Dr.Pecker
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I'm not arguing about a flat earth, show me one example.
Is the World Flat? The Flatlander's theory..
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SunnyJim
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I wasn't talking about you, I was asking you.
Dr.Pecker
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I understand sorry, I though't it was directed at me because I seem to be getting attention even though nasa and some of the astrophysicist community is taking flack because of misconceptions. People are preprogrammed into thinking they live on a perfect sphere. Let me guess you had a globe in school or in your home now. Its wrong.
SunnyJim
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No worries. I was just trying to clarify the point at which you might call someone out for being an idiot.
Yes, if memory serves, there were globes in some of my elementary school classrooms. I have no need for a globe in my home today - I know where everything is, relatively speaking.
Dr.Pecker
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Can your son catch a fish and understand the circle of life? If he didn't catch the fish and just ate it, would he appreciate the same. Do they teach you about taking a life in school? Its been a while but I don't ever recall that subject.
reddan1981
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Finish with.. Penis
Dr.Pecker
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I already did it, I made some owls
Dr.Pecker
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If I did that they would like it too much.
Essentially one problem we have is people ask the same question over and over without doing any of the prerequisite work to be ready to understand the answer. The questioners then get offended by the facts they do not have the basis to understand.
Simply the scientist can explain it to you but they can't understand it for you. Without doing the prerequisite work the explanation is a waste of everyone's time. Then again in my day you couldn't start at Calculus first without addition, subtraction, etc.... Calculus would be a wasted class for you and the teacher. Back in my day we blamed the non-ready student, today I guess we blame the teacher. Just my musings, carry on.
Simply the scientist can explain it to you but they can't understand it for you. Without doing the prerequisite work the explanation is a waste of everyone's time. Then again in my day you couldn't start at Calculus first without addition, subtraction, etc.... Calculus would be a wasted class for you and the teacher. Back in my day we blamed the non-ready student, today I guess we blame the teacher. Just my musings, carry on.
cannabineer
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I could comment on this, but what is in it for me? I have just read four pages of Tyler patiently explaining stuff, and you turning his arguments away with dishonest rhetorical devices. I am not confident that you'd listen any better to my patient explainings, and I like you and don't want to get into a pissing match, so ... let's not and say we did.
Acknowledgement does not necessarily equal understanding.
cannabineer
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I disagree. The say they acknowledge the facts, but then present them distorted into being wrong or even ridiculous.
A key issue here is having a common frame of reference founded on shared intellectual principles. It is the bridgehead of consensus that is necessary for educated people to discuss complex topics ... and be talking about the same thing. By undercutting the most rudimentary facts, denialists remove even the root of the island of shared basic premises ... they make it impossible to have a productive discussion.
I agree with Tangerine. It becomes a bizarre form of trolling. I agree with you that it is exhausting and alienating.
Rrog
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But they do. This isn't a matter of too few grey matter cells. It's a fundamental OCD-like scenario
Acknowledging Fourier Series does not mean you can apply them
PS I did not say they were lacking brain cells, merely lacking prerequisite knowledge
abe supercro
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If I put butter and syrup on it and eat the earth, then where does that leave you guys?
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