January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

Budley Doright

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YES. The important thing with *any* prosecution or investigation is to CONNECT THE DOTS…which may be why they started with Barr’s OFFICIAL assessment that the election had been LOST, not stolen - which makes *every* effort, by anyone, to push the narrative that the election WAS stolen questionable at best - and seditious/treasonous in effect. The line of culpability begins with Trump knowing that he lost, and setting out to change that. Every subsequent unlawful act in pursuit of that change is in Trump’s lap.

The purpose of both the investigation and the hearings is to separate the threads, untangle the snarls, and determine who did what, and in service to what person or end…and to lay out the story for our self-governing citizens, in whom ultimate authority rests. The DOJ will see to it that those lines of accountability result in specific legal actions against specific individuals and organizations for specific acts against the nation and against our elected government.

To quote the Wicked Witch of the West, “these things must be done *delicately*, or you hurt the spell”….
Well then I assume all those that had a hand in it are pooping their depends ….. good!
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Well then I assume all those that had a hand in it are pooping their depends ….. good!
Donald's freaking out has just begun and it will grow more frantic as the walls closing in get tighter. Even flying off to Moscow has become a major problem now that war has started and any Russian money he was getting has long since dried up. The only part of his downfall that will be public, will be his trial in Georgia that will be on TV, as all trials there are, perhaps this summer and that promises to be a real 3 ring circus. Federal trials are not broadcast generally. So perhaps we might see Donald on a TV trial in Georgia, while under federal indictment for conspiracy and he might be declaring bankruptcy, all at the same time.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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It sends a message to those who voted for Trump: You were fools, motivated by bigotry and fear, duped by an obvious psychopath and certifiable moron. You were wrong about everything and every argument you made to friends and relatives was based on a lie, you look like an idiot to anybody not in your cult. You're are moral failures who betrayed the country and constitution and persist in still doing so. Accept the truth, learn and move on, or remain a fool who has learned nothing from your life experience. The truth will set you free, from Donald's evil spell, so time for the scales to drop from your eyes and to see the light of truth shining brightly. The baggage of bigotry is getting harder the bear, especially when you carry Trump on your back too.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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If convicted of conspiracy to overthrow the government, legislation should be introduced to deny him his presidential pension and the US prison service can replace the secret service security for the period of his incarceration, which should be much cheaper when he is in a cell behind thick walls. If they want, they can have the agents with bad backs and knee injuries shove his food tray trough the grub hatch in his cell door. Then they can sit at the desk outside his sound proofed cell door surfing the web and watching Donald go nut's (with the volume turned down) on the monitor.
 

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Jarod Kushner's pardon palooza will be damaging to both Donald Trump and to Kushner himself
7,158 views Jun 11, 2022 In a surprising reveal at the first January 6 select committee public hearing we learned that former President Donald Trump's son-in-law Jarod Kushner was busy "trying to get out" as many pardons as possible before Trump left office. We also learned that several Republican members of Congress sought pardons for their conduct in connection with the insurrection.

This video discusses the implications of these revelations.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Anybody who is indicted and pulls out a secret pocket pardon will have it respected, while they are cleaned out on a grand jury witness stand with no 5th amendment protections. Then they will be indicted later and the corrupt pardon challenged, pardons were a reward for the crimes they committed for Trump. Meanwhile those with pardons will testify against the pissed off suckers who didn't get a pardon because they will have no 5th amendment protection. Even if their own testimony is not used to convict them in the future, others who they ratted out will, while dressed in orange. This is going to cost everybody involved dearly financially and ruin many financially who are not even indicted.

A lot of people are looking at 20 to life for this vast conspiracy, serious time if they were in any way a party to it. It depends on how broad a net the DOJ casts. There are as many or more involved in the various schemes and plots of the hub and spoke election conspiracy, than were involved in sacking the capitol. From the state houses to the congress and white house, including the fake electors and their enablers in the state houses, there must have been a thousand of the fuckers, more if you include those working to overturn the election in some states with bogus audits.

Donald is gonna take a lot of assholes with him when he goes down, it will be like a giant enema for the American body politic, if Garland is serious. Then there are the civil suits over all this shit and anybody convicted of the conspiracy will be liable for the damages, punitive damages too. This will go on for years, consume lives and fortunes and financially ruin those even peripherally involved, but not indicted. As each cooperating witness cracks wide open, they have to reveal any other crimes they participated in or have knowledge of, some will make deals for the crimes of other republicans who were not involved in J6.

How many crimes does the average republican politician have knowledge of? :lol:
The prosecutors will have to work shifts FFS and the process could take a long time!
 

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John Dean identifies potential witnesses who could turn on Trump over Jan. 6
150,921 views Jun 11, 2022 John Dean, who was former President Nixon's White House counsel and testified against Nixon about the Watergate scandal, discusses the Jan. 6 hearings and if there's a potential key witness that could turn against former President Trump.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I wonder what will happen if Clarence Thomas's wife is busted as part of a large hub and spoke conspiracy, along with Trump and his henchmen! I think the democrats will hold an impeachment hearing for Thomas anyway, if they retain control of the house in November and could recommend an indictment against her over J6. Her texts will convict her. Clarence should really retire, he's getting too old for this shit. Roberts would shit a brick, if he had to be a witness at an impeachment hearing and have the court's decisions and opinions publicly dissected by the judiciary committee. Significant democratic majorities in the house and especially the senate, should put the fear of Jesus into some conservative justices.
 

