Is it REALLY worth it?

Dude, I grow to stay out of trouble. Dealing with other people for your dope gets you in trouble. If you follow all the rules on this form (like not telling anyone) your cool and safe.

thelastpirate said:

This site fucks me up. I was telling my wife about the fact that there are alot of people out there who couldn't put a properly formed sentence together, spell correctly, or use proper grammar, yet could hold their own quite well conversing with Botanists, Horticulturists, and the scientific community in general.
And innovative too!! I have seen some of the most creative and ingenious means of growing small quantities of pot. Some of these grows cannot possibly be to save money. There has to be more invested in the system than one could ever get out yield wise. It has to be about quality control, the "getting away with it" or simply just pride in the end result.
My question is WHY would someone risk the possible penalties for growing, only to grow such small quantities. For me, if we still had our old reliable, consistently good connection, I would not be growing. But since I decided to grow our own, I am making it worth the risk. In for a penny, in for a pound.
I am not slamming anyone, god bless you all for your efforts!! (And some mighty fine efforts some are!!!) I am just trying to get my mind around the rationale. There is NO WAY I'd risk jail, losing my house, or my parents house for a couple of ounces that I could go out and buy. It just isn't worth several years of even PROBATION, much less jail, for a few ounces in my mind.

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What penalties...... O Canada !!!

shipinit said:

Quality control and LESS RISK. If done properly there is relatively zero risk. Copping an oz. every few days and usually having to drive to get it is far riskier in my opinion. It is always nice to control what comes out in the end product, don't like the strain try or create a new one.....don't like what your hookup has....pray he gets something different. Not to mention all the stuff being "sprayed" on herb these days.

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Never had a pot plant pull a gun on me.........

crazy-mental said:

to start this is a stoner site/ growing community not an english lit site.
yes some growing systems cost lots, maybe more than one can yield in one grow, but people grow more than one yield, and after a while the growing systems pay for there selfs.
i am growing outdoors for now, but when i grow indoors i just use a old closet and a 250 to 600 hps.with a few fans.
anyone can grow for about£100 .and i can grow 8 to 10 oz with my 600 watt hps, that has got to be worth it.

some people cannot buy weed in there area, so have to grow, if they want to smoke, and the best smoke is free.
and most of us wouldnt get jail, for 4 to 8 plants.
or if you do smoke and keep getting sold shit,like glass in with the weed there buying etc. who wants that.
and everyone has a right to grow, just dont get caught.
i dont know many people who grow there own,for there own, that have got busted, just dealers.
and people only get caught for opening there big mouths.

btw what are you growing?.

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I know this aint english lit 101, and don't expect it to be. It just goes to show not to take things (or people) at face value or first impressions. I have nothing but respect for most everyone here.
I'm down to 2 bagseed plants, about 5' and in flower.
And actually, I will get time for 1 or 20, same thing here. Your reasons listed are the very reasons I chose to do this. Just that I can fit 20 in the room, and am willing to take the risk. The laws here are stupid strick, and a fed conviction for traffiking never helps any.

I did not want this to be an attack on anyone, or want anyone to be defensive. This whole thing is such an innocent and harmless hobby, habit. NOBODY should be penalized for it. But the fact remains that it IS illegal, and carries penalties. God bless you all who are in an area thats fairly tolerant. (OH CANADA!! Canada has some cool window tinting laws too.)
FOR ME, the risk isn't worth a few ounces (even tho the "risk" is negligible). But since that risk IS so negligible, I am going for a bit more. No huge grow, 6 lights, 20 or so plants. Well worth it considering.
I just keep telling my kid (He's 22) that while I do not condone illegal activity especially theft, if you're gonna steal a car, don't steal a 1979 Pinto, go for the Maybach!!! (He and some friends got caught joyriding).

I don't remember why I started this, surely I had a reason, but it went up in smoke!!!!! I'll try and NOT POST while smoking.

I grow because I should be able to try different strains of cannabis (a naturally occurring, God-made, blessing of a plant) without having to drive around my county asking everyone and their uncle what strain their cousin has available. In my opinion, that is much more risky then growing (especially if you grow small amounts outdoors off your property, which is what I do).

But I also don't like depending on someone else exclusively. What if something happens to my dealer? Then I'm shit outta luck. I could have multiple dealers in order to make sure I have back ups... but that, again, increases the risk.

