January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

schuylaar

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life, dreams, plans, problems, goals...the same things we talk about now...it's not what you talk about, it's how you talk about it...
when you're having a face to face conversation with someone, you have to practice a little control, you can't call them a horse's ass and tell them that their parentage is suspect, because you probably live in close proximity to them, have to deal with them on a regular basis, probably even get along with them in general.
same for local businesses, if you can rate them anonymously, you can let loose about every little thing that bothers you, real and imagined...when someone you know asks your opinion about a local business you both know the owner of, you may not be quite so brutally honest.
the internet has killed social civility.
Bingo! That's why we must go back and end the filibuster- leadership will guide themselves accordingly and give themselves pause with the knowledge that the opposite team will get a turn again..the gridlock ended with 51.
 

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Bingo! That's why we must go back and end the filibuster- leadership will guide themselves accordingly and give themselves pause with the knowledge that the opposite team will get a turn again..the gridlock ended with 51.
No, the team in power will pass every law to tilt the game in their favor. If the other team gets in they will work to eliminate what the previous government has done and tilt the game their way. The will not be thinking, "We better be nice otherwise the other guys may not be nice."
 

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Judge: Bannon can argue to throw out contempt charges after conviction
A federal judge on Wednesday said he would give Stephen Bannon’s lawyers an opportunity to argue for the dismissal of criminal contempt of Congress charges, of which the former Trump White House adviser was convicted by a jury last week.

U.S. District Judge Carl Nichols denied Bannon’s motion for an outright acquittal on the charges but said in a brief order Wednesday that he would allow the defense team to further argue their motion to dismiss the indictment after they were prevented from calling members of the House Jan. 6 select committee to testify at last week’s trial.

Nichols said he “would benefit from further briefing” on the issue and ordered Bannon’s lawyers to submit a filing by Aug. 5.

The judge had previously denied the defense team’s motion to allow testimony from all nine members of the select committee at trial. But he expressed reservations about the decision and indicated in recent weeks that he would be willing to revisit the matter.

The constitution’s Speech or Debate Clause generally shields members of Congress from being compelled to testify in court proceedings. Bannon’s lawyers argued earlier this month that immunity is in tension with Bannon’s constitutional rights as a criminal defendant in a case over whether he unlawfully defied a committee subpoena.

“Mr. Bannon respectfully argues that because [select committee members] set in motion the prosecution of Mr. Bannon, they should not have been allowed to retreat behind the Speech or Debate Clause when evidence of their actions (and their testimony concerning the same) are directly relevant to Mr. Bannon’s charges, and essential to securing his Fifth and Sixth Amendment rights,” Bannon’s lawyers wrote in a filing earlier this month.

The defense team has argued Bannon was denied a fair trial when Nichols foreclosed the possibility of subpoenaing lawmaker testimony. They declined to call any witnesses to testify before a jury last week.

The jury convicted Bannon on two contempt counts after hearing from just two witnesses during the weeklong trial. They spent less than three hours deliberating before reaching a verdict on Friday.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
It's time to put the SS on notice, EVERYONE will be investigated, and those that deserve it will be prosecuted along with everyone else who aided and abetted trumps miserably failed coup attempt. I wonder if it ever occurs to secret service agents that they're protecting the integrity and honor of a man who has neither? And who is corrupting their integrity and honor? What little they have left, anyway.

send them a notice that if they can't sort things a little better, ALL of their records will be seized for analyses by security professionals, with no exception, and that ANY irregularities will be made public...
imo that bit if passive aggression says seize’m now or earlier!
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Legal analyst: Indicators pointing to 'severe legal peril' for Trump
70,365 views Jul 27, 2022 CNN legal analyst Norman Eisen breaks down US Attorney General Merrick Garland's remarks on the status of the Department of Justice's criminal probe into January 6 and why it points to "severe legal peril" for former President Donald Trump.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Judge: Bannon can argue to throw out contempt charges after conviction
A federal judge on Wednesday said he would give Stephen Bannon’s lawyers an opportunity to argue for the dismissal of criminal contempt of Congress charges, of which the former Trump White House adviser was convicted by a jury last week.

