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SneekyNinja

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Let me ask you all this...If Sanders would of somehow beat the system and miraculously got the super delegates and won the Democratic nomination...do you think he could of beat Trump in the general election?
Not a chance.

All they'd need to do is put his face in front of the Soviet Red Flag with "Socialist/Communist" on it and it would've been game over.
 

SneekyNinja

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That's the conventional wisdom, but even massively outspending her opponent didn't win Hillary the election.

The idea that only by taking corporate campaign donations can we install politicians who will outlaw campaign contributions is utterly bankrupt, logically, ethically and morally.

Such thinking is exactly how we got into this mess. It is neurotic at best to think that doing the same while expecting different results is the only way out.
The saying is "The definition of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result".

Now, tell me how winning the vote and being denied because of a system designed to give slave and farm States is failure in the conventional sense.

Try actually answer the question before launching into one of your ridiculous tirades.
 

ttystikk

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Let me ask you all this...If Sanders would of somehow beat the system and miraculously got the super delegates and won the Democratic nomination...do you think he could of beat Trump in the general election?
The term 'mop the floor with him' leaps to mind. The newly elected DNC chairman Tom Perez was greeted by crowds chanting exactly this sentiment when he went on the 'unification tour' with Bernie Sanders last winter!
 

SneekyNinja

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The term 'mop the floor with him' leaps to mind. The newly elected DNC chairman Tom Perez was greeted by crowds chanting exactly this sentiment when he went on the 'unification tour' with Bernie Sanders last winter!
Lol, mop the floor?

Are you actually fucking kidding me?

HE COULDN'T EVEN WIN THE DEMOCRAT PRIMARY, but yeah, the Red Hat MAGA idiots would voted for him...

You're delusional and retarded.
 

since1991

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Lol, mop the floor?

Are you actually fucking kidding me?

HE COULDN'T EVEN WIN THE DEMOCRAT PRIMARY, but yeah, the Red Hat MAGA idiots would voted for him...

You're delusional and retarded.
Do you honestly think he had a chance of winning the Democratic primary? Considering what he was up against with super delegates and DNC favoring Clinton? Didnt Dean cast his super delegate vote for Clinton even though he should of of did the "democratic" thing and put his support in the direction of his constituents? Of course he was doing the right thing no matter what primary voters wanted him to do.
 

ttystikk

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Do you honestly think he had a chance of winning the Democratic primary? Considering what he was up against with super delegates and DNC favoring Clinton? Didnt Dean cast his super delegate vote for Clinton even though he should of of did the "democratic" thing and put his support in the direction of his constituents? Of course he was doing the right thing no matter what primary voters wanted him to do.
He showed the the DNC is a corrupt organization and that superdelegates are in place to make certain the party doesn't have to listen to its members.

They were clumsy and arrogant about it and now they're paying the price in terms of credibility with their constituents.
 

st0wandgrow

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The saying is "The definition of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result".

Now, tell me how winning the vote and being denied because of a system designed to give slave and farm States is failure in the conventional sense.

Try actually answer the question before launching into one of your ridiculous tirades.
The polls suggested otherwise, and he had much higher favorability than Clinton. She was the most disliked candidate for potus (next to Trump) in the modern era of politics.

I don't know what you're basing your emphatic answer on.
 

dagwood45431

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bernie's large to small donor ratio was about 40% large to 60% small. hillary had 40% small donors and 60% large donors.

the whole fucking story about small donor support was mainly a myth.
And there appears to have been some deception at play in creating and nurturing the myth.
 

Fogdog

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What was his plan or lack thereof to win? I thought he gave it a hell of a try myself...considering the Clinton juggernaut machine he was up against. He certainly packed the seats during his run for the nomination. The DNC didnt like the fight he put up. They were shocked at the amount of people he garnered up to support him. What lack of plan??
I voted for Sanders and when he lost the nomination in the primaries, I was OK with Clinton as the nominee. So was Bernie. I don't understand what about "he lost" the cadre of Sanders supporters didn't understand. They've been crying about "rigged" ever since. Even helped get Trump elected as Prez.

I don't have a problem with Sanders, I still support the issues he ran on last year. Most progressives on this board including the ones who most strongly supported Clinton would have been OK with Sanders and not been in such a dither over a primary loss.

My concern is that these Sanders babies are going to split the party in 2018 over nothing. Also can't help but recognize and dislike their reliance on fake news for their talking points.
 
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