Is this harvest delayed from issues?

Budzbuddha

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You can drop light cycle ( if you like ) to 10/14 and ride it out a bit longer. It makes no difference if its an auto ( because it is in late flower anyways ) so a drop in cycle may force finish it. It used to be a technique to bump stubborn / dragging plants by manipulating light and having plant think winter is coming.

Your autos do look like some things were happening but i would trim off all necrotic leaf. Especially at flower buds. If necrosis is allowed to go into bud it will mold.

Foxtails are not really a big deal as it can be a pheno trait.

Worse case - Auto stalled due to stress.
 

medidedicated

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Yeah I am just being anxious but will let it go another 2-3 weeks and wait for the hairs to stop or be mostly done. It will be a long 2-3 weeks. Like I said I just keep thinking it will stay like this for another 5 weeks which is not normal. My test bud will hold me off for a week to get a good taste of what is to come.

Hoping the rosin dont have that cloraphyl smell and taste from it not drying properly. This friday I am testing it with hygro meter to see if it is press able. So far it reaks of clorophyl. How ever you spell it.
 

medidedicated

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Cutting all those dead leaves are gonna be a pita and probably cause some stress and damage but if it is that risky continueing this way then so be it. I thought it was a result of infection and not rot. That even with living tissue it can still mold if the enviorment is more favorable for mold.
 

medidedicated

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For instance, my other plant in soil, here it is. Little over 7 weeks into flower. Not even at harvest window or ripe yet and it has cloudy trichs for one. For two, when you have dead leaves everywhere you can see, oh god.

Like do you just call it a lucky day and finish up or literally chop all its mini leaves off too and it wont just pick another spot to cannibalize? This one seems to be hinting to genetically be a fast finisher, looks like some strains I saw people grow here that the nugs just grow short bushy, and finish up, lower yield but the faster finish was attractive.
 

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medidedicated

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It is Super Shark, nugs on it have my mouth watering. Not hard to please. Have clones of it so I will get to see how it does, happier in coco. I really want to learn soil, I feel like I got close to figuring it out. What do these look like theyre suffering from???

Would really like to know what went wrong. My plant problems thread I dont think was ever conclusive. It helped stop the plants from dying but not sure about how this would go next time.

My guess is flushing made it worse, not adding recharge from beginning and tap water ph of 8.3 for too long not corrected. Once I watered more frequently the plant looked happier. Not adding kelp and / or other ammendments.
 

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medidedicated

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Tried my best to rid of half the areas. I think just selectively ridding of ones dead and receded into buds which it just isnt, they are so airy and lacking of leaf matter that it just doesnt seem like a huge risk. But just ridding the more threatening areas are probably good enough. I damaged a lot of buds from scissors hashing up and pulling hairs. So I stopped.
 

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obijohn

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Other people should disagree if I’m wrong, but I don’t see what 12/12 will do to speed things up. It’s not like you need to initiate flowering. More light should result in faster development. I might go 20/4 or 18/6, but no need to go less than that. Imo.
Agreed. It's called an auto because it flowers on its own. Giving it more dark will not affect flowering and could hinder the plants development
 

medidedicated

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I can keep trying to rid of dead leafs on the auto but the photo indica is tight. I can barely bend the bugs open to get to the leaf. How would you go about that? Just man handle it, am I just being timid?

And how many weeks on both plants before I can start asking how many more weeks till chop? The photo plant seems like it is almost done.

At this point I am nervous because some of you are about the dead leaves causing mold or else Id be cool and wait two more weeks and ask again. I do see people leave them and not get mold, hopefully there is more to it than just that.

I intend to stay proactive next time as doing one here and there isnt a problem but this feels like I am ransacking my yield close to chop for dead leafs, hope it makes a difference.
 
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medidedicated

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Pressure is on, allegedly a fast growing strain 65 days from seed we will see but pistols on day 23. Auto chemdog by auto seeds. Should chop gg4 in 2-3 weeks which I think will look much better at 14 weeks mark. Or else this auto will not fit in the cab.

Edit Yea I will pop the next bean a little later next time. The super shark says 9-10 weeks flower to take with grain of salt but because yield is small I think that along with maybe lucky pop of pheno that it was on time. It appears to be that is, minimal white hairs found and cloudy trichomes. Thinking of chopping SS in 2-3 weeks too. Screw that plant.

