Is real sour diesel still clone only?

PotHead3

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personally to me strain names are more like your last name. just because your mom and pop had 5 kids and thier last name is sour diesel, your last name is sour diesel, but there can be only one original sour diesel. everything else you get is part of the blood line of sour d. but now you go and mate with someone else your kids will be less like your parents but still has resemblance. If you come form a family of good genes, most likely you will have good genes, but dont mean that you cant have retards as kids. just that chances are you will have more kids that look good and smart if you were smart too, but then if you have 2 ugly mofos that have kids most likely you will have an ugly baby, but once in a while even thought your ugly you might have a good looking kid
 

aisach

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personally to me strain names are more like your last name. just because your mom and pop had 5 kids and thier last name is sour diesel, your last name is sour diesel, but there can be only one original sour diesel. everything else you get is part of the blood line of sour d. but now you go and mate with someone else your kids will be less like your parents but still has resemblance. If you come form a family of good genes, most likely you will have good genes, but dont mean that you cant have retards as kids. just that chances are you will have more kids that look good and smart if you were smart too, but then if you have 2 ugly mofos that have kids most likely you will have an ugly baby, but once in a while even thought your ugly you might have a good looking kid
Hilarious ! !
Comedic relief. LMAO
 
can't speak to the others but Greenthumb's East Coast Sour D is the real deal. Just like the clone and no hermies either
Haha.. I've ran the ecsd from greenthumb ad yes it was fire but it is not like the clone and yes mine did herm late in flower.
 

OGMan

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Still got a hard on for Greenthumb I see. ANY plant CAN have male flowers late in flowering, as you well know, but hermie flowers? I don't believe you and thousands agree Greenthumbs Sour Diesel is exactly like the clone, so one opinion from you doesn't hold ANY water because you've made no secret of your bias
 
Still got a hard on for Greenthumb I see. ANY plant CAN have male flowers late in flowering, as you well know, but hermie flowers? I don't believe you and thousands agree Greenthumbs Sour Diesel is exactly like the clone, so one opinion from you doesn't hold ANY water because you've made no secret of your bias
Where is these thousands of people who grew the ecsd from dr.greenthumb?

I can care less about dudes genetics but dude I'm in New York City where everything is sour and dr greenthumbs ecsd does not hold water to the sour out here sorry bro.

So yeah your non growing ass with nothing but spam for dr greenthumb really holds no water because you proved this years ago.
 
Still got a hard on for Greenthumb I see. ANY plant CAN have male flowers late in flowering, as you well know, but hermie flowers? I don't believe you and thousands agree Greenthumbs Sour Diesel is exactly like the clone, so one opinion from you doesn't hold ANY water because you've made no secret of your bias
And I would like to see these people grows who grew the s1s and said they are exactly like the sour diesel clone. Because even a s1 will show different expressions so for you to say exactly alike I knoow you are full of shit.

Edit- besides that you are in ireland I'm in nyc where the real clone is getting harvested and sold daily so my words hold more water than yours believe that. Did you ever see or grow the clone only to know dr greenthumbs is the same in ireland?
 

puffntuff

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Ogman still dick riding I see with no grows under his belt! Dude is quick to counter anything said about greenthumb
 

Jogro

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And I would like to see these people grows who grew the s1s and said they are exactly like the sour diesel clone. Because even a s1 will show different expressions so for you to say exactly alike I knoow you are full of shit.

Edit- besides that you are in ireland I'm in nyc where the real clone is getting harvested and sold daily so my words hold more water than yours believe that. Did you ever see or grow the clone only to know dr greenthumbs is the same in ireland?
FWIW:

-The Dr. Greenthumbs S1 should be expected to put out different phenos, and most reports I've seen of it say it does. Because of the nature of random genetic assortment, some of these may be highly similar to the original parent clone only strain, though most of them aren't going to be. Its a question of luck of the draw whether or not any given pack of beans has any that will be just like the parent, and I think this by itself can explain different peoples experiences growing his version.

-It isn't really relevant to the question of who's got the closest version in ceed form, but I know as a fact that lots of the "sour" being sold in NYC isn't actually grown there, but instead grown on the west coast and shipped in in bulk. There is also almost certainly more than one thing CALLED "sour" being sold in NYC, but again, not relevant to the original question.

-The "real" sour diesel is known to be hermie prone. If you're after something as close to the original as possible, I think you should expect it to also be hermie-prone.
 
