Is Biden really that bad?

cannabineer said:

Klaus Schwab, not the brokerage firm

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as opposed to Les Schwab the tire guy

Biden's approval ratings are so low that dems are keeping the senate and possibly the house

Trump's "endorsement" of cringy candidates (delivered at rallys where he mostly aired his own grievances and touted himself) doesn't seem to have worked out very well for the GOP

Sir Napsalot said:

Trump's "endorsement" of cringy candidates (delivered at rallys where he mostly aired his own grievances and touted himself) doesn't seem to have worked out very well for the GOP

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It seems like it may have paved the way for him to hopefully move on..

PJ Diaz said:

The only reason that Mayor Pete ever got as far as he has is because he's another one of those politicians who have sold out to Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum. He was a "Young Leader" for the WEF before he ran for president.

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Pete Buttigieg

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So what your saying is mayor Pete is the democratist Democrat to dem. Rich people shit is kinda on brand for them, has been for a long time.

HGCC said:

I wish mayor Pete had that vp spot, maybe let Beto hang out as vp like Kato in OJs pool house. Whoever is in that role as VP goes into 2024 (if Joe doesn't run) with a strong set of credentials. It doesn't seem like harris is doing much with it, it would be good to try and build the next generation of leaders. Buttigieg was a decent candidate IMHO, lack of experience held him back.

Newsom does seem like the only alternative option to biden from the political arena, I'm good with making America California. A couple other governors come up, but I don't think so. Idk, Joe is kinda the only game in town. Cory booker will run, some lincoln project republican, a billionaire. I don't see anyone that is more attractive as a candidate than Joe.

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Jon Stewart, Michelle Obama, Newsome....Cory Booker and Pete would make good vp material, but they both need to be in the game longer before they try for anything more. Harris i think would be up to the job, but she seems to be doing zero to try to move up to it, it seems like she's comfortable where she is. Warren, to me at least, is a little too much like Bernie to be electable, same with Bernie himself, perveived as way too left (i know) to be a viable candidate. Klobuchar seems to be capable, but i've heard multiple reports that shes very unpleasant to work for/with...no idea if that's true, but we don't need any more of that after 4 years of trump...
i personally would like to see a Newsome/Stewart pairing, i think between the two of them they could stomp desantis or w/e fascist fuck the republicans put up for sacrifice into the mud. i would love to see desantis debate either one of them, they'd both school him bad, he has the personality of a cockroach.

Harris should get credit for being in something like 36 states rallying for the midterms for the Democratic Party. With the importance of issues such as women's rights was in this election and her ability to speak to it, I think her contribution is pretty underrated.

I think she has done a solid job as VP and don't see any reason for her to step aside.

hanimmal said:

Harris should get credit for being in something like 36 states rallying for the midterms for the Democratic Party. With the importance of issues such as women's rights was in this election and her ability to speak to it, I think her contribution is pretty underrated.

I think she has done a solid job as VP and don't see any reason for her to step aside.

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i didn't suggest she should, just that it seems to me that she has publicly expressed zero interest in becoming president. that could be out of deference to Biden, it could be because she hasn't made up her mind yet, or it could be because she doesn't want to subject herself to that kind of abuse and danger (you think rednecks wouldn't love to kill a latina president? or her kids?)...while i personally would rather see Newsom and/or Stewart, i wouldn't turn up my nose at Harris or refuse to vote for her.

Roger A. Shrubber said:

i didn't suggest she should, just that it seems to me that she has publicly expressed zero interest in becoming president. that could be out of deference to Biden, it could be because she hasn't made up her mind yet, or it could be because she doesn't want to subject herself to that kind of abuse and danger (you think rednecks wouldn't love to kill a latina president? or her kids?)...while i personally would rather see Newsom and/or Stewart, i wouldn't turn up my nose at Harris or refuse to vote for her.

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Yeah I think it is pretty much guaranteed as soon as she started saying something like that the news would blow up how she is out to take Biden's job. The VP is pretty background position that is not supposed to outshine the POTUS outside of taking some heat off of them here and there maybe.

Her running for the Democratic nominee in 2020 shows she wants it, and is willing to put up with the nonsense.

hanimmal said:

Yeah I think it is pretty much guaranteed as soon as she started saying something like that the news would blow up how she is out to take Biden's job. The VP is pretty background position that is not supposed to outshine the POTUS outside of taking some heat off of them here and there maybe.

Her running for the Democratic nominee in 2020 shows she wants it, and is willing to put up with the nonsense.

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The VP job is the worst job for a politician. Most of the time you’re languishing in political purgatory and if you’re getting a lot of press, it’s probably a bad thing.

if we cannot talk and debate properly you can be removed from discussion.

its pretty simply you cannot call people names,

why do i miss all the good shit? who called who what?

Roger A. Shrubber said:

Newsome/Stewart pairing, i think between the two of them they could stomp desantis or w/e fascist fuck the republicans put up for sacrifice into the mud. i would love to see desantis debate either one of them, they'd both school him bad, he has the personality of a cockroach.

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I think they would crush it. Jon is my top pick. I do worry that Newsom would be seen as a CA liberal and wouldn't be that appealing in the midwest/rust belt places, Biden is a good fit there and I think that was one of his stronger points.

Idk about Harris, I don't think she is that appealing as a candidate and would be a mistake to run. More than ever I see the presidential election as just a popularity contest. They need to run charismatic people. Ideally those charismatic folks can hire well.

HGCC said:

I think they would crush it. Jon is my top pick. I do worry that Newsom would be seen as a CA liberal and wouldn't be that appealing in the midwest/rust belt places, Biden is a good fit there and I think that was one of his stronger points.

Idk about Harris, I don't think she is that appealing as a candidate and would be a mistake to run. More than ever I see the presidential election as just a popularity contest. They need to run charismatic people. Ideally those charismatic folks can hire well.

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you're right, it is a popularity contest, for way too large a segment of the population.
too many people rely on others to tell them what to think, eat, wear, do...when you adopt the opinions of others blindly, you aren't exercising a right, you're shirking a responsibility.

hanimmal said:

Yeah I think it is pretty much guaranteed as soon as she started saying something like that the news would blow up how she is out to take Biden's job. The VP is pretty background position that is not supposed to outshine the POTUS outside of taking some heat off of them here and there maybe.

Her running for the Democratic nominee in 2020 shows she wants it, and is willing to put up with the nonsense.

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Every now and then we get a VP who gets some of the limelight by the simple expedient of being an utter (flightless antarctic bird). Agnew and Quayle come to mind.

I'd vote for Al Gore.

doublejj said:

If you would like to compare and contrast I believe that in Florida the republicans have a supermajority....

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Florida's GOP candidates for state house seats are incredible. The statewide race results in 2020 were 49.5% dems and 50.5% gop, yet they were able to secure 67% of the house seats. Simply incredible.

in·cred·i·ble
/inˈkredəb(ə)l/
1. impossible to believe.
2. difficult to believe; extraordinary.

man, don’t’cha just hate it when the first post of a page is a reaction post to oh damn where’s the page turner thing?

Our strategic oil reserves are not meant for Biden to use to keep gas prices down because of his shitty policies. Lowest reserve level since 1983 now.