January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

For historical purposes….


Here’s the ‘money shot’:

Rep. “Raskins”…explained to her that she was there as a witness in support of Second Amendment gun rights—which would allow everyone at all times to carry weapons, of all kinds, anywhere they please—including the Capitol building.

He then leaked a little bit of wisdom to Ms. Greene explaining that considering that on Jan. 6, while “lots of people were armed that day,” by her “logic” everybody could have had a weapon as they stormed the Capitol building, attacked law enforcement, and searched for members of the legislative branch and Vice President Pence.

Rep. Greene, in what has now become a trademarked posture for her, attempted and failed to clap back at Raskin by asking him what “evidence” he had that anyone was armed on Jan. 6, to which Rep. Raskin smiled and responded: “Oh, just wait for it. But when it comes out, presumably you’ll be supporting it, right?”

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*That* was a short wait.

The army needs to step in, he's still a general in the US army, even if retired, he's a fucking traitor to the US constitution. This brain dead cocksucker needs to be court-martialed on TV, formally stripped of rank and insignia in full dress uniform on national TV, they have a procedure and ceremony for that too.
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Flynn Pleads Fifth When Asked About Peaceful Transfer Of Power
148 views Jun 28, 2022 Former Trump National Security Adviser Michael Flynn pleaded the Fifth when asked about the morality and legality of the violence on Jan. 6 at the Capitol and the peaceful transfer of power in the United States.

Flynn does not have a pardon, Roger Stone, Rudy, Meadows and family members have pardons, Donald can't pardon himself.

Giuliani, Meadows Suggested Interest In Presidential Pardon Related To Jan. 6: Hutchinson

DIY-HP-LED said:

Flynn does not have a pardon, Roger Stone, Rudy, Meadows and family members have pardons, Donald can't pardon himself.

Giuliani, Meadows Suggested Interest In Presidential Pardon Related To Jan. 6: Hutchinson

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Meadows sure damn needs a pardon. Let's see if it stands, if SCOTUS allows a presidential pardon for a future criminal act or acts to be committed.

MickFoster said:

None of his temper tantrums surprise me at all.........but that's not against the law.........and in the scheme of things not important.
Except to reinforce our hatred for him.........his followers won't change their mind about him.

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Will not mater too much if he goes to jail even if many think he should. The point is to back the country away from changing into a fascist regime, something that the US can become even without Trump. With someone in the position and without Trump's weaknesses might be able to pull it off next time. The hearings are important in order to put guardrails in place so it does not happen next time. Why the quick hearing? Maybe they have a full slate coming up, maybe they wanted her to testify before she changed her mind? Who knows? Well, maybe the J6 committee. And it is not like they are a panel of dummies.

MickFoster said:

I enjoyed it and I applaud her bravery, but there was nothing earth shaking.........a little disappointed.
I didn't see the reason for the emergency session.

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That is simply the testimony to put him in jail. Every necessary element of a crime is detailed, mental state, conduct, concurrence, and causation. Garland's prosecutors have no choice. He will be indicted for federal crimes as well as prosecution by the State of Georgia.

It didn't surprise you that TFG would try to choke his secret service agent or throw plates or sweep linen and all on the floor like a tantrum from a 3 yr old?

I know it actually surprises nobody. Your comment represents the decay of law and order and justice. It appears we've come to expect that from a president or at least a Republican one.

Cassidy is going to need the witness protection program, the klantards will want to kill her.

Offmymeds said:

That is simply the testimony to put him in jail. Every necessary element of a crime is detailed, mental state, conduct, concurrence, and causation. Garland's prosecutors have no choice. He will be indicted for federal crimes as well as prosecution by the State of Georgia.

It didn't surprise you that TFG would try to choke his secret service agent or throw plates or sweep linen and all on the floor like a tantrum from a 3 yr old?

I know it actually surprises nobody. Your comment represents the decay of law and order and justice. It appears we've come to expect that from a president or at least a Republican one.

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A president that really believes the election was stolen, that he really was saving the US? All wring to the point of him not being fit for office again but it will be tough to convict a former US president with ten people on a jury that are open minded. More luck from Georgia I would think. As one Republican has said, so far they have hearsay, if they had someone that was in the room to testify the J6 committee would fall all over themselves to get them to testify.

Offmymeds said:

That is simply the testimony to put him in jail. Every necessary element of a crime is detailed, mental state, conduct, concurrence, and causation. Garland's prosecutors have no choice. He will be indicted for federal crimes as well as prosecution by the State of Georgia.

It didn't surprise you that TFG would try to choke his secret service agent or throw plates or sweep linen and all on the floor like a tantrum from a 3 yr old?

I know it actually surprises nobody. Your comment represents the decay of law and order and justice. It appears we've come to expect that from a president or at least a Republican one.

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None of her testimony will be enough for the DOJ to indict him on anything.........1/2 of what she testified was hearsay. Which sounds very damning at a hearing, but is not evidence, or even allowed as testimony in court. Acting out like a juvenile looks bad, and certainly unbecoming behavior for any adult, let alone the POTUS........but it's not evidence of anything illegal.

Garland has more to consider than just having enough evidence to proceed with an indictment. There are political ramifications, and his biggest consideration will be what effect the prosecution of a former POTUS will have on our country. I would love to see the fat ass go to prison and live to be 120 while in prison........but I don't think it will happen.

How does my comment represent the decay of law and order and justice?

printer said:

A president that really believes the election was stolen, that he really was saving the US? All wring to the point of him not being fit for office again but it will be tough to convict a former US president with ten people on a jury that are open minded. More luck from Georgia I would think. As one Republican has said, so far they have hearsay, if they had someone that was in the room to testify the J6 committee would fall all over themselves to get them to testify.

