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Harrekin

Well-Known Member
No I totally understand the federal tax issue and cultivation bro.
My point is, guys like UB who choose NOT to work at a real job and pay taxes should not be ridiculing others who in fact do work and pay taxes for not paying enough, it's totally hypocritical, don't you agree?

UB has a choice, he prefers to stay home and not work, no one in their right mind is going to believe he cant hold down a steady job while taking care of the few plants he grows. And to be honest with you, that is fine but I don't feel it gives him any moral ground to complain about others not paying enough, while he pays ZIP! (pun intended)

Hell, I don't pay taxes on my own grows but I sure do running my business.
I'm just don't see the problem with people fully supporting themselves with gym equipment sales?

Trimming is a full time (fucking) job at harvest time, you get those stiff "trimmer's hands".

My point is why should someone HAVE to work aswell? Im sure the Doritos guy didn't have another job while inventing their delicious corn chips.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
I'm just don't see the problem with people fully supporting themselves with gym equipment sales?

Trimming is a full time (fucking) job at harvest time, you get those stiff "trimmer's hands".

My point is why should someone HAVE to work aswell? Im sure the Doritos guy didn't have another job while inventing their delicious corn chips.
why you gottat bring Monsieur Ignacio "Nacho" Dorito into this man? he was a genius of the 17th century and his contribution to science is nearly as well respected as those of Sir Albert Horatio Funyun, Professor Pappas "Pop" Tartesthenes of the university of Athens, and and Twinkie The Kid!

dont mess with the bulls son, you might get the horns!!
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
why you gottat bring Monsieur Ignacio "Nacho" Dorito into this man? he was a genius of the 17th century and his contribution to science is nearly as well respected as those of Sir Albert Horatio Funyun, Professor Pappas "Pop" Tartesthenes of the university of Athens, and and Twinkie The Kid!

dont mess with the bulls son, you might get the horns!!
That bull would then be fucking with the wrong potato.

Bull Stew in the Style of the CamargueTaureau Sauvage à la Gardiane
Region: France, Provence
Category: Stews
Season: Any
Difficulty: Easy but long cooking time
This rich dish from the Camargue of Provence is known as gardiane de taureau, boeuf à la gardiane, or simply la gardiane. Some people also make gardiane with lamb. In Córdoba in Andalusia there is another braised bull dish called rabo de toro with equally luscious flavors.


The bulls of the Camargue are a twentieth century introduction, for in the sixteenth century large-scale summer transhumance contolling the sheep flocks of the Camargue defined this area then infested with mosquitoes and afflicted with a high rate of unemployment. A remarkable effort of rural land development transformed the region at that time into a productive sheep- rearing land. But today the bulls have the predominant presence in the Camargue and gardiane, or bull stew, is a famous local specialty. I remember an excellent gardiane at the seaside restaurant of A La Brise de Mer in the small coastal town of Les Saintes Maries-de-la- Mer in the Camargue. One arrives at Stes. Maries by following a solitary road from Arles through the Camargue, a marshy land of alluvial deposit, past grazing lands and horse farms. Legend has it that this was where St. Marie-Jacobé, St. Marie-Salomé, and their servant St. Sarah landed after being set adrift off the coast of Palestine by the Jews of Judea in the first century A.D. The Romany, or Gypsies of the Camargue, consider St. Sarah their patron saint and in May and September there are processions of gardianes, or Camargue cowboys, who drive the bulls through the streets to the bullring for nonlethal bullfighting or to a pool for a strange sport called taureau piscine where amateur bullfighters dodge the bulls in the water-filled pools.


The stew is excellent with French fries.


Yield: Makes 4 to 6 servings
Preparation Time: 4:30 hours
1/4 cup extra virgin olive oil

4 pounds oxtail (weighed with bone) or 3 pounds beef shank, well trimmed of fat and cut into 2- inch pieces (ask the butcher to do this for you)

1 tablespoon pork lard

2 medium onions, finely chopped

1 pound potatoes, peeled and diced

2 cups beef broth

1 cup dry red wine

Bouquet garni, tied in cheesecloth, consisting of 5 sprigs fresh parsley, 15 sprigs fresh thyme, and 5 sprigs fresh savory or tarragon

Peel from 1 orange, without the white pith, in one long spiral

1 medium-size onion, peeled and studded with 1 clove

1 bay leaf

1 garlic clove, peeled and crushed

1 tablespoon tomato paste

1/4 cup chopped imported pitted green olives

1/4 1cup chopped pitted black Niçoise olives

Salt and freshly ground black pepper to taste

1. In a large heavy casserole, heat the olive oil over medium-high heat, then brown the oxtail or shank pieces on all sides, about 5 minutes. Remove the oxtails from the casserole and set aside, keeping them warm.


