Is Iraq worth it?

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MaGoO

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We as Americans were all sold the proposition of war in Iraq to dismantle the "WMD's" that were causing havoc in The region.... The Bush Administration pushed it, Congress voted on it and passed it....

Was it worth it to remove the WMD's from Iraq......

I'd like to hear your thoughts?
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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If one considers Saddam to be a Weapon of Mass Distruction, then yes, our causing havoc in the region was worth the effort. A couple of hundred thousand Kurds in the region would agree, I think.

Vi
 
medicineman

medicineman

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MaGoO said:
We as Americans were all sold the proposition of war in Iraq to dismantle the "WMD's" that were causing havoc in The region.... The Bush Administration pushed it, Congress voted on it and passed it....

Was it worth it to remove the WMD's from Iraq......

I'd like to hear your thoughts?
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Hey, have you been asleep for the past 5 years? There were no WMDs, The whole thing was a scam to allow corporations to profit from an unholy war based on lies. Someone should tell all the mothers that lost their sons and daughters that they died for profit, the almighty profit extracted for over 100,000 lives. The government, especially the present one, has no conscience!
 
DankyDank

DankyDank

Well-Known Member
medicineman said:
Hey, have you been asleep for the past 5 years? There were no WMDs, The whole thing was a scam to allow corporations to profit from an unholy war based on lies. Someone should tell all the mothers that lost their sons and daughters that they died for profit, the almighty profit extracted for over 100,000 lives. The government, especially the present one, has no conscience!
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I can't believe that otherwise intelligent people say that the administration "lied" about WMD. Not only did the Bush administration think there was WMD in Iraq, but so did the UN, our entire Senate and House, Bill Clinton, and practically everyone who voiced an opinion on the subject before the invasion... including Saddam himself, who threatened to use WMD if we invaded.

You could even make the case that plenty of WMD has indeed been pulled out of Iraq.

Don't get me wrong- I do not think that invading Iraq turned out to be a smart thing to do, at least in the manner in which it was executed. But the war was not the product of some evil marriage between corporations and the government; it was a strategic mistake made by a group of people who honestly believed it was the right approach at the time. Turns out they were wrong.
 
medicineman

medicineman

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DankyDank said:
I can't believe that otherwise intelligent people say that the administration "lied" about WMD. Not only did the Bush administration think there was WMD in Iraq, but so did the UN, our entire Senate and House, Bill Clinton, and practically everyone who voiced an opinion on the subject before the invasion... including Saddam himself, who threatened to use WMD if we invaded.

You could even make the case that plenty of WMD has indeed been pulled out of Iraq.

Don't get me wrong- I do not think that invading Iraq turned out to be a smart thing to do, at least in the manner in which it was executed. But the war was not the product of some evil marriage between corporations and the government; it was a strategic mistake made by a group of people who honestly believed it was the right approach at the time. Turns out they were wrong.
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Looks like they pulled the wool over your eyes dank. I guess you'd have to have seen more of political life to be as cynical as me, I've seen plenty of lying, cheating and outright criminal behavior by our leaders. If they were to be tried in a world court, the present administration would all be in for the death penalty!
 
bigballin007

bigballin007

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This war and the previous war has been all about oil.
The goverment of the USA cares nothing about WMD hell look at north korea they detonated one yet we stand still come the fuck on people get a clue Iraq has oil North Korea does not. This country has been all about oil ever since the engine was developed yet new technologys are in place to have a safer fuel yet our country as well as the Britts continue to invade countries under false pretenses of an imminate threat. Do you feel safer now that saddam is out of power? I know I don't! Saddam kept order and was able to control the Iraqi's with death and I see everyday that is exactly what it takes in Iraq to have peace, yet our goverment (the real terrorists) invade at our expense with unjust causes. Our goverment the U.N , The Britts all need to be tried for war crimes just like saddam as they are killing innocent people at a rate far worse than saddam has ever achieved. When the US wakes the fuck up and stop trying to invade everyones lives then the world will be safer untill then I support a revolt and true freedom in the name of peace. Ainti Goverment is the new future and soon the citizens of the US will be pinched by the goverment to the point we will revolt and a war unlike any other will errupt here in the USA. It may not be in my life time but at the current rate of new laws ever restricting peoples freedoms, mark my words it will come!!!
 
medicineman

medicineman

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bigballin007 said:
This war and the previous war has been all about oil.
The goverment of the USA cares nothing about WMD hell look at north korea they detonated one yet we stand still come the fuck on people get a clue Iraq has oil North Korea does not. This country has been all about oil ever since the engine was developed yet new technologys are in place to have a safer fuel yet our country as well as the Britts continue to invade countries under false pretenses of an imminate threat. Do you feel safer now that saddam is out of power? I know I don't! Saddam kept order and was able to control the Iraqi's with death and I see everyday that is exactly what it takes in Iraq to have peace, yet our goverment (the real terrorists) invade at our expense with unjust causes. Our goverment the U.N , The Britts all need to be tried for war crimes just like saddam as they are killing innocent people at a rate far worse than saddam has ever achieved. When the US wakes the fuck up and stop trying to invade everyones lives then the world will be safer untill then I support a revolt and true freedom in the name of peace. Ainti Goverment is the new future and soon the citizens of the US will be pinched by the goverment to the point we will revolt and a war unlike any other will errupt here in the USA. It may not be in my life time but at the current rate of new laws ever restricting peoples freedoms, mark my words it will come!!!
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Ive got my guns ready, but you'd have to get the military on our side or they'd smoke us!
 
