juststartin
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Is it wrong for a Christian to Smoke Weed.
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CrackerJax
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I think i have found your problem......
cph
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And that is one of my biggest problems with religion, you think you can anything and it's ok because god/jesus will forgive you, BULLSHIT!!
Thanks for the BOMB CJ!
Green Cross
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That's a bold statement.
Believing in Jesus is a way of life, not a get out of hell free card.
Anyhow, I believe self-righteousness, religion, and spirituality are often confused.
I don't remember Jesus being judgmental, but rather forgiving. There were those who condemned Jesus because he did things they didn't like.
Biblically speaking, Is Marijuana any different than wine? I think not.
And Rastafarians are Christians right?
certainun
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We all have problems.
HAT TRICK STEVE
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the bible is not the words of god, it is the words of men who claim they herd it from god or are relating it on "his" behalf,... william shakespear said "that nothing is good or evil, but only thinking makes it so" ,..... this is where most popular ideas about god come from./// from men "thinking" and then projecting these ideas onto god which they actually know nothing about,...... there is a story in hindoism, about 3 blind men who touched an elephant,... one touched his ear and therefore thought the whole elephant was like the ear,.. another touched his leg and thought the whole elephant is like the leg,... and the third , his tail, and so forth,... and so it is with popular ideas on god and relegion,.. a man thinks he has touched a piece og god or heaven and then thinks he can tell everybody what its all about,.. this is not only inferior psychology but inferior philosophy as well,... no one can tell anyone else what it is, it has to be expirienced for ones self... another picture that illustrates this is a chinese painting called "the vinagar tasters" and is thousands of years older than the bible,... the painting shows three old chinese men standing around a large pickle vat, and is apparent the have all just tasted the vinagar,... yet all three have completly different expressions on their faces,... one has a sour look about him, the second a puzzled look and third a pleasant smile, but all 3 tasted the same vinagar,.... why?... because we each expirience things differently and in our own ways and nobody else can dictate this expirience for us, weather its god or tasting vinagar
as far as the bible saying to obey the laws of man,.... is absolutely rideculous!!! i have herd, and belive that the only real sin, is to impose your will on another persons will, against their will,.... so by complying with this admonition, you will assinate your own character and destroy that part of your soul that is capable of having that expirience, that each must have for themselves
as far as the bible saying to obey the laws of man,.... is absolutely rideculous!!! i have herd, and belive that the only real sin, is to impose your will on another persons will, against their will,.... so by complying with this admonition, you will assinate your own character and destroy that part of your soul that is capable of having that expirience, that each must have for themselves
tip top toker
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amen!
it's such a double standard. as said, it's either that "jesus will forgive us" or more to my annoyance, "oh no, that part of the bible is upto your own personal interpretation"
well no, it quite factually states you will not do jack squat on a sunday, yet that's when the vicar is doing most of his/her weekly work, sunday church, that alone is just laughable.
as to smoking weed, i can't say either way as i have not read up on this in the bible yet, as some have said, i gave up reading after a bit, the bible sais for us to enjoy every herb bearing seed, so naturally it should be ok, but if there's stuff in the bible against drugs, then that's how it is, you don't do drugs, in the same way you don't get your end away before marriage etc.
however it stands, i don't think that anything should be able to dictate what you're even allowed to eat, drink, smoke etc etc, if i want to smoke, relieve some pain in my now broken hand, relax, then i'll take a puff, and damned if a book would try and tell me otherwise.
certainun
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Well here's the thing. I will actually relate this to smoking weed. A noob toker will ingest smoke into his stomach and not get high, and a seasoned stoner will smoke into the lungs, and get high. The same goes for accepting Jesus, many people say they "believe in God" well let me tell you something Satan believe's in God doesn't make you any better of a person. You have to be in total contact with Jesus, mind, body, and soul. So if you are in total contact with God you wont want to murder, rape, steal, ect. If you fully mean what you say in your prayers to God then you will be a saved person free of past, present, and future sin. That's all im goign to say in this discussion take it for what it is. Don't flame this, I've studied this very throughly in my life.
deh
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I was gonna blab on about imposing will and blah blah but "Steve" got it all down. I was raised in a strict catholic family, was forced to go to church in the Military, now that I am not required to attend services or seek the acceptance of a flock of people or whatever, I am personally freer to express myself not bound by a schedule and not confined by the teachings of a novel. We are made of stardust...no one waved thier hand or pulled a finger (fart joke) and said oh look what I made. Believe in what you want,
don't belive what the book tells you to do.
don't belive what the book tells you to do.
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Benassi
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You're making god cry!
Keep toking.
Keep toking.
CrackerJax
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First off.... Ur welcome C3PoH2o 
Second, let's just cut to the crux of the biscuit (that middle dent where the butter melts mmm) with Christianity. It's plain and simply a STOLEN religion. Old testament... JACKED! New testament... JACKED!! The whole thing is stolen from others and then used against those others!! It's a bit of insanity......a cruel twisted insanity. Paul of Tarsus JACKED Christianity and then that pollution was repeated by the other gospel authors (completely anonymous writers of a perfect truth no less!) and the Romans through Constantine honed it into a slave religion.
Yes, you may kill and be completely forgiven. That's a neat bit of sophistry..... There is however ONE immutable sin which CANNOT be forgiven.....
It's almost too funny, if it wasn't sadly true......Carny trick incarnate!
You will suffer eternal damnation if you are shown the word and turn away from it.
