by revenue, you mean the govt stealing money from you that they had nothing to do with you earning?
so let me break this down for y'all. social democrats merely wish to ignore the freedoms of the individual in order to support the fallacies of social equality. unbridled democracy, otherwise known as mob rule, operates solely on the theory of might makes right. it protects only those who have the numbers to force their agenda on others and opposes the concept of earned influence and the rights of the individual in general.Willyßagseed;6133752 said:
Actually that sounds more like tea party rallys at town hall meetings
no matter how you may try to twist it, you simply can't turn the tea party folks into the sort of rabid statists that use the flaws of democracy to build an ever more massive welfare state. while any rally can be seen as a mob, the difference in the messages between the tea party and the various populist throngs are always apparent. underlying all the idiots, folks like the ones who think liberal legislation will mean they never have to worry about their bills again or those who think a return to fundamental christian morality will solve the nation's ills, the major difference lies in the responsibility of the individual. the single most attractive aspect of conservatism is that it places so much of the responsibility for the success of society firmly on the choices of the individual. where modern liberalism has become a game of playing one group against another through the manipulation of the fears and despair of the dependent poorer classes, conservatism puts no restraints of the destiny of the individual other than those which naturally occur. where statist dogma presupposes the worst of the individual and seeks to reign in singular effort, placing it under the control of the state, its opposite claims no utopian future through central planning, but admits to the pains of normal life and revels in those challenges.
1 i dont have cable
Some even go as far as saying the Bush Tax cuts are unfunded SPENDING. lololol
Or we could Both Cut Spending and Increase Revenues to what they were Before the Bush Tax cuts. SInce our taxes are at the lowest rates in the last 60 years
they're called unfunded spending b/c they're accounted as 'tax expenditures' on the spending side of governmental accounting.
It's a good thing for our argument that you're absolutely WRONG, this country was never "founded as a democracy" and never will be a democracy. Sorry, try again.
Difference between amnesty and prioritizing cases
That's because the ONLY immigration reform we need to discuss is enforcing the laws we already have and getting EVERY illegal out of this country with or without deporting them. I like the idea of letting anyone turn in any employer for hiring illegals, knowingly or not. The reward is $50k, the fine is $100k, and yes the illegal immigrant working for the employer can turn the employer in for hiring the very same illegal. No employer would hire an illegal EVER AGAIN...problem solved. No work, they leave on their own dime.
Except he didn't just prioritize cases. That was the first executive order he signed. Then he signed another right before he snuck away on vacation that restricted deportations for just about every illegal in the country... so many exemptions it smacks of blanket amnesty. Dolt.