Someday I might stop growing and just rely on a dealer, if I find someone I trust who has the supply that I prefer. But I'll probably always have a stash of seeds of my favorite strain in the freezer... just in case.

jsn9333 said:

I grow because I should be able to try different strains of cannabis (a naturally occurring, God-made, blessing of a plant) without having to drive around my county asking everyone and their uncle what strain their cousin has available. In my opinion, that is much more risky then growing (especially if you grow small amounts outdoors off your property, which is what I do).

But I also don't like depending on someone else exclusively. What if something happens to my dealer? Then I'm shit outta luck. I could have multiple dealers in order to make sure I have back ups... but that, again, increases the risk.

Someday I might stop growing and just rely on a dealer, if I find someone I trust who has the supply that I prefer. But I'll probably always have a stash of seeds of my favorite strain in the freezer... just in case.

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I would love to be afforded that luxury!! To be able to do it just to try different strains, and face minimal penalties if I DO get caught. I truly hope you never quit growing. You'll never find a dealer as reiable as mother nature. It's great. I only wish I had started earlier, before we got spoiled by our longstanding connection. When that went by the wayside, and it became a chore to get GOOD and consistent pot, and when I had to deal with folks outside my comfort zone to do so is what made the decision to grow for me.
Nothing but love for all ya'll!!

Somewhere along the line folks got the idea that I was questioning growing small amounts. Nothing of the kind. I was questioning the growing small amounts vs the penalties and if anyone had any thoughts as to that. Peace.

I grow for several reasons. I love growing as much as smoking. It's an interesting and educational hobby. Second, pot where I live now sucks. I grew up by the Kentucky border and had the privelage of smoking some of the best weed grown on the east coast. I have seen with my own eyes marijuana plants that were 12 feet tall. Now, a decade later, I have to pay double the money for half the pot, and it's either half ass shit grown locally or brought in by the Mexican druglords. (they do grow some mighty fine herb down there, i must say) Why worry about any of that when i can grow my own, the way I want, as strong as I want. Also, I grow completely organic, so I know I'm not getting god knows what in my body. yeah, it's illegal, but I couldn't give a fuck. I hate the U.S. government and every rich elitist idea it stands for. REMEMBER, WE DO NOT LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY, WE LIVE IN A FEDERALIST REPUBLIC. until that changes, we will never be free. That's all I got to say about that.

God im glad i dont live in the states.....They give u a couple of years for a couple of ounce......i heard of a couple in england who had nearly 1000 plants on the go and never even saw the gates to prison...had a heavy fine and comunity service but that was it...they were takin there kids to school the next week.

where I live I have to go to a real sketchy part of town to get some bud and its very dangerous. New to this city and I'm always at work no time to make new connections.

Main reason was cause I want top quality bud and damn it I want control over what I smoke I'm a sativa fanatic and can't usually find them around even back in my home town where i knew everyone. Also I get angry everytime I had to go to the hood and on top of that get ripped off and waste 30 minutes cause he'd never be on time and i'd get extremly sketched out.

But main reason is quality control and i've come to really enjoy the hell out of it.

Why only do a small amount? Because I have no intention to sell bud. Don't want to be a dealer just want it for myself and family (who I give it to for free). Its also a big difference in my state as far as penelty goes for under 5 plants and over 5 plants. You can have 5 8 foot giants and get probation but if you have a SOG with een 7 tiny plants you are getting 1-3 years.

I'm all about civil disobidience but i still like my freedom and I can risk probation to do something I believe in.

But it has become a very fond hobby for me.

thelastpirate said:

True that. There is alot less risk growing it than going into certain parts of town to score, or buying from someone who is less than careful. And you lucky assed medical permit types have alot less risk than most others. (God bless ya!!!)
I just wondered if anyone actually thought about the possible fall-out, and weighed the consequences before deciding to grow. Almost everyone out there (notice the almost) is as intelligent, if not eloquent, as anyone i've met. It just seems that no matter what the risk is, ANY chance of jail has to be worth the time I'd get if caught. If I take ANY risk whatsoever, it's go for the gusto.

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I know what you mean thelastpirate, I am going big or going home once I learn master the craft. If I do get busted I plan on defending myself and presenting the facts regarding its prohibition to a group of 12 of my peers not one old conservative judge.... I don't plan on getting caught though. Best of luck to all of us! Glad I am Canadian I have a chance lol

ALuckyShot said:

I know what you mean thelastpirate, I am going big or going home once I learn master the craft. If I do get busted I plan on defending myself and presenting the facts regarding its prohibition to a group of 12 of my peers not one old conservative judge.... I don't plan on getting caught though. Best of luck to all of us! Glad I am Canadian I have a chance lol

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What if your twelve peers are right wing conservative assholes?

