January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

DIY-HP-LED

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I hope they keep dropping video clip turds on Donald a couple of times a week to keep the story alive in the media. Even Secret Service agent testimony to investigators.


Jan. 6 Committee Releases Testimony On Lines Cut From Trump's Speech The Day After Capitol Riot
70,311 views Jul 25, 2022 Rep. Elaine Luria, D-Va., released new video from the January 6 committee of testimony from Trump White House officials testifying on the speech the former president gave the day after the Capitol riot, including what lines were cut.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Kinzinger: Secret Service, Ginni Thomas Told Media They'll Talk To Us. Our Doors Are Open.
281,821 views Jul 25, 2022 Rep. Adam Kinzinger joins Jonathan Lemire to discuss next steps for the Jan. 6 committee, including their hope to speak with Ginni Thomas and the Secret Service, hopefully voluntarily.
 

topcat

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I hope they keep dropping video clip turds on Donald a couple of times a week to keep the story alive in the media. Even Secret Service agent testimony to investigators.


Jan. 6 Committee Releases Testimony On Lines Cut From Trump's Speech The Day After Capitol Riot
70,311 views Jul 25, 2022 Rep. Elaine Luria, D-Va., released new video from the January 6 committee of testimony from Trump White House officials testifying on the speech the former president gave the day after the Capitol riot, including what lines were cut.
"Yesterday is a hard word for me."
 

DIY-HP-LED

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All his failures live there. Tomorrow has none. It is that man’s concept of the savior, since it makes all of yesterday’s betrayals (it’s never his fault, never) redeemed and all good again.
Donald's alternate reality force field is about the run up against the legendary immovable object at the speed of light. There should be lot's of shit flying in all directions, along with fireworks and loud noises. When his usefulness ends, Donald will end up in prison along with quite a few other assholes. I wonder what his body count will be in the end, there will be many lawyers among the suckers. I wonder if the DOJ will indict him for wire fraud over the stop the steal scam and freeze his war chest! :lol: That would be an easy case to make too.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Donald's alternate reality force field is about the run up against the legendary immovable object at the speed of light. There should be lot's of shit flying in all directions, along with fireworks and loud noises. When his usefulness ends, Donald will end up in prison along with quite a few other assholes. I wonder what his body count will be in the end, there will be many lawyers among the suckers. I wonder if the DOJ will indict him for wire fraud over the stop the steal scam and freeze his war chest! :lol: That would be an easy case to make too.
I am not counting my chickens until convictions. Not even indictments are accepted at this point.

Your massive contributions on the topic are written to look like reason, but when I inspect, I find sentiment. This means that the argument of reason is distorted by current feelings that are different from the sentiment that sedimented one or two years ago. To this outside observer, this appears as “the goalposts” never being fixed, always precessing on more than one axis. So forgive me if I regard your declarations in re pandemic, war or insurrection as “factually incomplete and presented with overconfidence”, and the prognostications as largely losing wagers.

This could be much different if you openly analyzed your fails instead of litterboxing them. Then again … these glass walls are awesome for pitching practice …
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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There is no level playing field with the constituents being tugged this way, then that, by skilled communicators with the money to keep minting tasty lies. I will wager that if you took a census of MTG’s district and asked the right questions, you’ll find that most who voted for her believe a lot of nonsense, which is the way the folks in suits like it.

That is because there is money in it.
Take the money out of the equation.

Should the Democrats gain enough power, I wonder if these two possible laws might help.

1) All lobbyists must record how much they gave whom, and must donate a matching amount to this nation’s public schooling system.

2) Churches are defined as lobbyists.