U.S. District Judge Carl Nichols denied Bannon’s motion for an outright acquittal on the charges but said in a brief order Wednesday that he would allow the defense team to further argue their motion to dismiss the indictment after they were prevented from calling members of the House Jan. 6 select committee to testify at last week’s trial.

Nichols said he “would benefit from further briefing” on the issue and ordered Bannon’s lawyers to submit a filing by Aug. 5.

The judge had previously denied the defense team’s motion to allow testimony from all nine members of the select committee at trial. But he expressed reservations about the decision and indicated in recent weeks that he would be willing to revisit the matter.

The constitution’s Speech or Debate Clause generally shields members of Congress from being compelled to testify in court proceedings. Bannon’s lawyers argued earlier this month that immunity is in tension with Bannon’s constitutional rights as a criminal defendant in a case over whether he unlawfully defied a committee subpoena.

“Mr. Bannon respectfully argues that because [select committee members] set in motion the prosecution of Mr. Bannon, they should not have been allowed to retreat behind the Speech or Debate Clause when evidence of their actions (and their testimony concerning the same) are directly relevant to Mr. Bannon’s charges, and essential to securing his Fifth and Sixth Amendment rights,” Bannon’s lawyers wrote in a filing earlier this month.

The defense team has argued Bannon was denied a fair trial when Nichols foreclosed the possibility of subpoenaing lawmaker testimony. They declined to call any witnesses to testify before a jury last week.

The jury convicted Bannon on two contempt counts after hearing from just two witnesses during the weeklong trial. They spent less than three hours deliberating before reaching a verdict on Friday.
ommfg can't these low life pieces of shit just lay the fuck down and die?
they have to thrash around theatrically and cause as much collateral damage as they can on their way out, because all the damage they have caused so far just isn't fucking enough...
 

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DOJ says its obtained new search warrant for Eastman’s phone
Federal prosecutors told a judge on Wednesday they have obtained a new search warrant directed at John Eastman, a lawyer who advised former President Trump on a scheme to overturn the 2020 election results, whose phone was seized by investigators last month.

Responding to a federal lawsuit Eastman filed challenging the seizure, Justice Department officials gave new details about their probe into his records and said they have worked to avoid infringing on any attorney-client privilege issues implicated by the search.

“The United States is in possession of Plaintiff’s cell phone, as well as a manual screen capture of certain contents of the device obtained by an agent not associated with the investigation team,” the prosecutors wrote in a court filing in New Mexico federal district court.

“Plaintiff’s cell phone and the manual screen capture currently are in Northern Virginia, in the possession of federal agents with the Department of Justice, Office of Inspector General. On July 12, 2022, a federal agent obtained a second federal search warrant from the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia that authorizes review of the contents of Plaintiff’s cell phone and the manual screen capture.”

The filing was submitted by Matthew Graves, the U.S. Attorney for D.C., and Thomas Windom, a federal prosecutor who has been detailed to oversee aspects of the DOJ’s Jan. 6 investigation.
The prosecutors said the DOJ has implemented a “filter protocol” to prevent investigators from reviewing potentially privileged records and that Eastman’s lawyers have been informed about the measure.

Federal law enforcement executed search warrants on Eastman and Jeffrey Clark, the former DOJ official who Trump had nearly installed as acting attorney general, on the same day last month in one of the most overt signs that the department had escalated its investigation into Trump’s inner circle.

Eastman is asking a federal judge to order his phone be returned and that investigators be blocked from conducting a search while his case proceeds.
 

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Trump, National Guard and Jan. 6: The Truth
If former President Donald Trump's word is not enough, an official Capitol Police timeline and Pentagon memo also back up his assertion that he authorized the use of the National Guard in the days before the Jan. 6 Capitol breach.