Dankdude

Dankdude

Well-Known Member
The problem with all of the above is that Saddam was selling wolf tickets.
Saddam was nothing more than a minor irritation, his country was on the verge of bankruptcy and once his army started to go hungry he would have suffered the same fate of Anwar Sadat did in 1981.

So no I say the Iraq war is not worth it.
 
Garden Knowm

Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
Killing children.... what is worth killing children..? how many children must die...? 1 0r 10 or 1000..... or is it 100,000

How many KIDS.. ??? HOw many fucking babies?

Is it right to send 100,000 18 year old boys to go and kill 500,000 people of which 50% are under the age of 18?

Where is the justification?

When some one dies.. How big is the ripple of pain... ? When 500,000 people die in the middle east... does the ripple of pain from their mothers, fathers, kids, wives, brothers and sisters reach around the globe.. does that pain come back to every member on the planet?


Could 1 TRILLION dollars be spent to help Iraq and the USA....is there a better way the money could be spent than killing people... ?

1,000,000,000,000.00 YES the war is headed to the 1 trillion mark.. YES...

People who are being bombed and killled and maligned become desperate... desperate people fight to the death...

People with jobs and a flourishing economy have hobbies and interests and value life.. Maybe it is time to spend that 1 trillion on helping THEIR economy rather than killing their children... ACTUALLy it is OUR children we are killing.. TRUTH is TRUTH...

iloveyou
 
medicineman

medicineman

New Member
Garden Knowm said:
Killing children.... what is worth killing children..? how many children must die...? 1 0r 10 or 1000..... or is it 100,000

How many KIDS.. ??? HOw many fucking babies?

Is it right to send 100,000 18 year old boys to go and kill 500,000 people of which 50% are under the age of 18?

Where is the justification?

When some one dies.. How big is the ripple of pain... ? When 500,000 people die in the middle east... does the ripple of pain from their mothers, fathers, kids, wives, brothers and sisters reach around the globe.. does that pain come back to every member on the planet?


Could 1 TRILLION dollars be spent to help Iraq and the USA....is there a better way the money is could be spent than killing people... ?

1,000,000,000,000.00 YES the war is headed to the 1 trillion mark.. YES...

People who are being bombed and killled and maligned become desperate... desperate people fight to the death...

People with jobs and a flourishing economy have hobbies and interests and value life.. Maybe it is time to spend that 1 trillion on helping THEIR economy rather than killing their children... ACTUALLy it is OUR children we are killing.. TRUTH is TRUTH...

iloveyou
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Can I get an amen! finally a voice of reason. Where have you been while I've been holding the voice of reason at bay from these plutocratic warriors. Geeze I've been thinking everyone on this site is twisted. God bless you Knowm, I couldn't have said it better myself!
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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Garden Knowm said:
Killing children.... what is worth killing children..? how many children must die...? 1 0r 10 or 1000..... or is it 100,000
How many KIDS.. ??? HOw many fucking babies?
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Call Planned Parenthood ... they probably have the answer to your question.

Vi
 
Smirgen

Smirgen

Well-Known Member
What do you guys think about Reinstating Saddam Hussein as Iraqi President?

I realize it might be too late but it appeared Saddam was the only person that could keep iraq under control through the use of occasional mass murders of his opponents and through the use of rape and torture rooms, The best part is since he isnt a Democrat or a Republican he would be able to escape criticisim from not only Democrats and Republicans but from our Media as well.
 
medicineman

medicineman

New Member
It's the only workable solution! He'd kill a few thousand shias and then things would get back to normal, like rapes, mass murders, the things the muslim extremests understand, And Iran would be kept from taking over Iraq which is the way it's headed! I say pardon him and give him f-16s and bunker busters, no long range missles, He'd probably take out Irans Nukes, And then the pressure is off of us!
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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Garden Knowm said:
thank you for your insight

iloveyou
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Your entirely welcome. I believe the answer to your question, if you were to contact Planned Parenthood, would that the amount of babies deemed expendable in their eyes would be in excess of three million at this point in time ... give or take a million or two, but whose counting?

Vi
 
Garden Knowm

Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
And what effect do you think PLANNED PARENTHOODs actions are having on society... on planet earth? And do you think they are tantamount to the killings that I was referencing in my previous post?

cheers
 
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