Indoor Grow (1st try) Please Give Me Feedback

SmoltimeGrow said:

Added fresh oxygen lol; that’s what my thought process was at least. Plus, would keep the temp down a bit more. Still hits a high of 85 and I’d like to keep it between 75-80

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Nature abhors a vacuum. An exhaust fan will cause negative pressure in the tent and air will rush in through open vents. You still get fresh air exchange.

SmoltimeGrow said:

The roots in my DWC buckets have grown a lot and are now submerged in the water again. Should I decrease the level of water or is it okay that they’re partially submerged?
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If you have adequate airflow, then you really should be keeping the roots totally submerged. In a properly aerated DWC setup, the roots get plenty of air while submerged because of the DO being created from all of the surface movement from the air bubbles. This will maximize your root's surface to water contact, increase PH stability as it's a larger volume, increase temp stability, and avoid those nasty and inefficient coord roots. If your air pump is so weak that keeping the roots submerged make your plants look droopy and overwatered, upgrade air pumps...in DWC, this is one of the most crucial factors and is worth a little extra $. I use a 110lpm pump for 4 5gal DWC buckets, but an airpump as weak as 50-60lpm would be capable of supporting 4 5gal buckets...not optimal, but adequate.

Logan Burke said:

If you have adequate airflow, then you really should be keeping the roots totally submerged. In a properly aerated DWC setup, the roots get plenty of air while submerged because of the DO being created from all of the surface movement from the air bubbles. This will maximize your root's surface to water contact, increase PH stability as it's a larger volume, increase temp stability, and avoid those nasty and inefficient coord roots. If your air pump is so weak that keeping the roots submerged make your plants look droopy and overwatered, upgrade air pumps...in DWC, this is one of the most crucial factors and is worth a little extra $. I use a 110lpm pump for 4 5gal DWC buckets, but an airpump as weak as 50-60lpm would be capable of supporting 4 5gal buckets...not optimal, but adequate.

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Is there anyway to give it too much air? I actually have a larger one sitting here unused and can stick an addition stone in each.

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The only circumstance that you could give too much air is that if the agitation of the surface of the water is so violent that it actually stresses or even tares the roots. With that being said, I've blasted a single 5 gallon bucket with roughly 100LPM's of air and it still wasn't even close to being so violent that it harmed the roots. I'd say you're good to go. I will say though, that with more air to the root zone usually means more heat. So long as it isn't heating the water above that goldy lock zone of 65-72F, you're good to go! If you have issues with water temps let me know, I do know some easy yet effective tips to help reduce your water temp.

Just wrapped up transplanting 4 out of 6 of them today. I germinated the other two a couple weeks later than the first set, so the last two will have some catching up to do... but the ones that are on schedule are in great shape!
I’m using pure clover as a top crop; will chop them up when blooming time comes. But for the next 6-8 weeks, I’m guna veg these babies harrrd

LST question...

so I just topped all of my plants and was thinking of how to LST them for better surface area inthe eventual canopy.... idk that it’s totally necessary though. It seems like my plants are growing pretty well on their own and I think I’d be fine if I just let them grow till it was time to scrog them (grow them upwards another 12-18”) and then doingtrimming to the underneath... how and why should I LST these plants

(Don’t tell me to do research) I’ve done plenty of reading and understand the point. What I’m asking is that do you need to do any LST if the plants are already growing what looks like will be a flat/tight canopy

I did it anyway. Lmk any tips or things I might’ve fucked up

SmoltimeGrow said:

I highly doubt I have to worry about pest problem. I live in a loft on a high floor in a mill. The tent is in my bedroom and I have a very sterile and clean environment. Only way I’d get them is from the roots organics soil and they have a claim on their website that says pest free.
let me know if I’m wrong though; just explaining the circumstances.
I’ll look more into the TMD; will definitely keep an eye out but it doesn’t really seem to be too much of an issue right now. so I’ll justhave to wait and see what happens.. Ihave a local buddy that I could end up getting some clones from if everything goes upside down

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First thing I was told about growing indoors is if you grow in soil you will have pests. I read all the time ppl write-up that the pests must have come from the bag they bought...it just gives them a habitat.

PissingNutes said:

First thing I was told about growing indoors is if you grow in soil you will have pests. I read all the time ppl write-up that the pests must have come from the bag they bought...it just gives them a habitat.

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im definitely keeping a close eye out for any unwanted pests; but I should be alright... definitely don’t have any right now and if they were to come from the soil, i figured they’d come out by now?

And you can get a few of those white polyester suits in your loft to make sure nothing comes frome outside. JK

PissingNutes said:

And you can get a few of those white polyester suits in your loft to make sure nothing comes frome outside. JK

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Hahahaha, there’s no room leftover for one of those things. But I do try wearing gloves anytime I’m in the tent. And I keep a very clean and tidy apartment

myke said:

Root aphids in hydro are easy to rid. H202 raise the water level to cover the net pot and the nymphs are dead. Easy also to run water through the top or spray the underside.