Trump and several of his aides have steadfastly maintained he offered to send at least 10,000 National Guard troops to Washington to aid in crowd control, but his overture was rejected by Congress and D.C. officials.

That version of events has been disputed by the House Jan. 6 select committee — composed entirely of Democrats and Republicans who have criticized Trump. That group has alleged Trump that ultimately instigated what it terms an "insurrection," and committee members argue there is no evidence Trump made such an authorization for National Guard troops, or that anyone stood in the way of an order if one was made.

 

Offmymeds

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It's time to put the SS on notice, EVERYONE will be investigated, and those that deserve it will be prosecuted along with everyone else who aided and abetted trumps miserably failed coup attempt. I wonder if it ever occurs to secret service agents that they're protecting the integrity and honor of a man who has neither? And who is corrupting their integrity and honor? What little they have left, anyway.

send them a notice that if they can't sort things a little better, ALL of their records will be seized for analyses by security professionals, with no exception, and that ANY irregularities will be made public...
That should be the normal course of business IMO. No option. They are paid very well. If they can't take the scrutiny then buh bye, we can get better civil servants with better screening methods.
 

Offmymeds

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Trump, National Guard and Jan. 6: The Truth
If former President Donald Trump's word is not enough, an official Capitol Police timeline and Pentagon memo also back up his assertion that he authorized the use of the National Guard in the days before the Jan. 6 Capitol breach.

Trump and several of his aides have steadfastly maintained he offered to send at least 10,000 National Guard troops to Washington to aid in crowd control, but his overture was rejected by Congress and D.C. officials.

That version of events has been disputed by the House Jan. 6 select committee — composed entirely of Democrats and Republicans who have criticized Trump. That group has alleged Trump that ultimately instigated what it terms an "insurrection," and committee members argue there is no evidence Trump made such an authorization for National Guard troops, or that anyone stood in the way of an order if one was made.

Trump disputes leading any violent protests and points to a speech just before the Capitol breach at which he urged supporters to protest "peacefully and patriotically."

An official timeline of the events leading up to Jan. 6 that was constructed by the Capitol Police and the Pentagon provides key evidence Trump and his administration took steps to provide National Guard troops and sought to have a peaceful event, contrary to the House committee's claims.

Here is a breakdown of the timeline:

The Pentagon first offered National Guard troops to the Capitol Police on Jan. 2. A Department of Defense official contacted Capitol Police Deputy Chief Sean Gallagher to see if a request for troops was forthcoming, but the offer was quickly rejected after a discussion with then-Chief Steve Sund.

The sole entry on Jan. 2 in the Capitol Police timeline states: "Carol Corbin (DOD) texts USCP Deputy Chief Sean Gallagher, Protective Service Bureau, to determine whether USCP is considering a request for National Guard soldiers for Jan. 6, 2021 event.

On Jan. 3, Capitol Police released an updated security assessment regarding the upcoming rally, which indicated a chance of armed protesters. "Due to the tense political environment following the 2020 election, the threat of disruptive actions or violence cannot be ruled out," it stated. "Supporters of the current president see Jan. 6, 2021 as the last opportunity to overturn the results of the presidential election. This sense of desperation and disappointment may lead to more of an incentive to become violent."

• On Jan. 4, Sund started seeking permission for security assistance from Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Michael Stenger and House Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving. His request was denied. He notified Gen. William Walker, commander of the D.C. National Guard,
about the need for support. But the timeline stated that Sund "does not have the authority to request at this time." Walker told Sund, if the chief could get approval from Capitol officials, he could deploy 125 troops.

• As Sund's requests were being rebuffed, the Pentagon was moving ahead with its own plans to get Trump to authorize National Guard troops if Congress requested them. According to a memo penned by the Pentagon inspector general, the Defense Department offered Congress assistance before Jan. 6.