Everything else, rape sodomy, incest, murder, ....no worries there. All will be forgiven, but not NOT believing in the MYTH, oh that one is UNFORGIVABLE. That doesn't even make sense, unless someone is seeking total control. If there is a G*D, I'm pretty confident that G*D is confident, and already in COMPLETE control. So why the damnation? Unless it is a MAN made CONCEPT of CONTROL.
Lawdy, how the meek are truly the flock. Baaaa.......
Second, let's just cut to the crux of the biscuit (that middle dent where the butter melts mmm) with Christianity. It's plain and simply a STOLEN religion. Old testament... JACKED! New testament... JACKED!! The whole thing is stolen from others and then used against those others!! It's a bit of insanity......a cruel twisted insanity. Paul of Tarsus JACKED Christianity and then that pollution was repeated by the other gospel authors (completely anonymous writers of a perfect truth no less!) and the Romans through Constantine honed it into a slave religion.
Yes, you may kill and be completely forgiven. That's a neat bit of sophistry..... There is however ONE immutable sin which CANNOT be forgiven.....
It's almost too funny, if it wasn't sadly true......Carny trick incarnate!You will suffer eternal damnation if you are shown the word and turn away from it.
Everything else, rape sodomy, incest, murder, ....no worries there. All will be forgiven, but not NOT believing in the MYTH, oh that one is UNFORGIVABLE. That doesn't even make sense, unless someone is seeking total control. If there is a G*D, I'm pretty confident that G*D is confident, and already in COMPLETE control. So why the damnation? Unless it is a MAN made CONCEPT of CONTROL.
Lawdy, how the meek are truly the flock. Baaaa.......
Green Cross
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It's funny how people get off track here, non-believers using this thread to bash Christians, and the holy-rollers go beyond the issue, comparing weed to rape and murder. lol
It's no different than alcohol, when used responsibly or medicinally.
1 Corinthians 10:23 "All things are permissible, but not all things are beneficial." (NIV)
1 Timothy 5:23 "Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses." (NIV)
The same can be applied to Marijuana.
But anything can be abused, and drunkenness is a sin. However it's not unforgivable; God knows where your heart is at, and that's what really matters.
It's no different than alcohol, when used responsibly or medicinally.
1 Corinthians 10:23 "All things are permissible, but not all things are beneficial." (NIV)
1 Timothy 5:23 "Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses." (NIV)
The same can be applied to Marijuana.
But anything can be abused, and drunkenness is a sin. However it's not unforgivable; God knows where your heart is at, and that's what really matters.
Green Cross
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Religious and spiritual use of cannabis
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This article is about cannabis used in a religious or spiritual context. Cannabis has an ancient history of ritual usage as an aid to trance and has been traditionally used in a religious context throughout the Old World. Herodotus wrote about early ceremonial practices by the Scythians, which are thought to have occurred from the 5th to 2nd century BCE. Itinerant sadhus have used it in India for centuries, and the Rastafari movement has embraced it in modern times. Anthropologist Sula Benet claimed historical evidence and etymological comparison show that the Holy anointing oil used by the Hebrews contained cannabis extracts, "kaneh bosm" (קְנֵה-בֹשֶׂם, and that it is also listed as an incense tree in the original Hebrew and Aramaic texts of the Old Testament. Early Christians used cannabis oil for medicinal purposes and as part of the baptismal process to confirm the forgiveness of sins and "right of passage" into the Kingdom of Heaven.[1][2][3] The Unction, Seal, laying on of hands, the Counselor, and the Holy Spirit are all often synonymous of the Holy anointing oil.[4] Early Gnostic texts indicate that the Chrism is essential to becoming a "Christian".[5][6] Some Muslims of the Sufi order have used cannabis as a tool for spiritual exploration. 
Anyone want to condemn the Rastafarian's?
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This article is about cannabis used in a religious or spiritual context. Cannabis has an ancient history of ritual usage as an aid to trance and has been traditionally used in a religious context throughout the Old World. Herodotus wrote about early ceremonial practices by the Scythians, which are thought to have occurred from the 5th to 2nd century BCE. Itinerant sadhus have used it in India for centuries, and the Rastafari movement has embraced it in modern times. Anthropologist Sula Benet claimed historical evidence and etymological comparison show that the Holy anointing oil used by the Hebrews contained cannabis extracts, "kaneh bosm" (קְנֵה-בֹשֶׂם
, and that it is also listed as an incense tree in the original Hebrew and Aramaic texts of the Old Testament. Early Christians used cannabis oil for medicinal purposes and as part of the baptismal process to confirm the forgiveness of sins and "right of passage" into the Kingdom of Heaven.[1][2][3] The Unction, Seal, laying on of hands, the Counselor, and the Holy Spirit are all often synonymous of the Holy anointing oil.[4] Early Gnostic texts indicate that the Chrism is essential to becoming a "Christian".[5][6] Some Muslims of the Sufi order have used cannabis as a tool for spiritual exploration. Anyone want to condemn the Rastafarian's?
g00sEgg
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That's catholics...get your fact's straight plz.
CrackerJax
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deh
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I neither bashed nor condemed any religion. I CHOOSE to not be involved with a specific religion because that is my right. I do NOT force my opinion on other people like SOME do by quoting the bible, showing up at my door, placing shit on my car, or saying i condemed or bashed a religion. Maybe you arent talking to me specifically but....I am sure I am one of your intended targets due to the fact I had nothing cheery to say on the subject.
g00sEgg
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Don't tell me nonsense unless you have fact's to back it up...I on the other hand have taken 4 years of religion classes. Please, do some research...Forgive me
Nonsense......