If Tax cuts create jobs

UncleBuck

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WOW....How different yet similar the "public sector" jobs are...Only one thing creates jobs there too...."demand" . We demand you give us your money or we will hurt you.
they have no right to demand your money until you voluntarily agree to sign a W4, failbot.

your entire philosophy is premised upon fail. how does that feel?
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
Define parasitic
If you are talking about Goverment jobs

The goverment under Obama has shed 600000 jobs since he came into office
And the Economy under Obama has shed millions of jobs. The unemployment rate would be over 11% if the government honestly calculated the number of private sector jobs that have been lost to Obamanation...

All he needs to do now is destroy another 10% of the private sector economy and he will be able to get unemployment below 7% on paper...
 

ChesusRice

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And the Economy under Obama has shed millions of jobs. The unemployment rate would be over 11% if the government honestly calculated the number of private sector jobs that have been lost to Obamanation...

All he needs to do now is destroy another 10% of the private sector economy and he will be able to get unemployment below 7% on paper...
Are you ass raping that kid in your avatar?
 

althor

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So, lets hear from some people who actually own companies and create jobs.
As a company owner, policies enacted by the Obama admin has resulted in less hiring by my company.

Now, argue all you want over it, but my company isnt the only one. Almost every owner I associate with is either downsizing or not hiring.

Blame it on Bush...
 

althor

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Are you ass raping that kid in your avatar?

You just lost any respect I may have had for your position.
As usual, Dems always start hitting below the belt.
I am thoroughly convinced Dems are the largest hate group in the world.

Go Libertarians.
 

beenthere

New Member
they have no right to demand your money until you voluntarily agree to sign a W4, failbot.

your entire philosophy is premised upon fail. how does that feel?
Do you think this shit up while you're stoned?
Your statement demonstrates just how ignorant you are on the issue, you couldn't have got it more wrong.
It's really a shame that people like you are even able to vote!
 

londonfog

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So, lets hear from some people who actually own companies and create jobs.
As a company owner, policies enacted by the Obama admin has resulted in less hiring by my company.

Now, argue all you want over it, but my company isnt the only one. Almost every owner I associate with is either downsizing or not hiring.

Blame it on Bush...
I actually was able to expand with Obama with his Small Business Job Act as well as SBA grant monies ( remember to think green and solar..lol)... now I was rather stagnant in 2006-2008 with Bush. Can you tell me what policies Obama made that had you not able to do anything with your business
 

althor

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I actually was able to expand with Obama with his Small Business Job Act as well as SBA grant monies ( remember to think green and solar..lol)... now I was rather stagnant in 2006-2008 with Bush. Can you tell me what policies Obama made that had you not able to do anything with your business

More than anything it has been concerns over what will happen. My taxes increased during Obama, and every other small business owner I know agrees that their's increased as well. We have all been worried about what the AFA would do, which scares owners from hiring employees when we arent sure what our responsibilities will be. The stock market has been fluctuating so much that it also adds concerns. The stock market fluctuations are direct results of what is happening/not happening in Congress. Still wondering about whats going to happen with the Bush Tax cuts. If my taxes are about to jump up 10%, I cant afford to hire employees. So we are stuck in a stasis with no clear vision whatsoever in what the future holds.
 

MellowFarmer

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How could you guys possibly argue that tax increases create jobs? Please, enlighten me on how that is economically possible? When you tax to redistribute wealth or drone children in Afghanistan you are creating a third party in government, which is less efficient. Funneling money through government by taxation is always less efficient than the free market because you have to create bureaucracies to spend the revenue for whatever purpose.
Did they skip over that part in your history classes as well? When has this nation been the strongest and most prosperous? Can we agree that 1946 - 1976 was an extremely comfortable time for folks? A family could live off a single paycheck from a job that did not require a college education. Unemployment was not a worry so much and people went to the doctor and hospital without ending up in Bankruptcy court. It was the norm to use only 1/4 of your salary even on housing and to save 1/4 even. Remember saving accounts anyone? Those were nice weren't they? gosh I miss oh yeah so back in 1945 the top tax bracket paid 94% and up until Carter that only fluctuated down to 71% -now let's discuss the funnelling of money from the 99% to the 1%? That is exactly why so called Job Creators don't create jobs. Jobs would slow down that rush of cash from the bottom to the very very top.
 

londonfog

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More than anything it has been concerns over what will happen. My taxes increased during Obama, and every other small business owner I know agrees that their's increased as well. We have all been worried about what the AFA would do, which scares owners from hiring employees when we arent sure what our responsibilities will be. The stock market has been fluctuating so much that it also adds concerns. The stock market fluctuations are direct results of what is happening/not happening in Congress. Still wondering about whats going to happen with the Bush Tax cuts. If my taxes are about to jump up 10%, I cant afford to hire employees. So we are stuck in a stasis with no clear vision whatsoever in what the future holds.
What type of business do you have ??? and how did your tax increase..In fact small business owners received tax breaks/credits
 

beenthere

New Member
I actually was able to expand with Obama with his Small Business Job Act as well as SBA grant monies ( remember to think green and solar..lol)... now I was rather stagnant in 2006-2008 with Bush. Can you tell me what policies Obama made that had you not able to do anything with your business
Really! So what type of business are you in and what specifically did it do for your company?
 

