LoudBlunts
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i wish i could join you bro....
i need a place to relax my mind and just one with 'nature'
i need a place to relax my mind and just one with 'nature'
Iowa vs louisiana
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gogrow
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wish i could man; but we actually get a free night tonight, got a babysitter; but have out o'state company coming in tomorrow, so have to clean up....you could come out here, play guitar and do some thinkin
....hell, we even have a riverNatures for pussies
SocataSmoker
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Are you unnatural?
LoudBlunts
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???????????
SmokinPurp
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I'll be in the NOLA next weekend! I love living within driving distance of the city. It's one of the greatest places on earth.
SocataSmoker
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Who wants some jambalaya?!
Don't forget Spoken Word creole!
Don't forget Spoken Word creole!
blackcoupe01
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I was born and raised in La. Moved to SC and go to Savannah a lot, your alowed open containers there too. Food sucks compared to back home, but the weed is better quality here. Also, cant compare these two states, La is hardcore, especially Nawlins, murder capital of the world is what we always called it growing up. Compare crime rates of the two states, youll prob find theres more violent crimes in the city of New Orleans than the entire state of Iowa, part of the reason I left, got caught up in it too deep.
cool14001
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When people feel like they are treated poorly, they feel like they are justified in acting in ways they normally wouldn't. For other's, the streets of NOLA taught them to take advantage of an opportunity. When there are flooded stores with valuable things in them many people justified their actions by saying, either its going to get ruined or someone else is going to take it. The crowded urban area also added to the problem. People do things in crowds that they wouldn't if alone, for example, many people would not smoke a bowl in front of a cop in a park, but at a concert it is a non-issue especially when (I hate this term but) especially when "everyone else is doing it".
SocataSmoker
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Holy crap, thanks for bringing this one back to the top... I had deleted every old picture of my life before moving up to Alaska... now at least I have some of the better memories of life down home 
RetiredToker76
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Iowa v Louisiana...
First of all to describe the two events isn't quite even playing fields due to multiple reasons, type of disaster, area's effected, people effected, and differing speed of the disasters. The people of the two area's were a huge factor in the way the media portrayed the two disasters.
Point of knowledge, I worked hurricane relief just outside of New Orleans a few weeks after the storm. I was born and raised in Iowa. I've got a pretty good grasp of what the difference between these situations was.
The area's that we're reported by the media in Louisiana were primarily the urban areas. Urban area's are vastly different from rural areas. Yes I know Des Moines and Cedar Rapids are 'urban' but please use that term loosely when describing Iowa, there aren't really any massive sprawling cities there, they're more like rural towns that just got bigger.
Vast urban areas like NO, Miami, New York, LA, and Chicago will always issues during disaster situations because the people who were born and live in urban area's aren't very independent. I'm not saying anything negative here it's just a fact. Most urban dwellers have no idea how to get clean water, grow food, make clothing, and construct shelter without the assistance of city, county, state, federal or corporate programs. Anyone here from a major city know how to get clean water from a creek, how to can food, or how to sew your own clothes? I would guess very few, no matter what social class or race they are.
Iowans, being primarily rural, are used to having either bad governmental supply lines or none at all. In most small towns you'll find that a majority of the people have wells and water purification systems in their homes. You'll also find that usually 1 or more people in the household know how to sew almost any kind of clothing. Many Iowans, myself included, have gardens (of food) and know how to properly can our food for the winter months.
There is also a regional difference. Iowans tend to be fiercely independent to the point that they are likely to not accept any 'help' from the government simply because they'd rather do it themselves.
I had friends and family members effected by the Iowa floods. I know two people who lost their houses and insurance was either slow or non-existent in both cases. What they did was barter services with their friends and neighbors. Ultimately they got their houses rebuilt for next to no cash because they offered services in trade.
The urban areas effected by Katrina that were reported in the news were the areas that had been urban for several hundred years. There was no familial 'education' on how to survive without community services. So people had no knowledge of how to grow food, make clothes, purify water, or survive without electricity. The result was unrest, looting and violence.
I'm not saying that there weren't Iowans who didn't accept fema money and services or that all the people in Louisiana are completely ignorant. It's just a difference between rural life and urban life. Most people panic if their lights go out for two hours.
When I lived in Iowa we got used to living without power for weeks and occasionally more than a month during hard winters. We survived using wood burning stoves. We distilled our own water and ate what we had canned the summer before. To keep things cold we tossed them out in the snow. If problems arrived in the summer many people had generators and ice makers as a function of living on a farm although service interruption in Iowa during the summer was rare. Some of our neighbors even had windmill electricity they generated and stored in batteries, they were totally off the grid.
