injinji
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100% agree. It is a real shame there wasn't some way to get a panel with equal numbers from each side. Why didn't someone try to get that through the Senate? Oh wait. . . . Never mind.
January 6th, 2021
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injinji
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On You Tube? I'm pretty sure I watched a lot of those videos. Here is a couple of good ole boys who went back to the scene of the crime.
Three Berries
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Why Bidan lets who know what terrorist into the country as we speak! You go on about a Hollywood endeavor that will soon be exposed for what it is. Reduced to harassing private citizens.
And Ray Erps was on the FBIs most wanted list!
Ray Epps, A Fed Who Started January 6 Riot, Was From The FBI ‘MOST WANTED’’ List! - The True Defender !
Kentucky Congressman Thomas Massie, this Thursday on his hearing, attacked General Merrick Garland about the mystery man, Ray Epps, the main suspect of inciting the January 6 riot. Join The True Defender Telegram Chanel Here: https://t.me/TheTrueDefender I questioned Attorney General Garland...
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Tangerine_
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
hanimmal
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How did not pointing out the trolls work out in 2016?
Thank you for the heads up.
H G Griffin
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What does pointing them out have to do with engaging with every piece of idiocy they post?
Pointing them out is saying "You are a troll and therefore not worth further response." The last six or so pages have not been "pointing out" a troll, it has been treating them as if they are here to discuss the issue, and thereby giving them some degree of credibility, IE empowering them.
For a less harmful example, look at the "flat earth" fools. They were in their little corner, spouting their crap, and then some people started responding to them. These responses were generally mockeries, but that didn't matter, it increased the reach of the original idiocy and helped the movement grow.
CunningCanuk
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After a long day of working in the garden, making fun of trumptards is a nice way to unwind.
Roger A. Shrubber
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what a cocksucking, miserable, stinkin' cunt....
there...did i get it or can i guess some more?
Roger A. Shrubber
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with room left over
Roger A. Shrubber
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we're bored...we grow weed and hang out at the house...or at least i do...with nothing better to do than tell fuckface asshole trolls, "hey, you're a fuckface asshole troll"....it's kind of satisfying to tell a cocksucking liar that they're a cocksucking liar...and it's interesting to see where he'll go next, kind of an insight into mental illness, A.K.A. the republican party under trump
CatHedral
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Get creative!
hanimmal
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I would point out that by not engaging a second sock puppet they will just set up their own 'arguments' that create the same noise.
Pretending otherwise (that somehow if you don't engage it goes away) has not worked. They need to be drowned out until the social media platforms figure out that people are sick of the advertising that they are getting with the spam trolls.
The needles in the haystack are the real people, and it is figuring that out before writing them off as another in the endless line of paid propagandist socks is the trick IMO.
DIY-HP-LED
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‘Almost schizophrenic’: Judge rips DOJ approach to Jan. 6 prosecutions
Chief District Court Judge Beryl Howell criticized “petty offense” plea deals for defendants who she said tarnished America’s reputation in the world.
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‘Almost schizophrenic’: Judge rips DOJ approach to Jan. 6 prosecutions
Chief District Court Judge Beryl Howell criticized “petty offense” plea deals for defendants who she said tarnished America’s reputation in the world.
A federal judge thrashed the Justice Department on Thursday for offering “petty offense” plea deals to Jan. 6 defendants who she said tarnished America’s reputation in the world and enabled violent rioters to threaten the peaceful transfer of power — even if they committed no violence themselves.
Beryl Howell, the chief judge of the federal District Court in Washington, D.C., said prosecutors appeared “almost schizophrenic” in describing the insurrection in extreme terms but then settling for second-tier misdemeanor plea agreements with dozens of defendants.
“This is a muddled approach by the government,” said Howell, an appointee of President Barack Obama. “I’m trying to make sense of the government’s position here.”
Howell then made clear that she considered all participants in the Jan. 6 Capitol breach — which the Justice Department now estimates at 2,000 to 2,500 people — enablers of an assault against the republic.
“The damage to the reputation of our democracy, which is usually held up around the world … that reputation suffered because of Jan. 6,” Howell said, noting that the mob chased lawmakers and Vice President Mike Pence into hiding, and sent staffers ducking under their desks for cover.
“The rioters attacking the Capitol on Jan. 6 were not mere trespassers engaging in protected First Amendment conduct or protests,” Howell added. “They were not merely disorderly, as countless videos show the mob that attacked the Capitol was violent. Everyone participating in the mob contributed to that violence.”
Howell’s harsh words for the Justice Department came as she sentenced Jack Griffith of Tennessee to three years probation for breaching the Capitol for about 10 minutes on Jan. 6 amid the broader attack. Prosecutors had asked for a three-month jail term for Griffith, who faced a maximum of six months on the charge he pleaded guilty to, of “parading” or demonstrating inside the Capitol.
Howell’s decision was a highly anticipated milestone in the wide-ranging prosecution of more than 700 Jan. 6 defendants. She has taken a leading role in pressing prosecutors to consider the broader threat to democracy that the riot presented when considering charges and punishment for participants. And her words, as the chief of the District Court blocks from the Capitol, often carry more weight than those of her colleagues. She has consistently expressed alarm and skepticism about prosecutors’ ginger language and approach to some of the initial cases before her court — and she attributed public “confusion” about the seriousness of the Capitol attack to the government’s approach.
“After all that scorching rhetoric ... the government goes on to describe the rioters who got through the police lines and got into the building as ‘those who trespassed,’” Howell said. “This was no mere trespass.”
The judge indicated she considered the sentence she imposed on Griffith relatively light, but said it was the result of prosecutors’ decisions to resolve his case and others. Howell said there was a disconnect between the nearly apocalyptic language prosecutors have used in court filings about the Jan. 6 attack and what she called the “most minimal” charges the government settled for in plea deals.
