Is Gaia Green Primal Earth Super Soil really ok from Seed to Harvest, or too hot for seeds & seedlings?

I purchased Gaia Green Primal Earth Super Soil for my main soil & Gaia Green All Purpose 4-4-4 & Gaia Green Power Bloom fertilizer for my grow this year. I also bought Pro-Mix HP w/ Mycorrhizae & Pro-Mix Connect Mycorrhizae for starting the seeds. Gaia says it's good from Seed to Harvest. Others say Primal Earth is indeed HOT and requires 12" plants before transplanting into Primal earth. My question is; -Does anyone know if Primal Earth is too HOT and likely to burn my seedlings? -After initially planting into Primal Earth, when is likely the best time to begin adding All Purpose 4-4-4 to Primal Earth for optimal growing?

Hi, I was wondering if you ever found more info about the primal earth? I had my seedling in some organic seedling soil and was being told to transplant in a reddit forum ( I didn't need my arm twisting as an over eager new grower ) I transplanted to a 5 gallon fabric pot and proceeded to heavily overwater my primal earth. She's been struggling ever since with overwatering but I also feel I am seeing nutrient burn issues that I am assuming is the primal earth after seeing you mention it may be to hot for seedling. Hope your grow is going well. Cheers

Dray451 said:

Hi, I was wondering if you ever found more info about the primal earth? I had my seedling in some organic seedling soil and was being told to transplant in a reddit forum ( I didn't need my arm twisting as an over eager new grower ) I transplanted to a 5 gallon fabric pot and proceeded to heavily overwater my primal earth. She's been struggling ever since with overwatering but I also feel I am seeing nutrient burn issues that I am assuming is the primal earth after seeing you mention it may be to hot for seedling. Hope your grow is going well. Cheers

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you got picks?

toomp said:

you got picks?

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Unfortunately she died so I deleted all the pics. Had a new seed pop through the seedling soil today so giving her another go. This time I'm doing a clear solo cup ( inside a red to protect roots ) so I'll know when it's time to transplant. I think the roots weren't ready for such a rich soil then I went and over watered. Any tips for growing with this soil? I think I'm going to go heavy on the perlite this time.

Dray451 said:

Unfortunately she died so I deleted all the pics. Had a new seed pop through the seedling soil today so giving her another go. This time I'm doing a clear solo cup ( inside a red to protect roots ) so I'll know when it's time to transplant. I think the roots weren't ready for such a rich soil then I went and over watered. Any tips for growing with this soil? I think I'm going to go heavy on the perlite this time.

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I have never used that soil. only soil i ever used that shows npk is miracle gro about half the npk of your soil so its cool that some organic companies are doing it. if you think its too hot you can cut it with peat and perlite.

toomp said:

I have never used that soil. only soil i ever used that shows npk is miracle gro about half the npk of your soil so its cool that some organic companies are doing it. if you think its too hot you can cut it with peat and perlite.

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Ok, thans for the info. I had planned going about 40 % perlite this time but will look into some more peat as well. Cheers

Dray451 said:

Unfortunately she died so I deleted all the pics. Had a new seed pop through the seedling soil today so giving her another go. This time I'm doing a clear solo cup ( inside a red to protect roots ) so I'll know when it's time to transplant. I think the roots weren't ready for such a rich soil then I went and over watered. Any tips for growing with this soil? I think I'm going to go heavy on the perlite this time.

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word of warning, clear solo cups not a great idea, light gets to the roots and will kill them off, place the clear solo cup into a darkened one to protect them

you can try making planting holes and filling them with a good potting compost mixed with a little of the super soil, that way the roots will build up a tollerance to it as they grpow in the soil mixture

go go kid said:

word of warning, clear solo cups not a great idea, light gets to the roots and will kill them off, place the clear solo cup into a darkened one to protect them

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I had read that so yes the clear cup is inside a darkened one (with lined up drainage holes) Thanks for looking out.

go go kid said:

you can try making planting holes and filling them with a good potting compost mixed with a little of the super soil, that way the roots will build up a tollerance to it as they grpow in the soil mixture

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Thanks, l'll look into planting holes more.

So many companies trying to over complicate soil/planting mixes for growing mary Jane. Personally I start with seedling mix then transplant to a mixture of local raised bed planting mixes add a little perlite to improve drainage. Topdress Dr. earth veg if needed then switch to flower girl, little bone meal and if needed a little liquid flower booster I have around from previous grows before learning about the ease of granular amendments.

farmingfisherman said:

So many companies trying to over complicate soil/planting mixes for growing mary Jane. Personally I start with seedling mix then transplant to a mixture of local raised bed planting mixes add a little perlite to improve drainage. Topdress Dr. earth veg if needed then switch to flower girl, little bone meal and if needed a little liquid flower booster I have around from previous grows before learning about the ease of granular amendments.

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thanx man, i was thinking it was the homemade super soil mixture peeps are making, that can be hot if its not cooked enough..
i aggree with you, people making it far too complicated, a good potting compost properly amended woirks just fine if you ask me, feed it with compost/ewc/bat guano/molasses etc tea's works great, you can also use stuff like boridge and comfrey liquid too,

farmingfisherman said:

So many companies trying to over complicate soil/planting mixes for growing mary Jane. Personally I start with seedling mix then transplant to a mixture of local raised bed planting mixes add a little perlite to improve drainage. Topdress Dr. earth veg if needed then switch to flower girl, little bone meal and if needed a little liquid flower booster I have around from previous grows before learning about the ease of granular amendments.

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bone meal needs to be blitsed up in a grinder, as it can take a long time to break down, just use spareingly and top dress with it and other stuff

go go kid said:

word of warning, clear solo cups not a great idea, light gets to the roots and will kill them off, place the clear solo cup into a darkened one to protect them

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Never ever had a problems with clear cups personally in soil/coir. When plants has covered all sides with roots they're already ready to transplant and in that short period of time there's not enough time for any algae to grow.

In hydro and flowering plants then it's a whole other deal when you use the same container for 10+ weeks.

Wastei said:

Never ever had a problems with clear cups personally in soil/coir. When plants has covered all sides with roots they're already ready to transplant and in that short period of time there's not enough time for any algae to grow.

In hydro and flowering plants then it's a whole other deal when you use the same container for 10+ weeks.

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yeah, in clear pots, soil grown plants roots will be harmed if left in too strong a light, at least thats my experiance. it may not be critical damage, but it will damage the tips and stop them from developing, but again, this is under strong light or day/sun light