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schuylaar

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travisw said:
Did you read your own link? If you did, after you read Republican operative, were you not the least bit skeptical?

Brady Toensing, a Republican operative in the state who filed complaints asking for the FBI probe in early 2016, said Mrs. Sanders exaggerated the amount of pledged donations coming into the school in order to secure the loan and that Mr. Sanders‘ office pressured the bank to green-light the deal.




The explosive allegation that Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., pressured a bank to loan money to a college run by his wife come from a former bank employee with no direct knowledge of the loan.

Republican attorney Brady Toensing sent a letter in May 2016 saying he was approached and informed that Sanders “improperly pressured” People’s United Bank to loan money to Burlington College when the senator’s wife was the school’s president.

Toensing’s source for that information was House Minority Leader Don Turner, R-Milton, a revelation first reported by Seven Days on Friday.

https://vtdigger.org/2017/07/02/source-sanders-bank-pressure-allegations-says-evidence-hearsay/



Just kidding. I honestly can't believe you guys are still trolling this fucking nonsense.
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no, they don't ever read their shit..they play telephone game..they wait until exhaulted leader bucky tells them, then they repeat what they 'think' they heard..meanwhile, the intial 'tell' is wrong to begin with, they make accusations all the time with nothing to back it up. ask for citation, they disappear until the next day when its trolled again.
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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schuylaar said:
no, they don't ever read their shit..they play telephone game..they wait until exhaulted leader bucky tells them, then they repeat what they 'think' they heard..meanwhile, the intial 'tell' is wrong to begin with, they make accusations all the time with nothing to back it up. ask for citation, they disappear until the next day when its trolled again.
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The FBI seem to think it's credible.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Fogdog said:
It's fair to point out that the source is an obvious enemy of Sanders, which should be a red flag for skepticism. As you point out that doesn't mean he's wrong. The bar for a grand jury investigation isn't very high, so the fact that there was enough evidence to investigate shouldn't be grounds for the public to convict Bernie. That said, we've had years of Democrats being dragged through the mud and convicted in the court of right wing public opinion on less than a grand jury investigation. Some liberals bought that shit too. So, for all those who jumped the gun when liberals were accused and not even investigated, eat my shit. By their standard, Sanders is guilty as all hell.

By my standard, I don't know. And I didn't buy it when other liberals were being discussed. Including the stupid idea that the DNC rigged the 2016 primary.
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This one will be easier to prove than most. Numbers don't lie and if she asked for a loan using inflated numbers then we shall see soon. I see they lawyered up rather quickly. I feel there is some there there.
Do you mind answering why and how do you accept a 200k parachute while bankrupting the very corp. you worked for. Seems like Bernard was against that type of shit.
 
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schuylaar

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londonfog said:
This one will be easier to prove than most. Numbers don't lie and if she asked for a loan using inflated numbers than we shall see soon. I see they lawered up rather quickly. I feel there is some there there.
Do you mind answering why and how do you except a 200k parachute while bankrupting the very corp. you worked for. Seems like Bernard was against that type of shit.
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feel.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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schuylaar said:
no, they don't ever read their shit..they play telephone game..they wait until exhaulted leader bucky tells them, then they repeat what they 'think' they heard..meanwhile, the intial 'tell' is wrong to begin with, they make accusations all the time with nothing to back it up. ask for citation, they disappear until the next day when its trolled again.
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lol...omg
 
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schuylaar

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Fogdog said:
It's fair to point out that the source is an obvious enemy of Sanders, which should be a red flag for skepticism. As you point out that doesn't mean he's wrong. The bar for a grand jury investigation isn't very high, so the fact that there was enough evidence to investigate shouldn't be grounds for the public to convict Bernie. That said, we've had years of Democrats being dragged through the mud and convicted in the court of right wing public opinion on less than a grand jury investigation. Some liberals bought that shit too. So, for all those who jumped the gun when liberals were accused and not even investigated, eat my shit. By their standard, Sanders is guilty as all hell.

By my standard, I don't know. And I didn't buy it when other liberals were being discussed. Including the stupid idea that the DNC rigged the 2016 primary.
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fair.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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schuylaar said:
no, they don't ever read their shit..they play telephone game..they wait until exhaulted leader bucky tells them, then they repeat what they 'think' they heard..meanwhile, the intial 'tell' is wrong to begin with, they make accusations all the time with nothing to back it up. ask for citation, they disappear until the next day when its started again.
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We'll know more when the investigation concludes.

