Is this harvest delayed from issues?

This thread will be for when I am at last few weeks of flower and wondering if it is starting to fox tail or throw extra white hairs due to stress. I had ripe delayed by a long shot before and wonder if I should change light schedule or brightness to force finish.

I had dimmed led’s before to get foxtails to stop once. I heard if it is an auto you can 12/12 it to force finish. Please let me know what you think per post.

Plant in question, Auto seeds, GG4 Auto. In ffof soil 1 gal. 11 weeks into life cycle as of 10/4. Tap water high ph, so ph’d water, watered every third day and inoculated recharge every 7-10 days. Space lighting, ufo dimmed to almost off. 78F and 45rh is the enviorment most the time. Had leaf signs of deficiencies its whole life. 24/0 lighting its whole life.

In two weeks this should be done but want to start ahead of time asking if you think it is foxtailing or going to keep throwing white hairs past the 13 week mark? Is it growing fine and may ripen just fine in next two weeks?

Willing to check back but thought if I should be dimming lights now or planning early chop, etc, let me know what you would do.

Probably not two weeks. Could happen, but if she had deficiencies, I would let her go a little longer. Get a good magnifying glass and check the trichomes. I'm sure you have some cloudy trichs, but mostly clear ones.

Trichome close ups. All seem clear mostly, some cloudy.

Those pics were a week old as of today, these are from just now. I think it is actually throwing more white hairs or the same amount, I just thoufht they were slowing down. I thought I saw it slow down and now speed up again or I am just high.

So looks like it may continue to throw the same amount of hairs by week 13. Today is 11 weeks and 2 days into life cycle. Correction I water every other day, not third.

I worry about septoria. Botryatis I looked up to see that is budrot and mold. I worry about mold growing on the dead leaves so kinda anxious to chop. Plant doesn’t have a healthy shield against disease to run too much longer.

Would it help to mention I am pressing all this and not smoking it? That some undeveloped spots won’t matter much? Or would it? This coming wednesday is mark of 12 weeks alive.

Willing to wait two more weeks and see if I need two more weeks after that but I may cave in and chop right then and there. Paranoid of mold. So is this delayed from plant problems? Is it delayed from poor lighting? Should I put it on 12/12 or dim the lights? I am considering it. Is it foxtailing or just airy buds from poor lighting?

This auto was planted from sprout June 16 so this friday would be 17 weeks from seed and about 12 weeks into flower. Pistols first showed day 34 or 35. Does that make any difference? Maybe when they say they run autos for no longer than 12 or 13 weeks most strains they mean from first pistol shown?

Wow 17 weeks went by fast. Usually journals show people chopping around 12 or 13 weeks on other sites. Hard to find journals that are longer. I think that means my last auto was 21 weeks old which isnt too long but it is a stretch of time. I think I keep leaving out the prior vegging weeks.

I think it is about flower time since that is when buds are formed and will age and can age too much and run risks of other issues so I guess 12 weeks sounds right. Somethings wrong with this plant finishing up isnt there?

Get those dead sugar leaves out your colas

ProPheT 216 said:

Get those dead sugar leaves out your colas

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Normally absolutely would but I have been on the side of a learning curve with leaves dying out everywhere and heard if the leaf isnt completely toast then leave it as it will just pick another leaf to chew up. I lost most leaves and so the buds grew more sugar leaves and mini fan leafs to compensate and half of those are mostly toast.

In a situation like this it is easy being a new grower to just not know what to do but I could. I am trying to chop it asap though. Learning curve with soil with two plants in same situation but this one is extra larfy due to poor lighting which was ok with me. Coco I tend to keep green and pluck out any dying receding leafs.

Feel like if I do, all the remaining leafs will burn up and be in same situation in few weeks or less. My other plant I am just making a pile on floor to routinely empty out which I know not to leave dead leaves on ground but when they just keep coming…

I am tempted to do soil again with what I think I learned because if I can make it this far then something must be half way right with what I am doing.

Heck the other plant I am referring to is next on the list because of stress but I think the strain is a fast ripening indica that is easy to determine harvest unless it too throws extra white hairs due to stress. Thinking of letting it run longer like one said since it lost a lot of yield from loss of leafs but it is taking up space.

These two plants need be chopped asap. Taking up space.

Also, lol, what colas??? haha. I have a nug curing and it is receding into a little twig. Too airy to mold up. I hear ya though I had mold before pretty bad.

Keep the humidity down with good airflow and you shouldn’t have to worry about mold, though I would also cut out the dead leaves. I’ve never had an auto go anywhere near that long. They don’t look ready for harvest though.

Thinking of dimming lights and possibly putting it on 12/12 to be done by Oct 25. I have a replacement plant that will be starting flower in next two weeks to already be about a week into flowering or just starting to so maybe 3 weeks before I have plants backed up needing to be swapped and chopped.

