stickybuds*
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thanks ilyass123 not bad for a soil organic growThat yield you pulled was fucking amazing! Nice work.
so chuck what do you think ?
thanks ilyass123 not bad for a soil organic growThat yield you pulled was fucking amazing! Nice work.
I can have 5-6 piles like this every year as I do most the defoliated in veg not flower so It does not extend the flower timenow just imagine if you had 5 piles of those per year instead of 4.
I'm not saying what you do doesn't work, but I don't consider what you're doing to be defoliation. Yours in flower looks no different to how ,one looked, and I did nothing but scrogg them.all I know is defoliated works really well for me
my 4 plants 8 weeks in flower (defoliated in veg and a little in early flower)
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the yield I pulled from 4 plants under a 600w hps
after being dried for 10 days
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but you do veg them under lights, correct? not in the dark using no resources, correct?I can have 5-6 piles like this every year as I do most the defoliated in veg not flower so It does not extend the flower time
yeh it took all day lol bud I get 3 joints from the finger rub so its not all badI'm not saying what you do doesn't work, but I don't consider what you're doing to be defoliation. Yours in flower looks no different to how ,one looked, and I did nothing but scrogg them.
I bed you had fun trimming that lot once it was dry :-\
Defoliation is NOT plucking all the fan leaves.I'd be interested to see how the yields would have changed had you simply topped and fimmed and scrogged and lst'd from the start, instead of chopping it down and having to give it a further 2 weeks to get back to a flower ready state.
I would not personally call this defoliation, more just extreme training prior to flowering. Your pictures show that upon flowering time, the plant was ANYTHING but defoliated. There may indeed be a specific definition of defoliation, but to me, unless it's being done in flower, then it is nothing mroe than a form of training, similar to what most of us do, be is lollipopping, topping, etc, but we wouldn't call it defoliating.
If that is the actual definition, well, I achieve all of that without removing a leaf. Hence my confusion.Defoliation is NOT plucking all the fan leaves.
Proper defoliation is done when growing trees or bigger/bushier plants.The furst round would be done over the course of 2 weeks to open up the insides of tge plant to more light allowing sucker growth to grow bigger and better and no longer equate to being sucker growth.More growing shioots opened to light equals more flower sights come flowering time.
After you switch to flower you would not defoliate again until after the initial stretch is over with.And finally about two weeks before harvest.
Again,you do NOT remove every or even the majority of leaves.
I am a perpetual grower so I have a veg and flower roombut you do veg them under lights, correct? not in the dark using no resources, correct?
OK, just making sure that you do use resources to reveg your plants for months out of every year instead of taking those same resources and producing more finished crops.I am a perpetual grower so I have a veg and flower room
these threads crack me upSo I have removed 95% of the leaves and most the branches
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what you all think, does she look ok ?
should I cut that lower branch as it looks out of place ?
what he saidOK, just making sure that you do use resources to reveg your plants for months out of every year instead of taking those same resources and producing more finished crops.
thanks.
with so many growers against defoliated, it had to be done lolthese threads crack me up
I think your leaves look burnt to fuck. I pull 4-5 ozs off a plant without all that bullshit you do and my plants finish green.thanks ilyass123 not bad for a soil organic grow
so chuck what do you think ?
Rather were my train of thought was headed. Very first grow, if suitable lighting, and we're talking just say a measly 400w hps, should be 2-3 ounces a plant without an issue, if you know how to grow, 4-5 ounces in any medium with any technique is childs play. This whole thing just seems like a waste of time and money. Why not just train the plant from the start instead of letting it do it's thing, chopping the shit out of it, then having to veg it for another fortnight just to get back to the point that you would have been at had you done things right from the start.I think your leaves look burnt to fuck. I pull 4-5 ozs off a plant without all that bullshit you do and my plants finish green.
I also run around 40 plants, pulling leaves off all of them is another job I wouldn't want,even if it was cost effective.which it isn't
I don't think that's what is being debated.. We all know plants will still grow, the focus of this thread seems to be yield, and as to the debate, wasted time and money for the same yield. Whenever i tried something new, i'd do side by side with clones, so i can at least appreciate what the differences were.So to conclude this long and drawn out debate, it doesnt matter how stupid we all are our plants will still grow.