2. In the same casserole, melt the lard over medium-high heat, then cook the chopped onions and potatoes until the onions are golden, about 8 minutes, stirring frequently and adding small amounts of water to scrape the browned bits off bottom of the casserole if necessary.


3. Return the meat to the casserole. Pour in the beef broth and wine along with the bouquet garni, orange peel, whole clove-studded onion, the bay leaf, garlic, tomato paste, and chopped olives. Season with salt and pepper.


4. Reduce the heat to low and simmer, uncovered, until the sauce is thick and the meat tender and falling off the bone, about 4 hours. Remove and discard the orange peel, bouquet garni, whole onion, and bay leaf. Serve immediately.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
That bull would then be fucking with the wrong potato.

Bull Stew in the Style of the CamargueTaureau Sauvage à la Gardiane
Region: France, Provence
Category: Stews
Season: Any
Difficulty: Easy but long cooking time
This rich dish from the Camargue of Provence is known as gardiane de taureau, boeuf à la gardiane, or simply la gardiane. Some people also make gardiane with lamb. In Córdoba in Andalusia there is another braised bull dish called rabo de toro with equally luscious flavors.


The bulls of the Camargue are a twentieth century introduction, for in the sixteenth century large-scale summer transhumance contolling the sheep flocks of the Camargue defined this area then infested with mosquitoes and afflicted with a high rate of unemployment. A remarkable effort of rural land development transformed the region at that time into a productive sheep- rearing land. But today the bulls have the predominant presence in the Camargue and gardiane, or bull stew, is a famous local specialty. I remember an excellent gardiane at the seaside restaurant of A La Brise de Mer in the small coastal town of Les Saintes Maries-de-la- Mer in the Camargue. One arrives at Stes. Maries by following a solitary road from Arles through the Camargue, a marshy land of alluvial deposit, past grazing lands and horse farms. Legend has it that this was where St. Marie-Jacobé, St. Marie-Salomé, and their servant St. Sarah landed after being set adrift off the coast of Palestine by the Jews of Judea in the first century A.D. The Romany, or Gypsies of the Camargue, consider St. Sarah their patron saint and in May and September there are processions of gardianes, or Camargue cowboys, who drive the bulls through the streets to the bullring for nonlethal bullfighting or to a pool for a strange sport called taureau piscine where amateur bullfighters dodge the bulls in the water-filled pools.


The stew is excellent with FREEDOM fries.


Yield: Makes 4 to 6 servings
Preparation Time: 4:30 hours
1/4 cup extra virgin olive oil

4 pounds oxtail (weighed with bone) or 3 pounds beef shank, well trimmed of fat and cut into 2- inch pieces (ask the butcher to do this for you)

1 tablespoon pork lard

2 medium onions, finely chopped

1 pound potatoes, peeled and diced

2 cups beef broth

1 cup dry red wine

Bouquet garni, tied in cheesecloth, consisting of 5 sprigs fresh parsley, 15 sprigs fresh thyme, and 5 sprigs fresh savory or tarragon

Peel from 1 orange, without the white pith, in one long spiral

1 medium-size onion, peeled and studded with 1 clove

1 bay leaf

1 garlic clove, peeled and crushed

1 tablespoon tomato paste

1/4 cup chopped imported pitted green olives

1/4 1cup chopped pitted black Niçoise olives

Salt and freshly ground black pepper to taste

1. In a large heavy casserole, heat the olive oil over medium-high heat, then brown the oxtail or shank pieces on all sides, about 5 minutes. Remove the oxtails from the casserole and set aside, keeping them warm.


2. In the same casserole, melt the lard over medium-high heat, then cook the chopped onions and potatoes until the onions are golden, about 8 minutes, stirring frequently and adding small amounts of water to scrape the browned bits off bottom of the casserole if necessary.


3. Return the meat to the casserole. Pour in the beef broth and wine along with the bouquet garni, orange peel, whole clove-studded onion, the bay leaf, garlic, tomato paste, and chopped olives. Season with salt and pepper.


4. Reduce the heat to low and simmer, uncovered, until the sauce is thick and the meat tender and falling off the bone, about 4 hours. Remove and discard the orange peel, bouquet garni, whole onion, and bay leaf. Serve immediately.
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Harrekin

Well-Known Member
ooo spam! i slip diced span into my pea soup after its almost done cookin. put it in too early and you get pork flavoured moosh

reported as deviled ham.
I'm even starting to question if you're a Doctor at all!!?!

Reported as one of those fake Doctors (PhD in Philosophy or some other shite).
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
I'm even starting to question if you're a Doctor at all!!?!

Reported as one of those fake Doctors (PhD in Philosophy or some other shite).
Hollywood Upstairs Medical School Diploma doesnt count? what about my 3 month internship at Earl Schieb Autobody and Paint and Surgey? we will remove any appendix for $129.95!