3) find some way to make dark money less of either
well, that was sort of my point, that Cheney doesn't want campaign reform, or a level field, and using "you could be funding mtg" isn't a good answer...
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Let's talk about Season 2 of the Jan 6 hearings....
this is exactly what i am hoping for...if the democrats can get solid control of the house AND the senate for 2 years and get some legislation passed that actually helps people, helps families, it will make them MUCH more viable in 24...if we get both houses again in 24, they can have the presidency, we'll keep them tied up in so much legislaton they hate that their veto hand will have a permanent cramp...and they won't get one goddamned thing passed for the entire administration, let them experience a little obstructionism from the other side. and all the while, we'll be codifying privacy rights bills, voting rights bills, and campaign reform laws...effectively nullifying a good portion of the fuckery their packed court of supreme perjurers will attempt
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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From 4h ago
Judge blocks Georgia DA from investigating Trump 'fake elector'
The criminal inquiry into Donald Trump’s efforts to overturn his election defeat by Joe Biden in Georgia has hit a speed bump.
In what the Atlanta Journal Constitution calls “a surprise decision and a significant rebuke” of Fulton county district attorney Fani Willis, superior court judge Robert McBurney said Monday she cannot pursue her investigation of state senator Burt Jones.
Fani Willis.

Fani Willis. Photograph: John Bazemore/AP
Jones was one of the 16 secretive “fake electors” who were lined up to fraudulently certify a Trump victory in the state he lost to Biden in 2020 by almost 12,000 votes.
McBurney granted a motion by Jones, a Republican running for Georgia lieutenant governor, to remove Willis and her team from looking into his role in the scandal, citing the fact Willis hosted a campaign fundraiser last month for Jones’s now opponent, Democrat Charlie Bailey.
McBurney wrote:
An investigation of this significance, garnering the public attention it necessarily does and touching so many political nerves in our society, cannot be burdened by legitimate doubts about the district attorney’s motives.
The district attorney does not have to be apolitical, but her investigations do.
As a consequence, an alternative prosecutor must now decide whether to continue treating Jones as “a target” of the investigation, as Willis designated the 16 “fake electors” last week, and whether to charge him with criminal misdeeds.
The Georgia inquiry is widely seen as one of the best chances of holding Trump liable for his “big lie” that the election was stolen from him, and efforts to alter the result, which included the deadly 6 January Capitol insurrection.
Earlier this month, the Georgia prosecutors issued subpoenas for several members of Trump’s legal team, including South Carolina’s Republican senator Lindsey Graham and former New York city mayor Rudy Giuliani to testify.
On Monday, CNN reported, Georgia governor Brian Kemp, who has clashed frequently with Trump over the state’s certification of Biden’s victory, gave recorded testimony to a grand jury assisting the investigation.
The inquiry has focused in part on an infamous phone call Trump made to Georgia secretary of state Brad Raffensperger after the 2020 election urging him to “find” the number of votes the outgoing president needed to win the state.

Actually not nearly as bad as i was anticipating. I'm fairly sure she could find another prosecutor willing to investigate him, and it keeps the weasel from slipping free later, as the noose tightens.
 

schuylaar

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That's why you see a lot of Trump bumper stickers, it's pot smokers who don't want to get pulled over by the cops, or people driving out of state for abortions.
This is what they're thinking about.

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Wonder what a big 'L' in the crosshair means? next to the flag they got themselves covered..what do the green and red stripe mean?
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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This is what they're thinking about.

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Wonder what a big 'L' in the crosshair means? next to the flag they got themselves covered..what do the green and red stripe mean?
L is for Leupold, a well known optics maker(rifle scopes)
the green and red stripe is supposed to mean you show support for military and fire fighters, the blue is for law enforcement...dunno if there is a "clandestine" meaning or not
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I am not counting my chickens until convictions. Not even indictments are accepted at this point.

Your massive contributions on the topic are written to look like reason, but when I inspect, I find sentiment. This means that the argument of reason is distorted by current feelings that are different from the sentiment that sedimented one or two years ago. To this outside observer, this appears as “the goalposts” never being fixed, always precessing on more than one axis. So forgive me if I regard your declarations in re pandemic, war or insurrection as “factually incomplete and presented with overconfidence”, and the prognostications as largely losing wagers.

This could be much different if you openly analyzed your fails instead of litterboxing them. Then again … these glass walls are awesome for pitching practice …
The future is uncertain, but when we are speaking of probabilities, the chances are high that Donald will be indicted and convicted according to most legal experts. The delays in investigations by the DOJ and J6 panel are suggestive of political motives, at least to me. This puts the whole hot mess into election season and the GOPs lap.