Sorry, I get off on shitting on peoples' parades....

squishdoggydog said:

What if your twelve peers are right wing conservative assholes?

Sorry, I get off on shitting on peoples' parades....

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You are right bud very possible, I am in Canada we are left leaning assholes.

in my country cannabis costs ~$24.00/gram. thats the reason why im growing my 3 plants.
+ i never smoked clean buds, only dusted or weak shit bought from dealers.

well living in canada the laws reguarding marijuana are fairly relaxed so if i made the decision to grow indoors for my own use odds are that with 2 or 3 clones in a perpetual harvest situation i could fullfill my smoking needs and even if i was caught the chances i would go to jail are minimal especially considering i have a clean record and a good lawyer. i personally believe its worth the risk however due to finaces im living with my parents right now and theyre not cool with it so its just a little homegrown outdoor every year for me

I think the most important part of growing your own is to keep it only for you nobody has to know about it or you will be in trouble, even with friends, friends tell other friends and so on, it has to be top secret.

I'm growing because of quality, quantity and it's really starting to be a huge pain in the ass to even get any.

I really feel that decriminalization is not that far down the road and I want to be ready. As soon as it isn't criminal then I will have a larger grow but for now I have to stay under 5 due to bullshit penalties. Penalized for gardening, how fucking stupid.

Why do it? Because fuck anyone who says I can't. I sell weed, and I sell alot. I have no need whatsoever to grow it. But I do it because I love looking at those plants everyday, and because I love knowing that whats filling my lungs is my own labor. I love waking up every morning and being able to notice the growth. And when 23 out of 24 hours of my day seem to revolve around hovering infront a screen its nice to have a piece of my life that still involves nature.

Hi folks. The more of us there are, the shakier their shit is. The more of us there are, the less broken arsed innocents there will be. I heard a cool aphorism.."Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God". I know who i'd be pissed at if i spent a week working to make a great party and some of the guests took it upon themselves to send their peers to fucking torture camps for enjoying my sacred canapes. Thanks to everybody for giving so freely of their knowledge in this place. I hope you're feeling better TL Pirate. You're doing fuck all wrong mate!

I think I read somewhere that 80% of police busts on grow operations are because the grower or someone close the grower let the word get out. If you are growing for yourself and maybe a handful of buddies (just dont tell them you grow!). I can't imagine how you would ever get caught unless there was a fluke (i.e. electricity, a repair man stumbles upon it, you have a lot of guests over) or you were starting to become a big supplier (i.e. starting to stand out on the radar).

I keep up with busts and police actions against MJ in my state and city as much as possible. What I've concluded is that every police department is pretty much understaffed and underfunded, no matter where they are. They only have limited resources to hunt for drugs. Unless you show your ass to them, they don't give a damn about 10 plants growing in your basement. they want the big dogs. it's just like business, they're looking for a return-on-investment. They don't care about little grows because they have their hands full trying to keep the Mexicans under control because they are bringing it in by the truckload here. There is also alot of big outdoor grows newsobserver.com | Harnett officials find more marijuana here that they are trying to find. In this article they found 30,000 plants!!! they don't give a shit about my little grow.

i wanted to start a few lights as well but im on the same boat, i think about going to jail it scares me u know, honestly id rather grow flowers then be in jail sharing showers LOL..

but that is what comes with growing, like at 1 point i was thinking stay under 50 plants... like i read in a book, stay under 50 you be alright, and that is a nice bit to smoke even if u smoke a oz a day lol, its all about what you can handle man seriously.

now im thinking i just have 10-20 plants, fuck maybe more man but im most likely gonna keep it to a minimum you gotta think whats more important your freedom or money it doesnt take much to buy some weed , nice started thread its been on my mind ALL DAY like people have good weed you just gotta find them! and pay the buck

like grow more weed than i can? like 1 light? thats seriously fucking BORING a few lights ok , just keep 10 plants under them each and i think u be alright, and with some dank smoke, like even if you was selling just keep your shit together man but i dont advise it id say do what im gonna do and stick with 10-20 plants, and smoke some dank

at 1 point i was wondering alot about it you know they dont bust cocaine dealers because theres so many they have so many resources to catch growers guys its almost not worth it, but if you love it you will do it,

personaly i think you just take it easy having a kid and a family you know
grow outside when the weather is better, or keep doing it inside, i tell you i havnt started growing yet again and if i do im gonna keep it small i decided on this other thread my friend started like NAW jail ISNT for me. END OF STORY