be in federal custody by then and will show up in orange with bad hair for his TV trial, three ring circus and riot in Futon Co.
Futon County: Atlanta’s spare-bedroom community
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Futon County: Atlanta’s spare-bedroom community
Half black and heavily democratic... I'd love to see Donald arrive in orange and cuffs whilst in federal custody. I predict a J6 style MAGAT riot on the courthouse steps, but Donald would be muzzled and federal property by then, so he couldn't gin up big crowds. Will he continue with his rallies after the election? Surround Mar A Largo with Magats? Try to flee? What will Donald do when reality comes crashing in and the cuffs go on at sentencing, will he physically resist being cuffed and have to be wrestled to the floor freaking out? Donald could have one Helluva Christmas!
 
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