As for prophecy, ya win some ya lose some, In the Ukraine war I choose a side and I'm not an impartial observer, same for US politics, on one side you have liberal democracy and on the other you have fascists and authoritarians. I've been observing American society and learning a lot these past few years on your journey with Donald to the bottom. I find it fascinating that almost half of American voters are enthralled with this obvious POS and speculating on reasons.

Ukraine will win the war, according to expert opinion and the only reason they are not winning it quicker is we have been holding back on arms. There may be a variety of reasons for this, avoiding nuclear war and destroying Russia's economy and military. In any case the conflict opens up many new possibilities in the region. I editorialize, shoot me! :lol:
 

DIY-HP-LED

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From 4h ago
Judge blocks Georgia DA from investigating Trump 'fake elector'
The criminal inquiry into Donald Trump’s efforts to overturn his election defeat by Joe Biden in Georgia has hit a speed bump.
In what the Atlanta Journal Constitution calls “a surprise decision and a significant rebuke” of Fulton county district attorney Fani Willis, superior court judge Robert McBurney said Monday she cannot pursue her investigation of state senator Burt Jones.
Fani Willis.

Fani Willis. Photograph: John Bazemore/AP
Jones was one of the 16 secretive “fake electors” who were lined up to fraudulently certify a Trump victory in the state he lost to Biden in 2020 by almost 12,000 votes.
McBurney granted a motion by Jones, a Republican running for Georgia lieutenant governor, to remove Willis and her team from looking into his role in the scandal, citing the fact Willis hosted a campaign fundraiser last month for Jones’s now opponent, Democrat Charlie Bailey.
McBurney wrote:
An investigation of this significance, garnering the public attention it necessarily does and touching so many political nerves in our society, cannot be burdened by legitimate doubts about the district attorney’s motives.
The district attorney does not have to be apolitical, but her investigations do.
As a consequence, an alternative prosecutor must now decide whether to continue treating Jones as “a target” of the investigation, as Willis designated the 16 “fake electors” last week, and whether to charge him with criminal misdeeds.
The Georgia inquiry is widely seen as one of the best chances of holding Trump liable for his “big lie” that the election was stolen from him, and efforts to alter the result, which included the deadly 6 January Capitol insurrection.
Earlier this month, the Georgia prosecutors issued subpoenas for several members of Trump’s legal team, including South Carolina’s Republican senator Lindsey Graham and former New York city mayor Rudy Giuliani to testify.
On Monday, CNN reported, Georgia governor Brian Kemp, who has clashed frequently with Trump over the state’s certification of Biden’s victory, gave recorded testimony to a grand jury assisting the investigation.
The inquiry has focused in part on an infamous phone call Trump made to Georgia secretary of state Brad Raffensperger after the 2020 election urging him to “find” the number of votes the outgoing president needed to win the state.

Actually not nearly as bad as i was anticipating. I'm fairly sure she could find another prosecutor willing to investigate him, and it keeps the weasel from slipping free later, as the noose tightens.
She hardly needs him to prosecute Trump, if he is a fake elector though, the DOJ could indict him too. This is part of her expanded investigation, it also gives her a chance to slow down Trump's ride to Hell a bit, while she tries to build a bigger conspiracy case against the fake electors. The more people she indicts, the more who will want to squeal for a deal.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Judge blocks Georgia DA from developing case against Trump ally
240,926 views Jul 25, 2022 A Georgia judge blocked Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis from investigating Burt Jones, a Republican state senator, as part of the investigation into efforts by former President Donald Trump and his allies to overturn the 2020 presidential election in that state. Jones is one of 16 fake Trump electors who signed on to the "unofficial electorate certificate" in a plan to subvert the Electoral College in the 2020 election.
 

Lucky Luke

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He's needed by the democrats for the 2022 election, after that he will be dealt with. Right now he is doing useful work in dividing the republicans and throwing them into disarray, they have to carry him like a millstone around their necks into the election.
So the law is being controlled by politicians for their own gain?
Shouldn't the law and politics be separate?
 
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