That is the thing though, why is it taking longer, is it stress or poor lighting or both? Arent there sativa genetics that can cause it to take this long?

I just dimmed the lights half way and might start a dark cycle today. Shoot looking at it today it looks like the white hairs are slowing down but it can suddenly throw a bunch more.

Is it that the whole plant being larf just takes longer? I had a plant with larf I kept on and it just keept growing so wondering if that is related to this.

The same thing happening all over again, too many spots to cut which may threaten mold so I heard and to be careful with that but I get to plucking and it is hard not to cut more than just the leaf. Or even the leaf at all and just see a hundred more areas to snip and when I am only a couple weeks from chop…

I dont mind the concequences of chopping early, it is going to rosin anyway. I could try again another time but I have a replacement in coco and plan to have better growth this time. I feel like it takes a pro to snip all the dead areas, the stems of leafs still healthy and holding strong.

Ive just been here before, it simply just shouldnt get to this point. I just tried again, the tips just break off and cant get in there. Surely to damage stems to the buds. Wtf… Why is this such a pita.

Just tried AGAIN. This is really hard. I feel like I am going to cause damage man handling the buds just to get something that isnt that big a threat in this situation. The ones I do see possibly being a problem are the hardest to get.

Just gonna give it two weeks and put it on 12/12. I am amazed I got this far and if I yield 3-4 gs rosin that gets me high that would already be good enough for me.

Hoping the lighting isnt the problem but if this were coco I strongly feel I could make it go longer and yield more, maybe even have a propely ripened plant.

I was reading and my understanding of dead leaves in buds is that it doesnt cause bud rot it just provides food for mold because its shield against that when alive is down when it is dead. So if the enviorment is less favorable for mold that dead leaves are less a risk.

Maybe when I put it in darkness and the rh swings a little bit this could be a threat but if it chops a plant mostly orange in hairs Id think it is worth it.

When I had bud rot, I packed a plant so tight in a space it literally just condensated on istelf and was going to mold regarless of dead leafs or not, that there is more to budrot then just dead leaves. Correct me if I am wrong, just what I gathered from the more expirienced.

Sorry to chat a lot, this was the last I had to say about that. Hate being in this position and hope the poor lighting doesnt trigger the whole plant to grow as larf and like foxtails, just keep going.

medidedicated said:

Trichome close ups. All seem clear mostly, some cloudy.

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those are all clear.when its milky its whole body is milky what you see there is a reflection from the one next soo you think its milky

medidedicated said:

Normally absolutely would but I have been on the side of a learning curve with leaves dying out everywhere and heard if the leaf isnt completely toast then leave it as it will just pick another leaf to chew up. I lost most leaves and so the buds grew more sugar leaves and mini fan leafs to compensate and half of those are mostly toast.

In a situation like this it is easy being a new grower to just not know what to do but I could. I am trying to chop it asap though. Learning curve with soil with two plants in same situation but this one is extra larfy due to poor lighting which was ok with me. Coco I tend to keep green and pluck out any dying receding leafs.

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true old leafs can be used when the plant is starving but allsoo old leafs will develope mold crazy fast, on the end where it connects to the plant you will get black and after a few days it will become fuzzy.

amneziaHaze said:

those are all clear.when its milky its whole body is milky what you see there is a reflection from the one next soo you think its milky

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I heard it is a racy high when clear and I may of bought home grown once that was chopped early and loved the high, was dab like but maybe just me. This grow is super expiremental, low expectations.

medidedicated said:

I heard it is a racy high when clear and I may of bought home grown once that was chopped early and loved the high, was dab like but maybe just me. This grow is super expiremental, low expectations.

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high is amazing problem is it lasts 15min....i usually save popcorn and jar it seperatly soo i have the racy ones when the taste becomes regular soo i have a "palet clenser"

Putting it on 12/12 today and chopping in two weeks maybe 3. Isnt it genetic about clear vs cloudy? I know amber is but this other plant that is next in question soon has many cloudy trichs already.

Or I can just hang tight and keep it running as is for 3 more weeks. Neither of them would probably help with trichome appearance. I got another auto ready to go in the space which is also why I am pressured but then again I may have more time than I think. I would be 1 week into flower though already.

The 24/0 lighting might help keep conditions good to avoid mold. I havent gotten to harvest anything in a long time, the thought of mold is just forget about it. Trying to remember it is but isnt as easy to get mold as I think.

Other people should disagree if I’m wrong, but I don’t see what 12/12 will do to speed things up. It’s not like you need to initiate flowering. More light should result in faster development. I might go 20/4 or 18/6, but no need to go less than that. Imo.