Krayven Sumhead

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Mitt probably had to hire a couple of people to count all his $ from the last round of tax cuts.

Betcha he pays them minimum wage, tho.

Plus, all the people in the banks over in Switzerland and the Cayman Islands where Mitt seems to keep his $.

So, do the tax breaks to rich people equal jobs?

If you can survive on minimum wage and are willing to move, of course they do!
 

beenthere

New Member
Mitt probably had to hire a couple of people to count all his $ from the last round of tax cuts.

Betcha he pays them minimum wage, tho.

Plus, all the people in the banks over in Switzerland and the Cayman Islands where Mitt seems to keep his $.

So, do the tax breaks to rich people equal jobs?

If you can survive on minimum wage and are willing to move, of course they do!
Sorry to tell ya dude, when your whole life evolves around weed, you're going to be stuck with minimum wage jobs!
 

nontheist

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Mitt probably had to hire a couple of people to count all his $ from the last round of tax cuts.

Betcha he pays them minimum wage, tho.

Plus, all the people in the banks over in Switzerland and the Cayman Islands where Mitt seems to keep his $.

So, do the tax breaks to rich people equal jobs?

If you can survive on minimum wage and are willing to move, of course they do!
So you hate the guy because he is rich? Obama is a very rich man now ever think to question that? Mitt has more but when you start talking million does it even matter to the average Joe anymore?

Barack Obama and wife have a tidy 12 million dollar estate. Not anything in comparison with Mitt but it makes one wonder how did the Obamas become millionaires?
Mr. Obama makes $ 400,000 a year as President and Mrs. Obama has not worked since 2007. How did they become millionaires?

Prior to becoming a candidate for President, he was a U.S. Senator making about $ 160,000 and she was legal counsel for a NONPROFIT hospital at about the same income as her husband. Say, they made $ 300,000 annually between them, how did they become millionaires?

Before joining the U.S. Senate, he was a State Senator at $ 65,000 a year. He also taught part-time in a law school for $ 60,000 – 80,000.

Now I am not ripping on Obama for this I know its the name of the game, this is why almost every senator is a millionaire. Just ease back on the bama koolaid.
 

beenthere

New Member
Where are the fucking jobs?
They are shackled by regulations and uncertainty Einstein!

The two biggest components of supply side economics are lower taxes and less regulation, are you really this misinformed? Your kind wants to bury businesses with job killing bureaucratic regulations, you threaten tax hikes each time the cuts are going to expire and now wonder where the fucking jobs are? LMFAO
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
Really! So what type of business are you in and what specifically did it do for your company?
Come on you know what kind of business I have..are you being silly ??? .. Are you the puppetmaster for althor or something or you just Captain save a hoe

I ask althor a question and you deflect with questions that just about everyone that knows Lfog on RIU politics should know. First time I ever had a convo with althor so if he needs to know cool, but you should know....Let althor handles his own converstion ..unless you are athor then...
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
So, lets hear from some people who actually own companies and create jobs.
As a company owner, policies enacted by the Obama admin has resulted in less hiring by my company.

Now, argue all you want over it, but my company isnt the only one. Almost every owner I associate with is either downsizing or not hiring.

Blame it on Bush...


What polices specificaly are you talking about that has inhibited you from hiring?
 

ginjawarrior

Well-Known Member
So you hate the guy because he is rich? Obama is a very rich man now ever think to question that? Mitt has more but when you start talking million does it even matter to the average Joe anymore?

Barack Obama and wife have a tidy 12 million dollar estate. Not anything in comparison with Mitt but it makes one wonder how did the Obamas become millionaires?
Mr. Obama makes $ 400,000 a year as President and Mrs. Obama has not worked since 2007. How did they become millionaires?

Prior to becoming a candidate for President, he was a U.S. Senator making about $ 160,000 and she was legal counsel for a NONPROFIT hospital at about the same income as her husband. Say, they made $ 300,000 annually between them, how did they become millionaires?

Before joining the U.S. Senate, he was a State Senator at $ 65,000 a year. He also taught part-time in a law school for $ 60,000 – 80,000.

Now I am not ripping on Obama for this I know its the name of the game, this is why almost every senator is a millionaire. Just ease back on the bama koolaid.
"President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama are millionaires, worth nearly $6 million by our count."
"The President’s hefty book royalties from “The Audacity of Hope” and “Dreams From My Father,” a big source of his wealth, are decreasing at a faster rate than we had estimated. In 2009, Obama’s book sales peaked and he grossed nearly $5.7 million"

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erincarlyle/2012/05/16/obamas-worth-nearly-6-million-see-why-hes-down-since-last-year/
 

Grandpapy

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Billions are wasted lobbing, waiting, fighting, scrutinizing, arguing over taxes the, "it's just the cost of doing business" Bullshit!
Any Company worth it accounting weight would never have such a bottle neck, or money-sink.
Just think for a moment how streamlined the Congress would operate if a flat tax was in place, hell, they could be paid "part time".
It would remove the favoritism, that is in place now.
Please tell me how tax cuts for Big Oil pays for the US protecting Oil fields aboard?
True Patriotism takes place when everybody pulls their weight.
End of morning rant.
 
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