 

beenthere

New Member
I'm just don't see the problem with people fully supporting themselves with gym equipment sales?

Trimming is a full time (fucking) job at harvest time, you get those stiff "trimmer's hands".

My point is why should someone HAVE to work aswell? Im sure the Doritos guy didn't have another job while inventing their delicious corn chips.
Trimming is absolutely the worst part of growing IMO, thank god there's people out there that willing to do it.
But I don't think you are following my logic here Harrekin. There is nothing wrong with growing full time, in fact I know many guys up here doing just that. If the feds would wise up, they could collect revenue and make everybody involved happy! What I'm saying is, if someone decides to grow and not pay taxes, they have no moral ground complaining that other people do not pay enough taxes, do you disagree?
 

Samwell Seed Well

Well-Known Member
spoken like a true chicken hawk, you want others to go down for you, not all of us can take the chance to spend 10 years in jail for 1,200 a month net profits

and completely not optimal to 99% of all growers out there to pay taxs on there sales, as it is just an invotaion for tax fruad as it is ilegal to pay taxes on federally ilegal transaction . . ..

i have hade a business set up, a LLC i think, all i do is grow and i am constantly in fear of some BS tax shit levied against me, my partners take just as much risk and it is not fair and not balalnced
 

beenthere

New Member
spoken like a true chicken hawk, you want others to go down for you, not all of us can take the chance to spend 10 years in jail for 1,200 a month net profits

and completely not optimal to 99% of all growers out there to pay taxs on there sales, as it is just an invotaion for tax fruad as it is ilegal to pay taxes on federally ilegal transaction . . ..

i have a have a business set up and i am contantly in fear of some BS tax shit ieved agaisnt me
WTF are you talking about Dumbwell, going down for fucking what? LOL
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
Trimming is absolutely the worst part of growing IMO, thank god there's people out there that willing to do it.
But I don't think you are following my logic here Harrekin. There is nothing wrong with growing full time, in fact I know many guys up here doing just that. If the feds would wise up, they could collect revenue and make everybody involved happy! What I'm saying is, if someone decides to grow and not pay taxes, they have no moral ground complaining that other people do not pay enough taxes, do you disagree?
Again, I blame the Feds for not wanting the money, not the grower for not reporting the results of their (stupidly) illegal products.
 

Samwell Seed Well

Well-Known Member
WTF are you talking about Dumbwell, going down for fucking what? LOL
are you so stupid to not realize that it is a tax code violation to pay taxes on illegal transactions , you cant count illegal funds as net income its illegal . . .. . . and well MJ transaction even MMJ is still federally illegal . . .you fucking idiot
 

beenthere

New Member
Again, I blame the Feds for not wanting the money, not the grower for not reporting the results of their (stupidly) illegal products.
Sounds like you are avoiding my question Harrekin, if these growers aren't paying taxes, do you think it's ok for them to bitch that others aren't paying enough taxes?
 

Samwell Seed Well

Well-Known Member
it is federally illegal to count transaction like MJ sales and cultivation and cost, including MMJ, as income, or tax deductions

just because they dont fuck you over doesn't mean what you are doing is not illegal federally

where have you been every big MMJ has tax code voilations in all the charges . . . you are clueless, i still dotn think you grow

your a holder bitch . . .used to grow smoke 30 years ago
 

beenthere

New Member
are you so stupid to not realize that it is a tax code violation to pay taxes on illegal transactions , you cant count illegal funds as net income its illegal . . .. . . and well MJ transaction even MMJ is still federally illegal . . .you fucking idiot
Dude are you fucking lit or what, I just explained that I understand the federal tax code and cultivation.
Are you in little dick mode 24/7 or what?
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
Sounds like you are avoiding my question Harrekin, if these growers aren't paying taxes, do you think it's ok for them to bitch that others aren't paying enough taxes?
No you're missing the answer, Buck said he'd gladly pay taxes on his treadmills, the Govt refuses to budge of the cash crop of the century, they're missing out by their choice.

If I offer something and you don't accept, would you go around telling people I never offered?
 

beenthere

New Member
No you're missing the answer, Buck said he'd gladly pay taxes on his treadmills, the Govt refuses to budge of the cash crop of the century, they're missing out by their choice.

If I offer something and you don't accept, would you go around telling people I never offered?
I think i was quite clear agreeing with you on the taxation part Harrekin , but do you think he has the moral ground when he complains about others not paying enough taxes?

Hey bud, if you don't feel comfortable answering my question, just say so! :wink:
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
I think i was quite clear agreeing with you on the taxation part Harrekin , but do you think he has the moral ground when he complains about others not paying enough taxes?

Hey bud, if you don't feel comfortable answering my question, just say so! :wink:
Ok, crayon time.

Buck offers his piece of the pie, the Govt doesn't want his money, so why should be be less entitled to a say about taxation policy than you?
 
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