It is a tawdry tale and nobody looks good. Still, there is nothing in public knowledge to even show that Bernie Sanders is part of the investigation other than statements from anonymous sources. Anything Toensing said should be disregarded at the outset.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/22/bernie-sanders-jane-sanders-lawyer-bank-fraud-investigation-burlington-college-215297
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Fogdog said:
We'll know more when the investigation concludes.

It is a tawdry tale and nobody looks good. Still, there is nothing in public knowledge to even show that Bernie Sanders is part of the investigation other than statements from anonymous sources. Anything Toensing said should be disregarded at the outset.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/22/bernie-sanders-jane-sanders-lawyer-bank-fraud-investigation-burlington-college-215297
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If she is guilty of what they are saying then Bernie is just as well. He knows and told her to do it doing pillow talk :D
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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londonfog said:
This one will be easier to prove than most. Numbers don't lie and if she asked for a loan using inflated numbers than we shall see soon. I see they lawyered up rather quickly. I feel there is some there there.
Do you mind answering why and how do you accept a 200k parachute while bankrupting the very corp. you worked for. Seems like Bernard was against that type of shit.
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Anybody can suspect something, or as you say, "feel there is some there there." And I like your honesty. Unlike people who ran about saying rigged when there was less evidence than what Jane Sanders has going against her, you say you have a feeling that she's done something wrong. The case against Bernie is the one I can't find much information on. Jane Sanders is the one with the dirt on her.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Fogdog said:
Anybody can suspect something, or as you say, "feel there is some there there." And I like your honesty. Unlike people who ran about saying rigged when there was less evidence than what Jane Sanders has going against her, you say you have a feeling that she's done something wrong. The case against Bernie is the one I can't find much information on. Jane Sanders is the one with the dirt on her.
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Bernie case would be much hardy to prove.
Janes should be easy as fuck.

Are you going to answer why Jane took that 200k from a bankrupt college that she help run into bankruptcy ? I thought the Burn was against that type of shit.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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londonfog said:
Does not mean it is not true. The numbers can't lie. either she had X amount of donation or she didnt

I also asked if you could explain why she took the 200k from a bankrupt university she ran into bankruptcy
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I'm not the FBI, I only know what I read. The evidence against Jane Sanders is public knowledge and what I've read says it looks bad for her.

As far as the golden parachute, that sort of shit has been going on far too long everywhere. A company I worked for, the CEO was fired for using company money to pay for the services of a woman who did little but accompany him on business trips as an "event manager". He sexually harassed her (because it was obvious to him what she was expected to do) then fired her because she rejected him. A lawsuit ensued, the board fired Mr CEO and gave him 10's of millions. The guy had mismanaged the company so badly that they later had to write off billions in value due to bad acquisitions. This is all to say that golden parachutes are part of the corporate landscape and I'm not at all surprised that Jane Sanders had some sort of language for a golden parachute written into her contract. She clipped the coupon and left. Sometimes it's cheaper for the organization to pay the CEO to go away. I don't like it but that's not the nub of the FBI investigation either.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Fogdog said:
Anybody can suspect something, or as you say, "feel there is some there there." And I like your honesty. Unlike people who ran about saying rigged when there was less evidence than what Jane Sanders has going against her, you say you have a feeling that she's done something wrong. The case against Bernie is the one I can't find much information on. Jane Sanders is the one with the dirt on her.
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and you do realize this investigation was started on Obamas watch 1-10-2016
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Fogdog said:
I'm not the FBI, I only know what I read. The evidence against Jane Sanders is public knowledge and what I've read says it looks bad for her.

As far as the golden parachute, that sort of shit has been going on far too long everywhere. A company I worked for, the CEO was fired for using company money to pay for the services of a woman who did little but accompany him on business trips as an "event manager". He sexually harassed her (because it was obvious to him what she was expected to do) then fired her because she rejected him. A lawsuit ensued, the board fired Mr CEO and gave him 10's of millions. The guy had mismanaged the company so badly that they later had to write off billions in value due to bad acquisitions. This is all to say that golden parachutes are part of the corporate landscape and I'm not at all surprised that Jane Sanders had some sort of language for a golden parachute written into her contract. She clipped the coupon and left. Sometimes it's cheaper for the organization to pay the CEO to go away. I don't like it but that's not the nub of the FBI investigation either.
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BULLSHIT.
Bernie preaches against this very payout shit his wife took. How the fuck you get money for fucking up. Bernie should have told his wife to give that fucking money back and to make sure she swallows with the blow job she will be required to give him that night...and have breakfast ready in the morning
 
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