Is it possible that some really frosty strains are just flat-out impotent?
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hillbill
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There are other factors besides but thc is the captain. The substances in cannabis have been living together for a long time. They interact with each other and with us in various ways. Hence,I like the whole bud vaped not burned. But I am not a purist. Like Ben Harper "Burn One Down".
Some of the tastes and smells today are something incredible. What amazes me is it all smells like marijuana no matter what it smells like. You know what it is.....and so does everyone else.(except my wife...she might ask where is the lemonade? She may wonder aloud about that wonderful lemon smell. She has done this while the folks smoking a joint down the walk were quite amused.)
Feeling the alkaloids tonight!
Some of the tastes and smells today are something incredible. What amazes me is it all smells like marijuana no matter what it smells like. You know what it is.....and so does everyone else.(except my wife...she might ask where is the lemonade? She may wonder aloud about that wonderful lemon smell. She has done this while the folks smoking a joint down the walk were quite amused.)
Feeling the alkaloids tonight!
hillbill
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Marinol.Thc on its own is horrible
Dr. Who
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There are high end testers that wax your balls and send you home though....
That Blue Cheese test's out at 24+ (avg 23.4) a lot.....Damn great buzz
The last run of the GG was north of 28. couchlocker but, makes you really, really stupid, like there's amnesia in there somewhere...Kinda trippy for the first part of the buzz. Another one that lingers...
But yeah, there are some that test "middler" but, smoke as personal stash....Some modern cross's. Mostly Landrace's as I can remember....Old school skunk X romulan is still a popular strain around here......Seems to be the clones that are always asked about the most...
chemphlegm
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I've encountered people that say "that didnt get me high" while the person sitting next to them is drooling stoned sharing the same joint. so, yep, even grown properly...might not tickle someones fancy. I recall this about other drugs and even alcohol in my younger days. Some would flip out with a hit of good weed while others chronically bogart the stash. I watched two people split a dot and one went sick to the hospital while the other laughed at them endlessly. One toke of herb puts one to sleep while others get creatively productive. High THC is the last factor I seek when selecting keepers. I had a 10% years ago lab showed and it kicked our ass for years. breeder stated 9-11% on that one, spot on.
My GTH is in the high 20's and is very unpleasant to me. One patient wants it to cook/eat.
Seems drugs and alcohol can affect different people in different ways and even differently from one day to another sometimes.
moods, health, chemotype must play a part I believe.
My GTH is in the high 20's and is very unpleasant to me. One patient wants it to cook/eat.
Seems drugs and alcohol can affect different people in different ways and even differently from one day to another sometimes.
moods, health, chemotype must play a part I believe.
MichiganMedGrower
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Well I have had plenty of both of those first two strains mentioned and while they are quite different they both make my point perfectly.
Couch lock weed is exactly the kind of weed that is not offering a balanced high. I want smoke that is uplifting and potent and long lasting. Those strains are mostly sleepy. I like to be able to tune in to my environment until I choose to tune out. That is the main effect missing from most strains that are continually mentioned and popular.
Good breeders bring out the land race sativa blooming mental giggly fun quality while keeping the medical effects and strong buzz.
I am continually trying new strains to see if I can find this balanced effect like true old school skunk had. Not a new hybrid named old school skunk.
I would rather smoke the skunk x romulan than the other two suggested but I have only tried them separately. And it is the particular phenos and individual breeder chooses that make great strains. The lab tests with tests for only a few canabanoids is why we have headed in the wrong direction.
It seems to me people want pot to affect them like alcohol. Not a psycho active substance.
If I wanted just flat out potent marijuana the black market in New Jersey has real diesel. The old diesel that gets you lost in your own neighborhood. But I am looking for an alternative to pharmaceuticals. Not a strain to copy opiates with no fun part.
But it is a lot more potent and does what the popular strains you mentioned much better. Of course anyone who had a real plant like that would never share. That would put them out of business. so I would have to hope for stress seeds and hope for a great pheno. Or I have to do it with someone's $200 seeds. And I would still get bored with the smoke.
But if you prefer to always sit and stare any strong modern hi test strain seems to do well enough.
Until you build tolerance to it.
I will likely continue to avoid the 25% + strains as I said. For me. That high is boring and ineffective. And I build tolerance to it very quickly.
The sativas and hybrids that got us high all day long even trippy high only had 8-12% THC.
The older holy grail stuff had 4%.
Kingrow1
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My country is addicted to cheese because it fucks you up, very small minded people who will never reach enlightenment
hillbill
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Having smoked a lot of weed way back when 11% or so was the best tested, something beyond thc was going on. And it still would if those plants have survived somewhere. But with thc so well known and selectively bred for we may have bred away from something very desired or even needed.
More people are becoming more aware of something like this going on. Some of those people are breeders which will show over time.
More people are becoming more aware of something like this going on. Some of those people are breeders which will show over time.
hillbill
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Are you from Wisconsin?My country is addicted to cheese because it fucks you up, very small minded people who will never reach enlightenment
coreywebster
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More people are losing the plot too. All that bloody THC, I never met anyone having mental problems back in the days when resin or thai brick was all you could get hold of. Seems things are been steered back toward more balanced strains higher in CBD now you folks are legal. That's got to be good.
I do love a bit of blue cheese!! Still my fav strain I have grown. I found it calming where some strains twang me out.
chemphlegm
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could be the other way around?
could be those with mental issues may be seeking high THC.
so many with mental issues seeking relief, higher demand for higher thc, supply and demand, or shitty weed abound and many are programmed to
ask arbitrarily for high thc because they expect most are low thc hence ineffective for them. cup winners judge according to thc %, breeders strive to claim the highest, all this doesnt surprise me one bit.
its one way I weed out potential patients, along with psychotropic and narcotic drug use, often I find all three going hand in hand.
could be those with mental issues may be seeking high THC.
so many with mental issues seeking relief, higher demand for higher thc, supply and demand, or shitty weed abound and many are programmed to
ask arbitrarily for high thc because they expect most are low thc hence ineffective for them. cup winners judge according to thc %, breeders strive to claim the highest, all this doesnt surprise me one bit.
its one way I weed out potential patients, along with psychotropic and narcotic drug use, often I find all three going hand in hand.
Kingrow1
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From Wales where Mr Nice came from
Kingrow1
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Yer i too have noticed the growing mental problems caused by high grade weed. This site seems to dispute it even though its an obvious problem here. Paranoia is one of the mild effects, the rest way more worse...
Kingrow1
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Uk Cheese and Blue Cheese are way more popular...
hillbill
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I tend to use only the trichs displaced through trimming and some grinding apart from the whole bud. People that use concentrates talk about heightened tolerance which I am not after. The number of concentrate users is up and it would follow that consuming that level of separated thc could be related to reports of paranoia etc.
Roger A. Shrubber
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i think the entourage effect is a lot bigger thing than most people think, but i also think personal body chemistry has a lot to do with it. i've grown strains that other people loved, but they didn't do shit for me. Jack Herrer is like that, i have some beans from seedsman, they grow pretty plants that all my friends eat up, but i can smoke the shit all day and not get more than a light buzz. from what i've been able to figure out, myrcene and humulene are the terps that effect me more than others, which is kind of disappointing, because i love the pinene strains, but they seems to have less effect on me.