Ice, Rocklock and Crystal, grow. Foliar feeding experiment, started 12/12 Sept. 25th

Those are some beautiful pics, dude! I can see why you kept it up. I will try to post some of the crystal which will finish in a few days, but it certainly does not compare with that! I will definitely order more crystal. You got that from Nirvana? Add me as a friend, I am new and have no idea how to do that.....

hazorazo said:

Those are some beautiful pics, dude! I can see why you kept it up. I will try to post some of the crystal which will finish in a few days, but it certainly does not compare with that! I will definitely order more crystal. You got that from Nirvana? Add me as a friend, I am new and have no idea how to do that.....

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Well, honestly, IDK which seedbank it came from. All I know is that it was a gift from a guy who knows a guy, who knows a guy, etc... I also had a test strain called Velvet Ice, which was a cross between Velvet Kush and Ice, and it was kick-ass, too. I've never seen it on the market, so as far as I know, I'm the only person in the US, to get their hands on it. Cool, huh? Sadly, it was the strain that hermied, as I found out later, after I gave the little ones to a buddy of mine.

I'm looking forward to seeing your pics, and don't worry, I don't criticize, because I'm still rather new to this all, myself, and have had my share of problems.lol I'd be happy to offer ya some advice, if possible. I'm always glad to share, if I know it'll help.

I'm off to send ya a friend request, right now.

Good stuff. Always open to advice. I have gotten most of my kinks out growing, and running pretty smoothly, except for some hiccups when trying new strains. You know how that goes...... I think a lot of people think the way they do things is the ONLY way, and I recognize that there are many different ways to bake a cake. Or get me baked.....lol. Good luck with the ice. I am chopping another Ice plant down tonight, and she is looking pretty, just not as colorful as the last one.

hazorazo said:

Good stuff. Always open to advice. I have gotten most of my kinks out growing, and running pretty smoothly, except for some hiccups when trying new strains. You know how that goes...... I think a lot of people think the way they do things is the ONLY way, and I recognize that there are many different ways to bake a cake. Or get me baked.....lol. Good luck with the ice. I am chopping another Ice plant down tonight, and she is looking pretty, just not as colorful as the last one.

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Cool, I'm always looking for tips, myself. If you happen to come across something that sticks out at ya, in one of my pics/responses, don't be afraid to make a suggestion. I'm always willing to listen to advice, or ways tp improve. It's an endless journey, me thinks....lol

Fed them again tonight, full strength Dynagro Bloom, Calmag Plus, and Protekt. A few of the lower fan leaves, and smaller leaves, are starting to yellow, so I'm keeping an eye on it. Also, I should be posting some new pics in the next day, or two. I'm also going to finish hooking up the air-cooling, on my reflectors, and firing up my other two 400 HPS systems. I wish I could keep them on the same 8 plants, til the end, but can't, because I have 8-10 more moving in soon. Those lights are for covering the other half of my room, so will need to spread them back out when the new generation arrives. Should be interesting to see if the increase in light intendity, gives them a burst in buds growth. It's the beginning of week 4, which I assume, would be perfect timing. Hmm....

you have some beautiful ladies my friend.. if thats what im expecting, them obegeazzzeeee.. im going to be like a fking 4 year old!!!

^LOL, thanks, man. As long as you don't run into any major problems, and have sufficient lighting, you should be able to get similar results, or even better.

Here's some new pics, after not posting any for awhile. They are getting close to week 6, and not looking bad, at all. That one close up where you can see all the trichs, is a Crystal plant. It's definitely got more trichs bred into it, compared to the Ice. I know that doesn't mean anything, but it sure is cool to look at.LOL Also, it appears that Ice is a faster finishing strain, not much, maybe a week or so. The buds are clearly more developed, which can also be attributed to them being under the end with the 600, instead of the 400. I *should* get off my ass and add more light, like I've been saying.lol Now is the time to do it, I just have to get an elbow, so I can finish hooking up the air-cooling.

Temps hover between 72* and 79*, and around 65* at night. Humidity has been pretty constant, at 30%.

Okay, I just took some pics with the lights off, and they came out much better. These are at 5 weeks, and 3 days.....



EDIT: I want to add that the Rocklock freebie, started to go hermie on me, so I pulled it at 5 weeks. Dried it and sold it to my buddy, and he said it was awesome. Does that tell ya something about the quality of our weed around these parts? Terrible!!! Also, I dried it overnight, and he still loved it. LOL

Nice pics, bro! Looks like things are going well for you! Good work! Hope all is well!

hazorazo said:

Nice pics, bro! Looks like things are going well for you! Good work! Hope all is well!

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Thanks man, I'm very happy with them. I'm glad I took the time to read up on a few things I had problems with, before getting started again. Finally, I'm getting that problem-free grow, I've been waiting for, so long.lol

Still looking good man ! Glad u haven't had any problems.

So how is the experiment coming.. any difference?
I gave up foliar awhile back, found no benefit, at least not in veg.

anomolies said:

So how is the experiment coming.. any difference?
I gave up foliar awhile back, found no benefit, at least not in veg.