• On Sunday, Jan. 3, then-acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley, White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and chief of staff for the Department of Defense Kash Patel met with Trump on national security matters. Toward the end of the meeting, Trump brought up the number of protesters expected on Jan. 6 and discussed making sure it was a safe event by providing a National Guard presence.
• A Vanity Fair reporter who followed Miller in the last weeks of Trump's administration detailed the remark in a report published later. The reporter indicated the exchange took place Jan. 5, while the inspector general placed it on Jan. 3. After discussing Iran, the Vanity Fair report stated that the conversation suddenly "switched gears" when Trump asked Miller how many troops the Pentagon was planning to deploy on Jan. 6.

When Miller told the president they would supply any National Guard support that was requested, Trump replied: "You're going to need 10,000 people." Under the law, a president can authorize the use of the National Guard; however, local officials must request the National Guard for domestic deployment.

• The inspector general's memo also provided insight into officials' fears about involving the National Guard due to concerns it could create the perception of a military coup or martial law being instituted as the election results were certified by Congress. Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy told the inspector he "did not want to create the perception that the military was involved in the electoral process," according to the memo.

• On Jan. 5, Washington Mayor Muriel Bowser wrote a letter to Miller and other officials at the Justice and Defense departments asking that National Guard troops not be deployed unless the local Metropolitan Police Department signed off.

"To be clear, the District of Columbia is not requesting other federal law enforcement personnel and discourages any additional deployment without immediate notification to and consultation with MPD, if such plans are underway," Bowser wrote in her letter.

She noted that the Metropolitan Police Department was "well-trained and prepared to lead the way" to ensure the safety of anyone present at the scheduled Jan. 6 political rallies.
Newsmax is missing some important details, such as Gen. Miller's testimony under oath.
 

Fogdog

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Trump, National Guard and Jan. 6: The Truth
If former President Donald Trump's word is not enough, an official Capitol Police timeline and Pentagon memo also back up his assertion that he authorized the use of the National Guard in the days before the Jan. 6 Capitol breach.

Trump and several of his aides have steadfastly maintained he offered to send at least 10,000 National Guard troops to Washington to aid in crowd control, but his overture was rejected by Congress and D.C. officials.

That version of events has been disputed by the House Jan. 6 select committee — composed entirely of Democrats and Republicans who have criticized Trump. That group has alleged Trump that ultimately instigated what it terms an "insurrection," and committee members argue there is no evidence Trump made such an authorization for National Guard troops, or that anyone stood in the way of an order if one was made.

Trump disputes leading any violent protests and points to a speech just before the Capitol breach at which he urged supporters to protest "peacefully and patriotically."

An official timeline of the events leading up to Jan. 6 that was constructed by the Capitol Police and the Pentagon provides key evidence Trump and his administration took steps to provide National Guard troops and sought to have a peaceful event, contrary to the House committee's claims.

Here is a breakdown of the timeline:

The Pentagon first offered National Guard troops to the Capitol Police on Jan. 2. A Department of Defense official contacted Capitol Police Deputy Chief Sean Gallagher to see if a request for troops was forthcoming, but the offer was quickly rejected after a discussion with then-Chief Steve Sund.

The sole entry on Jan. 2 in the Capitol Police timeline states: "Carol Corbin (DOD) texts USCP Deputy Chief Sean Gallagher, Protective Service Bureau, to determine whether USCP is considering a request for National Guard soldiers for Jan. 6, 2021 event.

On Jan. 3, Capitol Police released an updated security assessment regarding the upcoming rally, which indicated a chance of armed protesters. "Due to the tense political environment following the 2020 election, the threat of disruptive actions or violence cannot be ruled out," it stated. "Supporters of the current president see Jan. 6, 2021 as the last opportunity to overturn the results of the presidential election. This sense of desperation and disappointment may lead to more of an incentive to become violent."

• On Jan. 4, Sund started seeking permission for security assistance from Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Michael Stenger and House Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving. His request was denied. He notified Gen. William Walker, commander of the D.C. National Guard,
about the need for support. But the timeline stated that Sund "does not have the authority to request at this time." Walker told Sund, if the chief could get approval from Capitol officials, he could deploy 125 troops.