“I don’t think it’s any secret to say that federal judges rarely deal with Class B petty offenses. This is not our normal diet of criminal conduct,” Howell said, adding that such crimes are typically resolved with “a $50 ticket.”
Howell said there were indications that prosecutors had displayed “sort of an evolving, changing position” in their sentencing recommendations related to Jan. 6. But she noted that federal law requires judges to avoid unwarranted disparities when sentencing defendants for similar conduct.
Howell also noted that the decision to allow many defendants to plead to petty offenses essentially stripped judges of the ability to alter the $500 restitution the government has agreed to in those cases.
“From where I sit, my hands are tied with respect to restitution,” the judge said.
Howell noted that even if every rioter paid the $500, it would amount to about $300,000, which she called “barely a drop in the bucket.” She estimated that the total cost of the riot — based on government spending to reimburse law enforcement agencies and repair damage to the Capitol — exceeded $560 million.
At one point, the judge asked whether officials as high as Attorney General Merrick Garland had weighed in on the sentences to be pursued in Capitol riot cases.
“I’m not aware of the specifics of how plea agreements have been run up the chain. I know they have been,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Jamie Carter said.
During the lengthy sentencing hearing, Howell also emphasized that some of the judges have felt “played” by defendants who received light sentences by expressing remorse, only to recant after their cases were resolved. Howell specifically referenced the case of Anna Morgan-Lloyd, who took to Fox News after her sentence and said she didn’t witness any violence at the Capitol.
Morgan-Lloyd’s attorney Heather Shaner — who also represents Griffith — told Howell that Morgan-Lloyd was “played” by Fox host Laura Ingraham.
“It wasn’t a lack of remorse. It was her stupidity to go on that forum,” Shaner said of her client. “I felt humiliated, I felt betrayed.”
Griffith addressed Howell to express regret for his actions and suggest he never wished violence upon those in the Capitol — despite his embrace of pro-Trump election conspiracy theories and encouragement of those storming the building. But Howell said his contrition couldn’t be trusted, considering he has never repudiated his belief that the election was stolen and appeared driven to criminal conduct by misinformation.
“You’re not a lemming, Mr. Griffith,” she said. “You can think for yourself.”
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DIY-HP-LED
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‘They’re Running a Jail, Not a Hotel’: Judge Has Had It With Capitol Rioters Alleging Mistreatment
Federal prosecutors are arguing that a Proud Boys member complaining about a D.C. jail has "invented" many of his medical needs
DIY-HP-LED
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printer
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Trump looks to block 770 pages of records from Jan. 6 panel: court records
In a court document filed on Saturday, John Laster, who runs the National Archive’s White House Liaison Division, says the former president is looking to withhold a variety of files, including records from senior advisers, schedules, call logs and daily presidential diaries.
The filings came in response to a lawsuit Trump filed earlier this month seeking to block the Jan. 6 panel from obtaining records from his administration.
Trump is arguing that the committee has not demonstrated a legislative purpose for the documents that would override his assertion of executive privilege.
The White House has said it would not assert executive privilege to block the panel from accessing the records. In a letter to the National Archives on Monday, White House counsel Dana Remus said Trump’s claim of executive privilege is “not justified.”
The first batch of 46 records includes records of daily presidential diaries, drafts of speeches and remarks, and three handwritten notes from Trump’s former Chief of Staff Mark Meadows regarding Jan. 6.
The second batch of records, which includes 656 pages of documents, mainly includes pages of binders containing talking points from then- White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany regarding election fraud and the 2020 election. This batch also includes a draft of Trump’s speech for the Save American rally that preceded the riots, and a “daft Executive Order on the top of election integrity.”
Additionally, Trump is asserting privilege over a third batch of 68 records, which include a draft proclamation honoring Capitol Police and officers Brian Sicknick and Howard Liebengood, who died after the Jan. 6 riots.
The third batch also contained records relating to a potential lawsuit against states that President Biden won in 2020, and document concerning the “security of the 2020 presidential election and ordering various actions.”
thehill.com
In a court document filed on Saturday, John Laster, who runs the National Archive’s White House Liaison Division, says the former president is looking to withhold a variety of files, including records from senior advisers, schedules, call logs and daily presidential diaries.
The filings came in response to a lawsuit Trump filed earlier this month seeking to block the Jan. 6 panel from obtaining records from his administration.
Trump is arguing that the committee has not demonstrated a legislative purpose for the documents that would override his assertion of executive privilege.
The White House has said it would not assert executive privilege to block the panel from accessing the records. In a letter to the National Archives on Monday, White House counsel Dana Remus said Trump’s claim of executive privilege is “not justified.”
The first batch of 46 records includes records of daily presidential diaries, drafts of speeches and remarks, and three handwritten notes from Trump’s former Chief of Staff Mark Meadows regarding Jan. 6.
The second batch of records, which includes 656 pages of documents, mainly includes pages of binders containing talking points from then- White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany regarding election fraud and the 2020 election. This batch also includes a draft of Trump’s speech for the Save American rally that preceded the riots, and a “daft Executive Order on the top of election integrity.”
Additionally, Trump is asserting privilege over a third batch of 68 records, which include a draft proclamation honoring Capitol Police and officers Brian Sicknick and Howard Liebengood, who died after the Jan. 6 riots.
The third batch also contained records relating to a potential lawsuit against states that President Biden won in 2020, and document concerning the “security of the 2020 presidential election and ordering various actions.”
Trump looks to block 770 pages of records from Jan. 6 panel: court records
Former President Trump is looking to withhold 770 pages of documents from the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, according to court documents filed by the National…
thehill.com