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They have everything they need to present a picture to the public and set the DOJ and grand juries loose to paint the picture in fine detail. These hearings give Garland all the evidence he needs to begin and a ton of political and public cover to prosecute their asses, it also puts white hot heat on him to do it. Once indicted Donald is fucked, he will be tried in DC by a mostly black jury would be my guess and he committed many separate crimes and they can't try him for the same crime twice, so they won't roll too many charges into one. Then there's Georgia and that trial will be on TV, like all their trials are.

MickFoster said:

None of her testimony will be enough for the DOJ to indict him on anything.........1/2 of what she testified was hearsay. Which sounds very damning at a hearing, but is not evidence, or even allowed as testimony in court. Acting out like a juvenile looks bad, and certainly unbecoming behavior for any adult, let alone the POTUS........but it's not evidence of anything illegal.

Garland has more to consider than just having enough evidence to proceed with an indictment. There are political ramifications, and his biggest consideration will be what effect the prosecution of a former POTUS will have on our country. I would love to see the fat ass go to prison and live to be 120 while in prison........but I don't think it will happen.

How does my comment represent the decay of law and order and justice?

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Sorry, it wasn't meant as a criticism of you. I meant to point out that TFG could be shown to have planned, coordinated, and acted out a crime that caused deaths and people just shrug.

DIY-HP-LED said:

Flynn does not have a pardon, Roger Stone, Rudy, Meadows and family members have pardons, Donald can't pardon himself.

Giuliani, Meadows Suggested Interest In Presidential Pardon Related To Jan. 6: Hutchinson

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I don't think Rudy or Meadows got them

MickFoster said:

None of her testimony will be enough for the DOJ to indict him on anything.........1/2 of what she testified was hearsay. Which sounds very damning at a hearing, but is not evidence, or even allowed as testimony in court. Acting out like a juvenile looks bad, and certainly unbecoming behavior for any adult, let alone the POTUS........but it's not evidence of anything illegal.

Garland has more to consider than just having enough evidence to proceed with an indictment. There are political ramifications, and his biggest consideration will be what effect the prosecution of a former POTUS will have on our country. I would love to see the fat ass go to prison and live to be 120 while in prison........but I don't think it will happen.

How does my comment represent the decay of law and order and justice?

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It is true this alone will not tip the balance. But trumpf cares more about his appearance than anything else. Everyone knows he is spoiled brat who throws food on the wall when he doesn't get his way. His tough guy image is all he has with the maga base. And that is gone.

DIY-HP-LED said:

They have everything they need to present a picture to the public and set the DOJ and grand juries loose to paint the picture in fine detail. These hearings give Garland all the evidence he needs to begin and a ton of political and public cover to prosecute their asses, it also puts white hot heat on him to do it. Once indicted Donald is fucked, he will be tried in DC by a mostly black jury would be my guess and he committed many separate crimes and they can't try him for the same crime twice, so they won't roll too many charges into one. Then there's Georgia and that trial will be on TV, like all their trials are.

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A presidential command to do nothing during a riot isn't hearsay. She had communication with another person (Ornato, Ithink) that was told directly by TFG to do nothing about the riot. Ornato can be forced to testify under oath if he hasn't already. Hopefully Holder's crew got good evidence as well. He got Eric saying it out loud.

These hearings are designed to make a public case, while collecting evidence and sworn testimony to use in legislative changes. Grand juries will follow up and those who refuse to testify before congress, will testify before them and in court or plead the 5th. Those with pardons are an open book with no rights of self incrimination. If they can't bust Trump, then they can't convict anybody in America.
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Rep. Raskin Says Trump ’Had Violence Within His Sights’ On Jan. 6
37,741 views Jun 28, 2022 Rep. Jamie Raskin said former President Trump's actions showed that he was “willing to do anything to overthrow the presidential election of 2020.”

Pat Cipollone needs to testify. "We're going to get charges of every crime possible." Staff security knew it, Federal security knew it. The WH lawyers knew it, TFG was told directly by them. His son said it out loud to a film crew.

There is no system of law and order if TFG isn't prosecuted. There will be no democracy any longer.

Look who's turning on Trump for some reputation laundering! The rats are jumping off the SS (Shit Show) Trumptanic, as it goes down.
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A former Trump White House chief of staff says the latest January 6 hearing provided 'stunning' new evidence of potential criminality

• Mick Mulvaney served as the acting White House Chief of Staff from 2019 to 2020.
• He resigned from a position as US Special Envoy for Northern Ireland after the January 6 insurrection.
• Mulvaney said testimony from a former White House aide posed a "serious problem" for Trump.

A former White House aide's testimony that Donald Trump knew some protesters were armed before they marched to the US Capitol — and that his own top advisors asked for pardons after the January 6 riot — combined to make Tuesday's congressional hearing on the insurrection a "very, very bad day" for the former president, according to a onetime Trump loyalist.

"A stunning 2 hours," Mick Mulvaney posted on Twitter following the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson, a former aide to Mark Meadows, who succeeded Mulvaney as Trump's White House chief of staff.

Mulvaney listed four reasons why the hearing by the congressional committee investigating January 6 was so damning, citing the sworn testimony of Hutchinson: that "Trump knew the protesters had guns"; that he grabbed the wheel of his presidential vehicle when told that Secret Service would not take him to the US Capitol; that there appeared to be "a line" connecting the Trump White House to the far-right Proud Boys; and that his own aides — including Meadows and personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani — sought pardons in the aftermath of the attack.