I feel like I am well past the window that is truely too early to harvest if I chop at 80-90% orange hairs meaning I should be happy with this but will try to harvest the way riu often likes to see, true full ripe. Some folks on here chop at these circumstances though. Heck this is a freak accident of success at this point.

Still let me know what you think, will update at chop two weeks from now. The dead leaves are part of the pressure to chop too. I know what you mean, buds are moist and leaf can mold but I dont have the skill to clip every dead leaf out.
 

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medidedicated

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Wow, so it is 60 indica 40 sativa then crossed with auto inhouse auto plant to rival Quick One or modern day lorider so its got a chunk of sativa genetics but.. Site says 75 days from seed which you cannot rely on but two weeks from now id be at 131 days from seed which is close to double.

Something aint right. And why push it to stack on the tiniest bit of extra bud when I could have a whole nother batch of weed in 2.5 months. Sativas taking 12 weeks to flower is t that much longer for it to be this delayed as a reason.

Just rather consider it a lesson and actually get something out of it as last time I had a 17 week long flowering plant that all molded that still had hairs after hairs in various spots but it had stress and desease. I was told 17 weeks!? Chop now! Potency will not improve from here.

Not trying to end up there again. I was there before and just cannot understand why this happens let alone half my growing expirience in flower.

Yayaya they dont follow calendars but something is just not right here. All the white hair spots yall saw Monday are ripening and much less new sites emerged so hopefully I can meet in the middle and take yalls advice and still suceed with a riu approved harvest. If it is slightly early then so be it for this run.

Just gonna edit: I decided to keep lights on for what was said and out of my own critical thinking of mold not liking light, airflow and consistant lower RH. As for the stalling, I saw this grow a consitent pace all its life, if anything it still is stalling and always was.

Also for my critical thinking I am yielding on the side of “this is close enough to be appropriate to harvest” if the hairs are 80-90% orange, seen it done and suggested. I would if you have stalling or plant issues like this.

This was cut with genetics meant to rival a fast growing strain marketed to growers for that reason although a bit more exaggerated. This is growing like a pure sativa in terms of ripening. A sick plant so why try to make it any better than that. No one said it was from poor lighting though and that all my autos will grow similar, hope not.

Edit jeez I just looked up my last journal, 24 weeks, 168 days before I chopped. An autoflower. This is 16 weeks. This is what I am talking about. People say they never run autos past 120 days or 12 weeks to avoid issues. Im giving it the chop in next week or too, sorry… Not to me thouh I think Ill love it!
 
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medidedicated

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Yea see, about today should be seeing about 90% orange hairs which I am. I can clearly see in pics and in person. So I think an end in sight! I was thinking of chopping asap but as I flip through my journal I am seeing buds grew at an ok pace for a later finisher. Or almost on time really.

At some point it works on 10% orange hairs ripening weekly. I can see yea at 50% it clealy has a ways to go but I can see it grow 10% orange weekly so I don’t think these are last minute hairs, I just got lost in the long process haha. If it throws more hairs in a week I am still chopping but I think it will be mostly orange hairs, 95% or 98%.

I just did some searching and per many sites this is a tactic to go by. Seeing amber on sugar leafs and more cloudy ones. Getting close. So each week is making a difference. Shoot, I am ichin to CHOP haha. It is soo close and think I am in the early window already according to other sites and people. I may chop at any moment.
 

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medidedicated

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Oh yea… I just bought an extra week of time, good. I will top the nodes again to make it alternate dominant branches to buy more time if needed. This one might grow too big. Thinking half gallon coco next time. Will see .
 

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medidedicated

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Should I be looking for soil drying back slower than usual or is that an effect that varies per person and plant? I never seen that before since I read that but these two plants, the super shark seems like it isnt drinking at all, still real wet when I water two days later and has been for a while, like a week or two or more.

The gg4 auto is throwing much less white hairs and the ones shown earlier are receding and today when watering it was dry enough to water but notably more wet than dry. Is this another sign? I did not get to see this in coco and never heard this before that so idk if it is something to go by as well.

edit heres pics of the super shark that was going to chop this friday too.
 

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