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89,542 views Jun 11, 2022 Former Federal Prosecutor Glenn Kirschner says Donald Trump and Lindsey Graham will likely be indicted in the Georgia probe into illegal activity during the 2020 election.
 

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GOP governor says Trump is ‘politically, morally responsible’ for Jan. 6
Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson (R) on Sunday said former President Trump is “politically, morally responsible” for the Jan. 6 riot last year and called for Republicans to do some “soul-searching” after the attack on the U.S. Capitol.

Hutchinson told “Fox News Sunday” guest host Brett Baier that while he did not believe Trump was criminally responsible for Jan. 6, he does think the former president shares blame for the insurrection.

“Trump is politically, morally responsible for much of what has happened, but in terms of criminal liability, I think the committee has a long way to go to establish that,” the governor said of the House select panel investigating Jan. 6.

The panel held its first June public hearing last week with a plan to hold three more this week. Taken together, lawmakers on the committee say the hearings will show Trump was at the center of the Jan. 6 uprising and culpable for the storming of the U.S. Capitol to overturn certification of the 2020 election.

Republicans who have spoken out against Trump in opposition to election fraud in 2020 or against Jan. 6 have so far drawn his ire, including Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) who is the vice chair of the committee. She was stripped of her congressional leadership post as a result.

The Arkansas governor said Jan. 6 was a “costly error” for democracy and called for the Republican party to try and understand what happened that day and learn from it.

“Republicans need to do a lot of soul searching as to what is the right thing here and what is the right thing for our democracy in the future,” Hutchinson said, “and not simply adhere to the basic instincts of some of our base.”
 

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AOC asks Gaetz, Boebert and Greene if they requested pardons
27,216 views Jun 12, 2022 Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) tells Dana Bash that every member of Congress should be able to answer whether they asked the Trump White House for a presidential pardon. #CNN #News
 

Budley Doright

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89,542 views Jun 11, 2022 Former Federal Prosecutor Glenn Kirschner says Donald Trump and Lindsey Graham will likely be indicted in the Georgia probe into illegal activity during the 2020 election.
Well how long does this take? I’ve been part of the US justice system twice and once was so fast I was infront of a judge in his home office at 11pm that night :(. State trooper drove me there, both very nice guys lol. The second was 2 days then judge then escorted to border and told never to return lol. Again met some nice people :). Sure seems the cogs of justice are moving a lot slower these days lol
 
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Republican lawmaker slams Trump for Jan. 6: ‘You gotta speak up and take charge, and he did not’
Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) slammed former President Trump on Sunday, saying he failed to stop the rioting on Jan. 6, 2021, and end the violence at the U.S. Capitol.

“The president had the opportunity for over three hours to speak up, and I think it was negligence. He should have done better,” Bacon, a former wing commander in the Air Force, told host Chuck Todd on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

“The American people are going to have to judge this for themselves, whether it’s charging someone for a crime or not,” he added. “But we have to judge it from a political standpoint, and I think the American people by and large know it was wrong not to intervene and say something.”

Bacon voiced criticism of Trump before for the Jan. 6 rioting, when a pro-Trump mob stormed the U.S. Capitol to overturn certification of the 2020 election, and joined calls for a bipartisan committee to investigate the attempted insurrection.

Bacon said on Sunday that Trump’s rhetoric and temperament disillusioned Americans and were a primary factor for the former president’s loss in the 2020 election.

Bacon also said he will not vote for Trump in a primary election if he were to run for president in 2024, and neither should other Republicans.

“We need someone who has conservative policies, but I think we have to acknowledge the American people don’t like name-calling, they don’t like the rude behavior,” Bacon said. “They like folks who treat people respectfully, and I think that’s what cost President Trump in 2020.”

“We should take that as a lesson,” Bacon added. “Conservative values with optimism, respectable behaviors like [former President] Reagan. I think that’s what we should be embracing.”
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The law applies to all civil wars and civil warriors, even today's cold civil war ones, all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC. It doesn't matter how many fools believe the obvious lies, in a court of law and under oath facts matter, what brainwashed fools believe or want to believe, does not matter.
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How The Legal Legacy Of The Civil War Applies To the January 6 Attack
33,523 views Jun 11, 2022 Michael Beschloss, NBC News presidential historian, and Chai Komanduri, former advisor to President Obama, discuss how the legal legacy of the Civil War applies to the January 6th attack on the Capitol and how to communicate the magnitude of January 6th in a politically charged atmosphere.
 

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Documentarian who testified about Jan. 6 says crew was aware they had filmed ‘multiple crimes’
The documentary filmmaker who testified last week about the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol said on Sunday that he and his crew were aware they had filmed “multiple crimes” when they followed the far-right militia Proud Boys during the rioting for a documentary about division in America.

Nick Quested told NBC’s “Meet the Press” host Chuck Todd that he saw crimes “on the steps of the Capitol” and “inside the Capitol.”

After filming the events of Jan. 6, when a pro-Trump mob stormed the U.S. Capitol in an attempt to overturn certification of the 2020 election, Quested decided to cooperate with law enforcement.

 
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