altaran
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HAHA.....Fair enough.
I hate to do it....But are they ready yet?
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Dank Bongula
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You don't need any beastie bloomz or cha-ching, it's doing nothing but fucking your plant up...the trio is more than enough for just one plant. I personally find the trio especially difficult to use when running multiple strains because plants respond differently to it, but for one plant, it should be easier.
I only use FFHF and FFOF and add in dry amendments once the nutes in the soil have been exhausted. You can even get away with topdressing just more FFOF. There is a thread by @Budzbuddha showing how to use this method very easily. With autos, it seems less is more in regards to nutes. Try this method on your next grow and I think you'll be happy with the results.
Here's the thread
FFOF ( Fox Farms Ocean Forest ) made Simple - Autoflower
This thread was created to help those who seem to overthink the ease of use of this highly ammended bag soil. I see many growers both new and experienced seem to post “ issues “ when trying to run this medium. I am merely showing a simple no frills method of container / bag grows for autos...
www.rollitup.org
altaran
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I will check it out. Thank you.
altaran
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On the scope.....I see about 85-90% white trichs.....maybe 5% amber. But just wanted to confirm by what the plant looked like. Thats why I asked.
PadawanWarrior
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I haven't really checked trichs with a scope for years. I just judge by how the buds look. Swollen calyxes and receded pistils basically.
But those look like the need a couple more weeks or so.
Budzbuddha
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Well …. Looks like you threw pretty much all the unnecessary FFOF bottles you could at it.
Here‘s a thought ….
Instead of mixing up a witches brew of supplemental crap ….. just top dress more FFOF alone. ( ph at 6.6 -6.7 ) to Match medium.
Stupid simple. Plant originally acclimated since beginning … plant now shows what happens when you “ compile nutes on top of nutes “.
Believe it or not …. Autos can run exclusively on FFOF alone ( by way of interval top dressing to recharge medium as it is exhausted )
No extra needed. FFOF can run an auto from the jump for about 5 weeks - then another recharge top dress , then another 2 weeks ( + or - ) til end .
Strain specific obviously ( if heavy feeder / top dress more frequently) .
Plant looks fried . Stop over using it before it throws the towel in before it is actually done.
Autos hate stress especially from over feeding and overwatering…. They can stunt / stall and just quit doing anything.
Add more FFOF … water in at ph listed and leave it alone.
If you can limp her to finish ( plant finishes when it finishes - no matter what the breeder says ) , then you are good.
But , if it just stays at current level , without progression ……. Blame your feeding of it.
Here‘s a thought ….
Instead of mixing up a witches brew of supplemental crap ….. just top dress more FFOF alone. ( ph at 6.6 -6.7 ) to Match medium.
Stupid simple. Plant originally acclimated since beginning … plant now shows what happens when you “ compile nutes on top of nutes “.
Believe it or not …. Autos can run exclusively on FFOF alone ( by way of interval top dressing to recharge medium as it is exhausted )
No extra needed. FFOF can run an auto from the jump for about 5 weeks - then another recharge top dress , then another 2 weeks ( + or - ) til end .
Strain specific obviously ( if heavy feeder / top dress more frequently) .
Plant looks fried . Stop over using it before it throws the towel in before it is actually done.
Autos hate stress especially from over feeding and overwatering…. They can stunt / stall and just quit doing anything.
Add more FFOF … water in at ph listed and leave it alone.
If you can limp her to finish ( plant finishes when it finishes - no matter what the breeder says ) , then you are good.
But , if it just stays at current level , without progression ……. Blame your feeding of it.
altaran
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Yeah, never actually thought of top dressing. Def will give that a try next time. Thanks for your input.
Hollatchaboy
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Yea. I dunno how much experience you really have, but ime, most new growers tend to feed, because they think the plant needs to eat. Not because the plant was showing any sign of needing to be fed.
Kinda like watering. Most new growers, water when they think they need to, not when the plant needs them to.
altaran
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But yeah, I didn't even start nutrients till about the 5th-6th weeks.
And here I was throwing out all my FFOF and HF. Let me get that out of the dumpster real quick. lol
altaran
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only 3rd grow. First one went fine, but it was like 6ish years ago. Last one was a nightmare, but still came out with smokable herb. So it was still a win.
Hollatchaboy
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I use ffhf and it works great for me. I top dress about 2 weeks in and I don't have any problems. Even my leaf stems stay really green if I keep up with feedings.
Imo, fox farms soil kinda gets a bad rap. My bas 3.0 lasted a lil longer than ffhf, but not much. I still had to feed heavy for a bigger plant.
Hollatchaboy
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Sounds good. Are you wanting to use bottled nutes, or just water only?
altaran
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Anything, as long as I get nice green plants at the end. lol
Hollatchaboy
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Well, dry amendments along with ewc is probably the best way when learning. In a sense, you're feeding the microbes in the soil, and in turn, they're feeding your plant. Takes a lot of guesswork out of feedings, though there is a schedule you need to learn and follow, but it's more forgiving than bottled nutes. This is just my opinion of course. Others will differ.Anything, as long as I get nice green plants at the end. lol
PadawanWarrior
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I bought FFOF a few years ago and am still using it. Just amended with a bunch of other shit now. Still don't have it all figured out, but I dove in head first from the start.
Top dressing kicks ass. Just gotta stay on top of it. BAS has some good stuff. If you're a new customer I could send you a link for $5 off your first order. But get whatever's local. I don't know where you live.