• As Sund's requests were being rebuffed, the Pentagon was moving ahead with its own plans to get Trump to authorize National Guard troops if Congress requested them. According to a memo penned by the Pentagon inspector general, the Defense Department offered Congress assistance before Jan. 6.

• On Sunday, Jan. 3, then-acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley, White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and chief of staff for the Department of Defense Kash Patel met with Trump on national security matters. Toward the end of the meeting, Trump brought up the number of protesters expected on Jan. 6 and discussed making sure it was a safe event by providing a National Guard presence.
• A Vanity Fair reporter who followed Miller in the last weeks of Trump's administration detailed the remark in a report published later. The reporter indicated the exchange took place Jan. 5, while the inspector general placed it on Jan. 3. After discussing Iran, the Vanity Fair report stated that the conversation suddenly "switched gears" when Trump asked Miller how many troops the Pentagon was planning to deploy on Jan. 6.

When Miller told the president they would supply any National Guard support that was requested, Trump replied: "You're going to need 10,000 people." Under the law, a president can authorize the use of the National Guard; however, local officials must request the National Guard for domestic deployment.

• The inspector general's memo also provided insight into officials' fears about involving the National Guard due to concerns it could create the perception of a military coup or martial law being instituted as the election results were certified by Congress. Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy told the inspector he "did not want to create the perception that the military was involved in the electoral process," according to the memo.

• On Jan. 5, Washington Mayor Muriel Bowser wrote a letter to Miller and other officials at the Justice and Defense departments asking that National Guard troops not be deployed unless the local Metropolitan Police Department signed off.

"To be clear, the District of Columbia is not requesting other federal law enforcement personnel and discourages any additional deployment without immediate notification to and consultation with MPD, if such plans are underway," Bowser wrote in her letter.

She noted that the Metropolitan Police Department was "well-trained and prepared to lead the way" to ensure the safety of anyone present at the scheduled Jan. 6 political rallies.
"Trump and several of his aides have steadfastly maintained he offered to send at least 10,000 National Guard troops to Washington to aid in crowd control, but his overture was rejected by Congress and D.C. officials.:

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There is no record or other evidence that Trump made that offer or that Pelosi rejected it.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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Breaking Down DOJ's Investigation into Trump’s Actions As Part Of Jan. 6 Probe
28,846 views Jul 27, 2022 Washington Post national investigative reporter Carol Leonnig and former Acting Solicitor General Neal Katyal discuss Leonnig’s reporting that DOJ is honing in on Trump’s involvement in the fake electors scheme and has also obtained phone records from Trump insiders
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Well Glenn can have sex with his wife again! He was getting his shorts in a real knot there for a spell, but most experts were expressing concern too, which is probably why Garland spoke. I still think it will be awhile before Donald is actually indicted, but he and those around him must be getting pretty paranoid. Knock on their doors real hard at 6 AM, if ya wanna make em shit in bed! :lol:
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Important new data points indicate DOJ does, in fact, have Donald Trump in its criminal sights
17,849 views Jul 27, 2022 Blockbuster reporting in the Washington Post reveals several data points that lead to the inescapable conclusion that Donald Trump is under criminal federal investigation. Investigative reporter Carol Leonnig and other WAPO reporters revealed that witnesses are being questioned in the federal grand jury about Donald Trump's statements, his conduct, his conversations with his lawyers, etc. Additionally, reporting shows that grand jury subpoenas have been issue to Arizona state legislators compelling the disclosure of all documents and communications "to, from, with" or about "any member, employee, or agent of Donald J. Trump." Finally, WAPO reported that back in April, federal prosecutors subpoenaed phone records of Trump's former Chief of Staff Mark Meadows and other administration officials. This is an ominous sign not only for Trump but for Ginni Thomas, wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, given her text communications with Meadows urging him to overturn the results of the presidential election.

Here's some of what these data points tell us about the state of DOJ's criminal investigation of the crimes of Donald Trump.
 
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