I actually am nervous living outside of Iowa and being dependant upon services myself. I grew up canning, sewing, and making my own food and became an urban dweller as a teen and haven't left since. I'm not sure I could return to that way of life in an instant if I had to. I have a water purification still, it's slow but it works. I also have two sewing machines, and all the canning equipment I need, but the soil down here SUCKS!! I've tried multiple gardens but nothing will grow down here unless you do it in pots or hydropnically. The first is way too tedious for a massive food grow and hydroponics is way too expensive for several hundred plants that don't yield a nice profit.
Different areas react to service interruption differently. You didn't hear a lot of 'FEMA help me' cries in the media from the farming communities in Louisiana because they lived more like Iowans. The little bit you did hear out of Iowa were the few urbanites that live there. Proportionally more urban areas in Louisnana were hit than urban area's in Iowa. That's the answer.
I personally feel that if the sh1t were to hit the fan and all social services were ending I would much rather be in Iowa than the urban center I'm now in, the chances for survival expaned exponentially where farming/gardening is easy and available. If you can't grow something in Iowa you should just be removed from the gene pool because all you have to do is drop a seed.
-RT76
First of all to describe the two events isn't quite even playing fields due to multiple reasons, type of disaster, area's effected, people effected, and differing speed of the disasters. The people of the two area's were a huge factor in the way the media portrayed the two disasters.
Point of knowledge, I worked hurricane relief just outside of New Orleans a few weeks after the storm. I was born and raised in Iowa. I've got a pretty good grasp of what the difference between these situations was.
The area's that we're reported by the media in Louisiana were primarily the urban areas. Urban area's are vastly different from rural areas. Yes I know Des Moines and Cedar Rapids are 'urban' but please use that term loosely when describing Iowa, there aren't really any massive sprawling cities there, they're more like rural towns that just got bigger.
Vast urban areas like NO, Miami, New York, LA, and Chicago will always issues during disaster situations because the people who were born and live in urban area's aren't very independent. I'm not saying anything negative here it's just a fact. Most urban dwellers have no idea how to get clean water, grow food, make clothing, and construct shelter without the assistance of city, county, state, federal or corporate programs. Anyone here from a major city know how to get clean water from a creek, how to can food, or how to sew your own clothes? I would guess very few, no matter what social class or race they are.
Iowans, being primarily rural, are used to having either bad governmental supply lines or none at all. In most small towns you'll find that a majority of the people have wells and water purification systems in their homes. You'll also find that usually 1 or more people in the household know how to sew almost any kind of clothing. Many Iowans, myself included, have gardens (of food) and know how to properly can our food for the winter months.
There is also a regional difference. Iowans tend to be fiercely independent to the point that they are likely to not accept any 'help' from the government simply because they'd rather do it themselves.
I had friends and family members effected by the Iowa floods. I know two people who lost their houses and insurance was either slow or non-existent in both cases. What they did was barter services with their friends and neighbors. Ultimately they got their houses rebuilt for next to no cash because they offered services in trade.
The urban areas effected by Katrina that were reported in the news were the areas that had been urban for several hundred years. There was no familial 'education' on how to survive without community services. So people had no knowledge of how to grow food, make clothes, purify water, or survive without electricity. The result was unrest, looting and violence.
I'm not saying that there weren't Iowans who didn't accept fema money and services or that all the people in Louisiana are completely ignorant. It's just a difference between rural life and urban life. Most people panic if their lights go out for two hours.
When I lived in Iowa we got used to living without power for weeks and occasionally more than a month during hard winters. We survived using wood burning stoves. We distilled our own water and ate what we had canned the summer before. To keep things cold we tossed them out in the snow. If problems arrived in the summer many people had generators and ice makers as a function of living on a farm although service interruption in Iowa during the summer was rare. Some of our neighbors even had windmill electricity they generated and stored in batteries, they were totally off the grid.
I actually am nervous living outside of Iowa and being dependant upon services myself. I grew up canning, sewing, and making my own food and became an urban dweller as a teen and haven't left since. I'm not sure I could return to that way of life in an instant if I had to. I have a water purification still, it's slow but it works. I also have two sewing machines, and all the canning equipment I need, but the soil down here SUCKS!! I've tried multiple gardens but nothing will grow down here unless you do it in pots or hydropnically. The first is way too tedious for a massive food grow and hydroponics is way too expensive for several hundred plants that don't yield a nice profit.
Different areas react to service interruption differently. You didn't hear a lot of 'FEMA help me' cries in the media from the farming communities in Louisiana because they lived more like Iowans. The little bit you did hear out of Iowa were the few urbanites that live there. Proportionally more urban areas in Louisnana were hit than urban area's in Iowa. That's the answer.
I personally feel that if the sh1t were to hit the fan and all social services were ending I would much rather be in Iowa than the urban center I'm now in, the chances for survival expaned exponentially where farming/gardening is easy and available. If you can't grow something in Iowa you should just be removed from the gene pool because all you have to do is drop a seed.
-RT76