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Yeah but the thing is, when the time comes to try get rid of them, damage is already done. Its easier to not get them in the first place. At least you know now what to do if you do get them

I left for work for 3 days and two of the saplings I had going died. But everything else has grown great!

SmoltimeGrow said:

I left for work for 3 days and two of the saplings I had going died. But everything else has grown great!

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Is that 2 plants in the hydro bucket? Also what else are you growing in the dirt? Did you spread some sort of seeds in the tops of your pots?

Darkoh69 said:

Is that 2 plants in the hydro bucket? Also what else are you growing in the dirt? Did you spread some sort of seeds in the tops of your pots?

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Yeah, there’s two in there. I got one with one plant and one with two. I have a soil mix with two in it as well. Just wanted to do some testing and comparisons to yield of two in one vs one alone.
And yeah, top crop is pure clover. Plants are still a little small so it’s a tad too much nitrogen for not (will plant later in veg next time) but they’ll grow with it. Should be fine

After putting down some LST. I tried a few different forms of stress training here.

One of the two in the single DWC bucket was broken at the main stem, just below where new growth occurred (further down than typically recommended in topping); figured that the lower level canopy would have the room to grow vertically and “fill the hole” where the main stem was broken. Creating a very nice and even canopy.

two of the soil mixes were trimmed. I only took off the bottom leaves that weren’t getting light, andany duckfoot leaves below where I want the canopy to be.

one of the others, I’m attempting to do a “spiral-like” LST where the canopy will grow from outside to in.Doing this by bending to a fat side, then turning the plant every day or two and reapplying new ties.

the DWCthats solo will be left with nothing more than a topping. Eventually, as it grows out a bit more, I’ll do some super cropping around the base of the bud nodes. By that time, I should have an individual screen over it so I can scrog the canopy and will likely tie it the new growth down to the top of the screen; idea is that it’ll force the plant to grow along the top of the screen and I may be able to add more screen to scab it all together to make it run up the wall a little bit as well. So almost like taking a scrog method, but forcing the plant to continue the growth vertically as well as horizontally.

the others are all undergoing traditional methods of LST and topping.
The reason I’m trying all these different things is for fun. I’ve done enough research on how plants grow and what makes certain methods increase yields that I want to test some theories out. I know some of you will say “all been done before” & “follow the rule book, stop thinking outside the box”. Don’t really need that sort of feedback. I’m well aware of what I’m doing and what I plan to get out of doing this... finding a fun way of growing my own cannabis that is unique and rewarding.
Pics are as of today. I’m sure in a week, they will start to be pretty bushy.

So I don't understand why your asking everyone for feedback & tips when you obviously know it all, when you know it all you wont learn anything else which in your case is a bad thing because everything you think you know you've never done. Now dont get me wrong, this is neither a tip nor feedback just something Ive learned over the years that I'd like to share with you

Darkoh69 said:

So I don't understand why your asking everyone for feedback & tips when you obviously know it all, when you know it all you wont learn anything else which in your case is a bad thing because everything you think you know you've never done. Now dont get me wrong, this is neither a tip nor feedback just something Ive learned over the years that I'd like to share with you

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Yeah, I was looking for feedback about problems that might occur. Like nutrient toxicity or deficiencies. Maybe pests I haven’t considered. That sort of thing.

I’ve done 4 outdoor grows; all with a couple friends. Was a few years ago but this is my first time doing it indoors. Nutrients are pretty new to me and so is stress training. That’s why I specifically said that I’m doing these different things for fun and to test some theories.
Thanks for the advice, but the way I live my life is through Socratic philosophies; one of which is “I am the wisest man alive for I know that I know nothing...” directly meaning that claiming to know shit that you don’t know isn’t wise.
Making assumptions about someone so that it fits how you feel, is pretty ignorant. Ironic, isn’t it.

/edit: btw. What’re your thoughts on possibly having a slight nitrogen toxicity from using pure clover as my top crop?

Must've hit a nerve. I'll try not to push any more buttons cause Im really keen to see how this grow goes for you

Transplanted last two into their 3Gal buckets. The extra one on top is just a spare in case I kill something or another turns out to be male. I didn’t plant any clover in these two because the others seem to be getting a slight nitrogen overload. So I’ll wait a few weeks till their bigger before throwing on the clover. Also did some slight rearranging. Pulled the 5gals to the outsides so that the light is more easily distributed in the room and so ya easier to work with. (The one in back left corner is the one I will try growing vertically when it gets bigger)

I also found a way to use my 4 nozzle air pump. The DwC plants seemed to have onset root rot; orcould be a discoloration fromnutes.. either way, Icouldn’t use it before because my downstairs neighbors could hear it humming.. so I took some workout floor material and some soundproofingmaterial I had laying around and made mini vibration absorbing stands. Pics of construction below. I can hardly hearit at all anymore and it’s pumping like 4 times the pressure I had before PLUS two extra pumps. These babies have plenty ofoxygen now!