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Yes, I'm very pleased with the results, or observations, more accurately. I don't 'root feed' during veg, except for some Calmag, using only foliar for the first 6-7 weeks, and this has been my first flawless grow, so far. The main benefit of foliar, I've found, is that it takes care of deficiencies that you can't see. For example,....4th week of veg, plants looking great, except for maybe the leaves laying a little flat, otherwise, perfect. Two hours after a foliar feeding, the leaves are standing up again, praying for light, just as happy as can be. They needed a little nitrogen boost, but I wouldn't have realized that, if I hadn't been foliar feeding. So, knowing that, I would say that foliar feeding is beneficial for all but the most finely-tuned growers, those whose plants are near perfect. For those with a little mistake, here and there, new guys, or guys who simply want to use it as a 'safety net',(so to speak) I recommend foliar feeding. Personally, I've found it to be well worth the extra effort.

ah, sorry can I ask for a recap I didn't really follow.

So foliar only fixes deficiencies but doesn't give the plants a growth boost?
Cus that's what I found when I did a control. They all looked the same.

^Ooops, I read that, and had "would've" where I should've had "wouldn't", as bolded.


Sorry, no time to argue, atm. I have to go to sleep and wake up for a piss test, in 4 1/4 hours.

Well, I rearranged my plants(a little) and ended up with a 3' x 4 1/2' grow area, then add two more 400 watt HPS lights. So, I was running three 400's and a 600,(1,800 watts) in that tiny area. I checked the output at the canopy, with my light meter, and found that I was getting between 8,000 and 11,000 lumens. Holy fuck! Well, now I'm going to have to take care of the heat problem, because the temp jumped up close to 90*, instead of the mid-70*'s where they were before. One 400 and the 600 are air-cooled, but not hooked up atm. I'm going to do that tonight, when the lights come back on, and hope that get's me down to around 80*. I have my fingers crossed, because I was really hoping to run that extra lighting for the last 3 weeks, and pack some weight on those babies. We'll see.

Just took these pics, a few minutes ago. They are at week 6, plus 3 days, and so far, so good. Out of curiousity, I checked the trichs, and they are 50/50 clear/cloudy, with a couple random ambers, here and there. Hopefully, I can start cutting in 2 weeks, finishing them by the end of the 3rd week.

I've been feeding them every watering, with Dynagro Bloom, Calmag Plus, and Protekt, all full strength. They are starting to get some very faint burnt leaf tips, so I'm likely going to give them straight water, next feeding. IDK, still haven't decided yet. I'm assuming there's plenty of nutes in the soil, and that a dose of straight water, would clean it out a bit, allowing the plants to absorb some of the stuff that's built up. Hmmm.....we'll see.

Lookin good. I am liking your flower to leaf ratio.

jawbrodt said:

Yes, I'm very pleased with the results, or observations, more accurately. I don't 'root feed' during veg, except for some Calmag, using only foliar for the first 6-7 weeks, and this has been my first flawless grow, so far. The main benefit of foliar, I've found, is that it takes care of deficiencies that you can't see. For example,....4th week of veg, plants looking great, except for maybe the leaves laying a little flat, otherwise, perfect. Two hours after a foliar feeding, the leaves are standing up again, praying for light, just as happy as can be. They needed a little nitrogen boost, but I wouldn't have realized that, if I hadn't been foliar feeding. So, knowing that, I would say that foliar feeding is beneficial for all but the most finely-tuned growers, those whose plants are near perfect. For those with a little mistake, here and there, new guys, or guys who simply want to use it as a 'safety net',(so to speak) I recommend foliar feeding. Personally, I've found it to be well worth the extra effort.

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Nice conclusion brother! Got my next set vegging now .I want to root feed but I want to incorporate foliar into my scedule to take of like you say unseen def . Mabey I'll root feed , water and foliar feed ,root feed ,flush .

kingofqueen said:

Nice conclusion brother! Got my next set vegging now .I want to root feed but I want to incorporate foliar into my scedule to take of like you say unseen def . Mabey I'll root feed , water and foliar feed ,root feed ,flush .

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Definitely rootfeed when they need it. I should've mentioned that the "6-7 weeks veg" should've been more like 4-5 weeks. I lost a couple weeks, because I had some personal stuff going on here at home, and neglected them, leaving them in party cups, for waaaay longer than they should've been. Normally, they'd have the soil running low on nutes by week 4-5, and that's when I'd start rootfeeding. That's also when I put them on 12/12, skipping the veg fert, altogether. I foliar feed with veg fert, and rootfeed with bloom fert. Seems to enable the plants take in whatever extra N they need, during the bloom stretch, avoiding overfeeding. At about week 4, I quit the foliar, so that I don't risk having the buds' taste, effected. So far, so good. Another good thing about not rootfeeding during veg, is that they start bloom with clean soil, having no nute buildup. I used to flush at the beginning of 12/12, but don't have to do that anymore. That, I don't mind, at all.lol