Is Biden really that bad?

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Fogdog

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Here’s a game plan: Biden replaces Harris with Newsom and then resigns
It would be a nice change if we had a vice president with something to do. I'm all for it. Require that a VP be a sitting governor.
 

CunningCanuk

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Here’s a game plan: Biden replaces Harris with Newsom and then resigns
I hate to say it but I agree with Peej on this one.

This plan looks like another way to undermine the will of the people to me. Nobody elected Newsom to be president. When I read shit like this it makes me wonder how many Americans are actually in favour of a democratic government.

Instead of running some kind of an angle to appoint a more popular person to be president, Democrats should stick with the president the American people elected and leave the fascist games to the Republicans.

Yes, Biden and Harris are unpopular now but they shouldn’t be. Biden is doing an incredible job and like DIY said, history will be kinder to him than todays opinion polls.
 

cannabineer

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I hate to say it but I agree with Peej on this one.

This plan looks like another way to undermine the will of the people to me. Nobody elected Newsom to be president. When I read shit like this it makes me wonder how many Americans are actually in favour of a democratic government.

Instead of running some kind of an angle to appoint a more popular person to be president, Democrats should stick with the president the American people elected and leave the fascist games to the Republicans.

Yes, Biden and Harris are unpopular now but they shouldn’t be. Biden is doing an incredible job and like DIY said, history will be kinder to him than todays opinion polls.
Biden would not even consider it. It would be disloyal to his Vice President, at the very least. And that is not who he is.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I hate to say it but I agree with Peej on this one.

This plan looks like another way to undermine the will of the people to me. Nobody elected Newsom to be president. When I read shit like this it makes me wonder how many Americans are actually in favour of a democratic government.

Instead of running some kind of an angle to appoint a more popular person to be president, Democrats should stick with the president the American people elected and leave the fascist games to the Republicans.

Yes, Biden and Harris are unpopular now but they shouldn’t be. Biden is doing an incredible job and like DIY said, history will be kinder to him than todays opinion polls.
Newsome should throw his hat in the ring like everybody else come nomination season, including Harris. He has a good record to run on and would energize youth, who can make a difference with a well-executed ground game using big data to identify them and volunteers to real world contact them. See what they can do to speed up the generational and democratic shift. Social issues can bring out the young, things like abortion energize young women and climate change does it for many of them. If the republicans want a culture war, give them one by accelerating demographic change. Statehood for DC and Puerto Rico if they can too, there are lots of them living in Florida now too.
 

doublejj

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I just read up on the California Legislative council and what they do. Why would you want to disband it?

Am I missing something?
It was conversation we were having about how to deal with the possible decline of Joe Biden and possible solutions. it was based on an article in thehill.com. It was an idea to replace Biden with Gavin Newsome.
 

doublejj

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I hate to say it but I agree with Peej on this one.

This plan looks like another way to undermine the will of the people to me. Nobody elected Newsom to be president. When I read shit like this it makes me wonder how many Americans are actually in favour of a democratic government.

Instead of running some kind of an angle to appoint a more popular person to be president, Democrats should stick with the president the American people elected and leave the fascist games to the Republicans.

Yes, Biden and Harris are unpopular now but they shouldn’t be. Biden is doing an incredible job and like DIY said, history will be kinder to him than todays opinion polls.
The will of the people in California is to have a supermajority .....and all that that implies.
 

doublejj

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Great idea, next we can just go ahead and make it a dictatorship too!

"Disband the office of legislative counsel...."

Wow, and I thought that the Democrats were trying to save Democracy, not destroy it. True colors.
Having a supermajority has a few benefits...will of the people
 

DIY-HP-LED

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It was about what could be done...possibilities
If it was to defeat a threat to the constitution and liberal democracy, then a lot of latitude is permitted. However, for mere political purposes not so much. A more traditional dirty trick would be for Joe to knock off a house republican in a state with a democratic governor to get the majority by offering a plum job or ambassadorship to them. It's been done before; Joe and Nancy could find the vulnerable in a one seat majority, they are republicans remember and are no strangers to cutting throats and backstabbing! Also, one of them could be indicted, because there are some real criminals among them Gaetz included.
 
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