January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

DIY-HP-LED

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Rep. Schiff: Difficult For DOJ To Avoid Investigating Trump
90,458 views Jun 29, 2022 Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA), member of the Jan. 6th Cmte., joins MSNBC's Lawrence O’Donnell to discuss why fmr. Trump White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony “goes right to Donald Trump and his state of mind” leading up to, during and after the attack on the Capitol.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Almost everybody around Trump will go to prison for one reason or another, I find it hard to believe that all his coconspirators will end up in prison for life and he does not. If he doesn't, he will claim innocence, call it a witch hunt and quickly gather a new crew of fools and suckers and run for office again, just to raise money and take revenge, if he wins look out! It would mean the end of the rule of law and Garland too, for he would be the one who ended it for no legal reason. If he didn't indict Trump, it would be for political reasons and the DOJ would be no better than when Barr ran it. I don't expect indictments for most of this shit until after the election, but the J6 panel sure gave the DOJ a lot of threads they can pull on to unravel everything down to the smallest detail.

At this point not to indict Trump would to be an accessory after the fact and an obstruction of justice. Even the Whitehouse counsel could be indicted, none of these people spoke out against the big lie after January 6th. They continued to support an ongoing criminal conspiracy and financial fraud, as Trump raised a quarter billion using wire and mail fraud. I see no other choice but to indict Trump and if indicted he will be convicted in DC for serious federal crimes, there is nothing short of a presidential pardon that can save him from the sentence of a judge. I dunno where they will confine him, but it will need to be high security, Donald has a large domestic terrorist following and the judge and jury will receive thousands of death threats during his trial. There is a large terrorist organization in America called the republican party and he has a cult like following, so when he croaks they might have to bury him at sea, like Osama.
 

GoatSoup

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We can only hope the DOJ will actually do Justice to Meddows, Rudy, Eastman, and the rest of the clown car clowns. If nothing else Garland can make the clowns spend their money on Lawyers as they try to stay out of jail. But he has to indite and procecute sometime, why not NOW????
State of Mind is no defense, sedition is a felony, False elector are felons just no unindited, Why Garland, WHY???????
 

Herb & Suds

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We can only hope the DOJ will actually do Justice to Meddows, Rudy, Eastman, and the rest of the clown car clowns. If nothing else Garland can make the clowns spend their money on Lawyers as they try to stay out of jail. But he has to indite and procecute sometime, why not NOW????
State of Mind is no defense, sedition is a felony, False elector are felons just no unindited, Why Garland, WHY???????
Bank that if the GQP takes back congress and the senate they will impeach Biden for breathing
They have no principles
 

MickFoster

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All of you guys assume that Garland is doing nothing and that he is relying on the information provided by the J6 panel.
I doubt this is true.
The DOJ doesn't release information to anybody about an investigation.........my guess is that they're deep into it already and we're not privy to that info.
We won't even know who appears before a grand jury, or when.
 

Herb & Suds

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All of you guys assume that Garland is doing nothing and that he is relying on the information provided by the J6 panel.
I doubt this is true.
The DOJ doesn't release information to anybody about an investigation.........my guess is that they're deep into it already and we're not privy to that info.
We won't even know who appears before a grand jury, or when.
Well sorta
If they are under investigation they are notified
And not many of the loud and proud right wingers would keep their mouths shut and would be crying victimhood
So I still have doubts but unlike the radicals I believe in things evolving
So I remain optimistic
 

MickFoster

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Well sorta
If they are under investigation they are notified
And not many of the loud and proud right wingers would keep their mouths shut and would be crying victimhood
So I still have doubts but unlike the radicals I believe in things evolving
So I remain optimistic
I disagree.......the DOJ isn't obligated to notify anyone who is under investigation.
I doubt Jeffrey Clark and John Eastman were aware ahead of time that the FBI would be knocking on their door in the early hours to confiscate phones and computers.
 

hanimmal

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Good morning cultist troll.

How's the daily circle jerk and virtue signalling going today?
lmao better than the 'I barely knew her' spam that the right wing propaganda trolls have been trying to make stick.

Trump in prison yet?
This is not Trump's DoJ or Putin's Russia man, if he ends up in prison, there will be a trial and everything first, and even then 12 American jurors will be the ones to decide his fate.

Right now though Trump's shitty actions in his attempted insurrection are being dragged out into the open by the bi-partisan congressional hearings. That is good enough for now IMO.
 

jsatch

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Good morning cultist troll.


lmao better than the 'I barely knew her' spam that the right wing propaganda trolls have been trying to make stick.

This is not Trump's DoJ or Putin's Russia man, if he ends up in prison, there will be a trial and everything first, and even then 12 American jurors will be the ones to decide his fate.

Right now though Trump's shitty actions in his attempted insurrection are being dragged out into the open by the bi-partisan congressional hearings. That is good enough for now IMO.
So..


not in prison?
 
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printer

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So..

not in prison?
Now what is the point of this post? You obviously know it will take time to let the justice system work. So you are just trolling. As you have been this whole time.

When I heard Trump wanted to go to the Capital I gave him a little more credit than I normally give him. I would have loved to have seen the result of that. The lunging at the steering wheel? I really can not see that tubby old man being capable of that. Mind you in extreme situations I guess it could be possible. Tossing his food? Why not? I found this article interesting on whether the president has freedom of his movements.


Presidential protection or abduction? Secret Service wrong for all the right reasons on Jan. 6
The sixth hearing of the House Select Committee on the Jan. 6 riot finally fulfilled the media’s billing as “must-see TV.” Indeed, at points, the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson, a former top aide to then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, sounded like a cable-series episode of “When Presidents Attack.” She alleged that an enraged Donald Trump threw his lunch against a White House wall, an allegation Trump denies.

But the hearing’s grabber came when Hutchinson testified that she was told that Trump became physical with his Secret Service security team, trying to force them to drive him to Capitol Hill as the riot unfolded.

Hutchinson’s testimony offers an explanation for a long-standing mystery: Why did Trump repeatedly say he would go to Capitol Hill with his supporters but then decided to return to the White House? Hutchinson’s surprising answer: He didn’t decide.

According to her second-hand account from people in the presidential limo, known as “The Beast,” Trump intended to do exactly what he promised and ordered the Secret Service to take him to the Capitol. But Tony Ornato, White House deputy chief of staff for operations, and Bobby Engel, who headed Trump’s security detail, reportedly refused.

Hutchinson said Ornato asked her, “Did you f-ing hear what happened in The Beast?'” She then repeated Ornato’s account:

“So once the president had gotten into the vehicle with Bobby, he thought that they were going up to the Capitol, and when Bobby had relayed to him, ‘We’re not, you don’t have the assets to do it, it’s not secure, we’re going back to the West Wing,’ the president had a very strong, very angry response to that … [Trump] said something to the effect of, ‘I’m the f-ing president, take me up to the Capitol now.’ To which Bobby responded, ‘Sir, we have to go back to the West Wing.’ The president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. Mr. Engel grabbed his arm and said ‘Sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel, we’re going back to the West Wing. We’re not going to the Capitol.’ … [Trump] then used his free hand to lunge towards Bobby Engel, and when Mr. Ornato had recounted this story to me, he had motioned toward his clavicles.”

Stunning though the allegation was, several media reports cite “a source close to the Secret Service” as denying the claim of a physical altercation and offering to have Engel or another official testify to that under oath.

Even if true, that still leaves the main allegation — that the Secret Service effectively made the President of the United States a captive and refused his repeated, direct orders on where to take him.....
 
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