If buffet wanted his secretary to pay the same income taxes as he does...

NLXSK1 said:

A millionaire pays 150K per year and the average joe like you pays 6K - 20K a year. And you call that the rich paying half.

Ladies and gentlemen this is what happens when the liberals teach kids new math...

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half the RATE.

that has been the crux of this entire discussion.

try to pay attention.

UncleBuck said:

no, i'm not.

your pussy is sore because i pointed out your obvious double standard.

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I clearly have stated my point and anyone reading this thread can make their own judgement. However, I notice that when you are losing a debate you like to start talking about sore pussy...

Again, I want everyone to pay less in taxes. You celebrate that you pay less under Obama while demanding other people pay more and call me a hypocrite.

UncleBuck said:

half the RATE.

that has been the crux of this entire discussion.

try to pay attention.

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yes, your position on the discussion is stupid. Try to pay attention.

UncleBuck said:

half the RATE.

that has been the crux of this entire discussion.

try to pay attention.

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Hey, since it has already been proven that you are a hypocrite, lets do it again...

You think everyone should pay the same rate? Then why do people making more money have higher tax brackets?

You cant have it both ways you hypocrite...

NLXSK1 said:

...you are losing a debate...

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NLXSK1 said:

...your position on the discussion is stupid....

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"you're losing and you're stupid"

researchers at pepperdine have conducted double blind clinical studies showing that when someone proclaims they are winning a debate and insults their opponent, they are clearly winning.

here is what we have established during this debate:

1) you feel that it is perfectly fair and good policy for someone making $20 million to pay taxes at half the rate of someone making $50k.

2) you have no problem trying to confine the scope of the debate to either proportionality or raw numbers as it happens to best fit your needs.



that will sell in a general election.

NLXSK1 said:

Hey, since it has already been proven that you are a hypocrite, lets do it again...

You think everyone should pay the same rate? Then why do people making more money have higher tax brackets?

You cant have it both ways you hypocrite...

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when did i say that everyone should pay the same rate?

supporting a progressive tax structure does not a hypocrite make.

if you want to start a thread about the progressive tax structure, feel free to do so.

i prefer to avoid your DEFLECTION style of debating and focus instead on your double standards and defense of those poor, over taxed, millionaires.

Barak Obama wants to double the capital gains tax rate, put tariffs on foreign imports (which will raise prices), eliminate all subsidies for oil companies (which will raise prices), etc...

His whole speech was about raising taxes for fairness...

That will sell well in a general election. No, really. I am sure... Especially to all the unemployed people out there...

NLXSK1 said:

...eliminate all subsidies for oil companies (which will raise prices)....That will sell well in a general election....

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At least the above quoted will. Who still favors oil subsidies?

UncleBuck said:

when did i say that everyone should pay the same rate?

supporting a progressive tax structure does not a hypocrite make.

if you want to start a thread about the progressive tax structure, feel free to do so.

i prefer to avoid your DEFLECTION style of debating and focus instead on your double standards and defense of those poor, over taxed, millionaires.

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Deflection? Like you?

• Again, I want everyone to pay less in taxes. You celebrate that you pay less under Obama while demanding other people pay more and call me a hypocrite.​

  
  
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I notice you dont address the statements you dont want to either. Hypocrite....

Anyway, past my bedtime. Not worth continuing this ATM... Later.

NLXSK1 said:

Barak Obama wants to double the capital gains tax rate, put tariffs on foreign imports (which will raise prices), eliminate all subsidies for oil companies (which will raise prices), etc...

His whole speech was about raising taxes for fairness...

That will sell well in a general election. No, really. I am sure... Especially to all the unemployed people out there...

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i am LOLing at you right now.

i am gonna head out and get some food. don't kill yourself while i'm gone.

NLXSK1 said:

Deflection? Like you?



I notice you dont address the statements you dont want to either. Hypocrite....

Anyway, past my bedtime. Not worth continuing this ATM... Later.

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i did not ask for a diatribe, i asked for a YES or NO.

and that was all i responded to.

sync0s said:

At least the above quoted will. Who still favors oil subsidies?

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*sigh*

It is not the elimination of the subsidies that people will dislike. It is (what I put in parenthesis) the rise in cost of fuel due to the elimination of subsidies that will not be popular.

If gas is $5.00 per gallon in November - hypothetical - Obama will not benefit from it.

UncleBuck said:

i did not ask for a diatribe, i asked for a YES or NO.

and that was all i responded to.

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So you choose to demand that I answer all questions while ignoring my points. I get it you are a hypocrite.

The first step is acceptance...

NLXSK1 said:

So you choose to demand that I answer all questions while ignoring my points. I get it you are a hypocrite.

The first step is acceptance...

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asked you a "yes or no" question. i had to ask you numerous times to get an answer.

i am a monster.

Well you see.....Not everyone just has houses to sell and shit..they are using the ones they have..

NLXSK1 said:

unless they invest in stocks and get capital gains...

Or sell a house and make a profit from capital gains.

And please be clear... They dont have to pay way more taxes, they have to pay a higher percentage. Buffet paid a SHITLOAD more money in taxes than his secretary. Romney paid over 3 MILLION dollars in taxes last year. The rich are contributing the majority of the federal taxes in America and half the citizens pay NOTHING. Yet somehow this is still unfair?

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NLXSK1 said:

*sigh*

It is not the elimination of the subsidies that people will dislike. It is (what I put in parenthesis) the rise in cost of fuel due to the elimination of subsidies that will not be popular.

If gas is $5.00 per gallon in November - hypothetical - Obama will not benefit from it.

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1) If that is the case that is how you encourage the market to search for more fuel efficient vehicles. Not by using the government to artificially hold prices down and spend ass loads of money on a technology that bureaucrats in Washington have zero understanding of.

2) Companies that are reporting record profits, especially to the amount that oil companies had, do not need any tax subsidies at all. You cannot morally justify it either. Especially when our government has a national debt of about $14 trillion

sync0s said:

1) If that is the case that is how you encourage the market to search for more fuel efficient vehicles. Not by using the government to artificially hold prices down and spend ass loads of money on a technology that bureaucrats in Washington have zero understanding of.

2) Companies that are reporting record profits, especially to the amount that oil companies had, do not need any tax subsidies at all. You cannot morally justify it either. Especially when our government has a national debt of about $14 trillion

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I am not trying to morally justify it. I am simply saying that if gas prices are high at election time it will be one more thing against him.

I am against subsidies, you already knew that cause I POSTED it earlier in the thread.

NLXSK1 is probably a trust baby and doesn't want his inheritance taxed more...lawl...

massah said:

NLXSK1 is probably a trust baby and doesn't want his inheritance taxed more...lawl...

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Nope... I likely made less than you last year.

NLXSK1 said:

Nope... I likely made less than you last year.

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Great...you are an idiot then...lemme break it down for you...

Rich people pray on their "workers" by paying them shit and collecting shitons of profits...they also hide money in capital investments to avoid paying higher income or corporate taxes...even if the capital investments are pure bullshit nothing but on paper "investments"...they hide it to pay less taxes...

So you want millionaires to continue to be allowed to abuse the system collecting as much money as possible to further separate the distance between the working lower/middle class and upperclass...how the fuck can any rational person think this is ok? Oh wait that's right you hate Ron Paul and would rather see more people poorer and watch the rich get richer...