If Tax cuts create jobs

Grandpapy · Sep 9, 2012

In order for Corporations to remain profitable in the "Global Economy", the labor workforce needs to be on a level playing field,
Those in power are just seeing to it. Making Corporations more "people" then the people.
We still have room on the streets for the homeless here in the bay area. But spots are going fast!

Red1966 · Sep 9, 2012

mr2shim said:
They work less than we do, make more than we do and are happier than us. I'll gladly take their system over this shit. So fucking sick of the brainwashed buffoons thinking "America is the best place to live" You're as dumb as a bag of wet hammers if you believe that nonsense. We are the butt of the joke to the rest of the world, we're just too stupid to notice everyone is laughing at us.

I'm happier than you are and I live under the system we have here. Maybe the problem isn't the system, maybe it's you.

Grandpapy · Sep 10, 2012

Red1966 said:
I'm happier than you are and I live under the system we have here. Maybe the problem isn't the system, maybe it's you.

Ignorance really is Bliss.

MellowFarmer · Sep 10, 2012

why won't anyone address of my point as to the tax rate of the upper tax bracket for most of the past fucking century?

mr2shim · Sep 10, 2012

MellowFarmer said:
why won't anyone address of my point as to the tax rate of the upper tax bracket for most of the past fucking century?

I went back 10 pages didn't see anything, you should probably repost it.

Red1966 said:
I'm happier than you are and I live under the system we have here. Maybe the problem isn't the system, maybe it's you.

It's easy to be ok with it when you haven't experienced anything else.

NoDrama · Sep 10, 2012

ChesusRice said:
What thrashing?

You get 900 a month in income
you live in Mexico
and you complain all the time about taxes and the USA

YOu dont fucking live here
and you have no tax liability

you keep repeating yourself
But I heard you the first whine

Only really dumb people believe that if you live in another country that you no longer have to pay federal taxes.

mr2shim · Sep 10, 2012

NoDrama said:
Only really dumb people believe that if you live in another country that you no longer have to pay federal taxes.

Pretty sure he meant he has no tax liability to the US of A so why is he bitching about it.

Red1966 · Sep 10, 2012

Grandpapy said:
Ignorance really is Bliss.

Being unhappy proves you're smart? I don't think so. Maybe being a know-it-all leads to unhappiness.

mr2shim · Sep 10, 2012

Red1966 said:
Being unhappy proves you're smart? I don't think so. Maybe being a know-it-all leads to unhappiness.

Being intelligent does lead to unhappiness. You realize you're surrounded by idiots and stand no chance of escape. Quite depressing really.

Grandpapy · Sep 10, 2012

I'm unhappy my last President lost 3.2 trillion dollars. Gone, Pooff!

nontheist · Sep 10, 2012

mr2shim said:
Being intelligent does lead to unhappiness. You realize you're surrounded by idiots and stand no chance of escape. Quite depressing really.

I buy that.

abandonconflict · Sep 10, 2012

mr2shim said:
Being intelligent does lead to unhappiness. You realize you're surrounded by idiots and stand no chance of escape. Quite depressing really.

The man who is a pessimist before 48 knows too much; if he is an optimist after it, he knows too little.

Mark Twain

Grandpapy · Sep 10, 2012

abandonconflict said:
The man who is a pessimist before 48 knows too much; if he is an optimist after it, he knows too little.

Mark Twain

Thank Goodness! I thought I was just becoming a crotchety old fart. I understand the reason now.

nontheist · Sep 10, 2012

abandonconflict said:
The man who is a pessimist before 48 knows too much; if he is an optimist after it, he knows too little.

Mark Twain

Be careful using Mark Twain quotes you will soon be called racist.

abandonconflict · Sep 10, 2012

nontheist said:
Be careful using Mark Twain quotes you will soon be called racist.

Mark Twain wasn't a racist, he wrote books that had some racist characters. Believe it or not, people know the difference.

abandonconflict · Sep 10, 2012

Grandpapy said:
Thank Goodness! I thought I was just becoming a crotchety old fart. I understand the reason now.

I don't know, you could be crotchety, don't get me wrong I'm not assuming.

NoDrama · Sep 10, 2012

abandonconflict said:
Believe it or not, people know the difference.

Some people do, but they don't hang out in this section.

MellowFarmer · Sep 12, 2012

MellowFarmer said:
Did they skip over that part in your history classes as well? When has this nation been the strongest and most prosperous? Can we agree that 1946 - 1976 was an extremely comfortable time for folks? A family could live off a single paycheck from a job that did not require a college education. Unemployment was not a worry so much and people went to the doctor and hospital without ending up in Bankruptcy court. It was the norm to use only 1/4 of your salary even on housing and to save 1/4 even. Remember saving accounts anyone? Those were nice weren't they? gosh I miss oh yeah so back in 1945 the top tax bracket paid 94% and up until Carter that only fluctuated down to 71% -now let's discuss the funnelling of money from the 99% to the 1%? That is exactly why so called Job Creators don't create jobs. Jobs would slow down that rush of cash from the bottom to the very very top.

MellowFarmer said:
if you were watching two evenly matched teams play baseball and noticed the runs scored being unevenly distributed to the team that paid the Umps salary would this cause such a debate?why no remarks on my fun trivia fact that until Carter for most of that century the top tax bracket paid 70 some to 90 some % ?

mr2shim said:
I went back 10 pages didn't see anything, you should probably repost it.It's easy to be ok with it when you haven't experienced anything else.

thank you mr2shim bongsmilie

ginwilly · Sep 12, 2012

Mellow, I'll give it fair shot but I'm certainly no expert so ... Fwiw.

I believe it was JFK who lowered rates from90 to 70 not Cater but doesn't matter. Before Reagan you could deduct interest paid on your yacht, your jet and 15000 houses and evry credit card you had. Now you can deduct only your residence and one more. Many other deductions have been closed every time rates were dropped. I don't have the stats to back up my claim but my guess is the effective rates the rich have paid have probably not changed as much as we think.

I have not researched any of this so if someone did and I'm way off base, please correct me. A graph showing effective rates would be cool.

ChesusRice · Sep 12, 2012

ginwilly said:
Mellow, I'll give it fair shot but I'm certainly no expert so ... Fwiw.

I believe it was JFK who lowered rates from90 to 70 not Cater but doesn't matter. Before Reagan you could deduct interest paid on your yacht, your jet and 15000 houses and evry credit card you had. Now you can deduct only your residence and one more. Many other deductions have been closed every time rates were dropped. I don't have the stats to back up my claim but my guess is the effective rates the rich have paid have probably not changed as much as we think.

I have not researched any of this so if someone did and I'm way off base, please correct me. A graph showing effective rates would be cool.

when they gonna tax capital gains at the same rate as income
Becuase that is what it is

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