FWIW:

-The Dr. Greenthumbs S1 should be expected to put out different phenos, and most reports I've seen of it say it does. Because of the nature of random genetic assortment, some of these may be highly similar to the original parent clone only strain, though most of them aren't going to be. Its a question of luck of the draw whether or not any given pack of beans has any that will be just like the parent, and I think this by itself can explain different peoples experiences growing his version.

-It isn't really relevant to the question of who's got the closest version in ceed form, but I know as a fact that lots of the "sour" being sold in NYC isn't actually grown there, but instead grown on the west coast and shipped in in bulk. There is also almost certainly more than one thing CALLED "sour" being sold in NYC, but again, not relevant to the original question.

-The "real" sour diesel is known to be hermie prone. If you're after something as close to the original as possible, I think you should expect it to also be hermie-prone.
Alright fwiw there are growers out here in nyc who hold the original cuts of sour d,chems ect jj-nyc breeder of topdawg genetics is in nyc and has these clones on deck.these clones are being harvested and sold out here yes stuff from cali come on these streets but again

Fwiw the real sour d and real chems are out here and are being sold its not just imported stuff believe that.
 

tree king

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the ecsd is the cut that 90% of people have of sour diesel.. is the same cut rez made and based his sour d seed line off of...its dank just not like its sister the original sour diesel clone.. which is all kerosine and has the hit that lasts...the original sour diesel cut is also reffered to as aj cut aka assholejoe aka weasel. the guy who created the sour d on accident.. the person who sour diesel came from the ecsd etc.
so which cut does jjnyc have that he's using for his sour sister?
 
The original diesel aj's cut(asshole joe). Ecsd is something rez made up using a a nycd male from soma which was found from new york city bagseed sour diesel.
 

kindnug

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Seems like their bud would come from Colorado/Michigan>NY since they are closer.
Hard to say though, unless your Jesus...
 

bundee1

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The stuff going around here, which is the Sour Diesel I remember first smoking, is brighter orange and green with an overpowering orange and spilled gasoline smell. The other stuff going around is NYCD, which is also citrusy and diesel but a much darker bud. The real SD also has a nicer bud structure than the NYCD.
 
Alright fwiw there are growers out here in nyc who hold the original cuts of sour d,chems ect jj-nyc breeder of topdawg genetics is in nyc and has these clones on deck.these clones are being harvested and sold out here yes stuff from cali come on these streets but again

Fwiw the real sour d and real chems are out here and are being sold its not just imported stuff believe that.
There are no clones of Diesel or Chemdawg around here Wyteberry, so where can I get seeds or either?
 

Jogro

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Alright fwiw there are growers out here in nyc who hold the original cuts of sour d,chems ect jj-nyc breeder of topdawg genetics is in nyc and has these clones on deck.these clones are being harvested and sold out here yes stuff from cali come on these streets but again Fwiw the real sour d and real chems are out here and are being sold its not just imported stuff believe that.
Of course there is real "sour" (and other great strains) for sale and grown in NYC. Never said otherwise. I just know for sure that

a. There is more than one thing for sale in NYC called "sour" and
b. Some of said "sour" is shipped in from CA, presumably to meet the demand.

Even the CA import is probably "real" in the sense that its genetically related to the original strain, its just not grown locally, that's all.

Seems like their bud would come from Colorado/Michigan>NY since they are closer.
Hard to say though, unless your Jesus...
Not really. When your dealer tells you he gets his stuff in from CA, and you've seen the postmarked private carrier package with your own eyes, I don't think it takes "divine intervention" to know where the stuff is being grown.

There very well may be bud for sale on the streets of NYC from CO or MI, I just can't speak to that. There still is stuff smuggled in from Mexico!

Jogro look into the diesel line more. There is an original that is not hermie prone.
How many "originals" are there, and where should I look to learn about them?

Which one(s) aren't hermie-prone, where did they come from, and who has them?
 

Fresh 2 De@th

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Jorgo, to sit here and say that the real "Sour Diesel" is being imported from CA, CO to NY, is bs to the max. i suggest you look around on these boards, and when you do, you'll see a lot of cali and colo cats state that sour isn't even widely available in that state, let alone if it actually is. i think you're confusing original diesel with sour diesel (which has been stated by many people to be pretty rare)
 
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