Stomper420
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Is one better then the other for veg stage? I have a switchable and am curently useing the MH. Just wondering if the hps would have better results?
HPS or MH 400w for veg?
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rocpilefsj
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MH is better for your veg stage, hps for flowering. I have seen decent results vegging with HPS and even people flowering with MH though.
Jack Harer
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I have run both veg and flower under both MH and HPS for both phases. 72 girls in a 4x8 table under 3 1K lights. IF there was a difference between the 2 spectrums it would be measured in grams.
It was my 3rd or 4th grow before I had the luxury of both HPS and MH. If I had me 'druthers. I'd druther use MH if I had to choose one or the other, simply because it's easier on the eyes.
It was my 3rd or 4th grow before I had the luxury of both HPS and MH. If I had me 'druthers. I'd druther use MH if I had to choose one or the other, simply because it's easier on the eyes.
Stomper420
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Yea thats true...HPS blows my eyes out. I wear glasses in my flower room..lol..Thanks for the info..Ill stick with the MH
kvnbeach
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Sorry to rob this thread but I have a question of a similiar nature. I am vegging with a metal halide 600w conversion bulb. Seem s very week. I have a lumen meter and that conversion bulb just doesnt quite have it. I could triple my lumen output if I put my HPS bulb in. This is my vegg room. My flower room is a 1000hps. Please and thank you.
Malevolence
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Def use the HPS then.
xmax
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The Philips CMH is very bright, and the plants love it for all stages of growth.View attachment 2446608
Jack Harer
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Dont get me wrong here,I was talking about having to choose between one or the other. If you have the option of both, by all means use 'em! I just have never been a fan of either dual arc or conversion bulbs simply because of the loss of lumens you get.
hotrodharley
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Like others I have used both types for both stages of growth. If I can only use one it's HPS. As a matter of fact I have a 1000 watt HPS for 12/12 and due to some enthused planting have more than fit under it. So I have the remainder under a 400 watt MH. Those in the periphery of both lights tend to lean toward the HPS during flower.
Use the HPS for the lumens and sleep easy.
Jack Harer
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HPS will give ya more lumens, without a doubt. It just fucks with my eyes so bad. Damn good results can be had with either one if you have to go with one or the other. I agree that they will lean towards the HPS when using both (I got the same results as HotRod when I ran my side by sides.) I now switch the hoods around every other day to evenly distribute the lights. Yeah, its a PITA, but thats just my preference. I'm "shickled titless" with my results.
Jack Harer
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http://www.lightexports.com/servlet/the-3271/EIKO-LU600-Grow--dsh-/Detail
Check yer inbox Kev. That LU600 puts out right at 90,000 lumens. I say use that one over the CMH. Just my opinion.
Check yer inbox Kev. That LU600 puts out right at 90,000 lumens. I say use that one over the CMH. Just my opinion.
Kite High
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Can you please give a manufacturer and model number for the 600 CMH?
Jack Harer
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I'd be interested in the CMH brand as well. The ones I used before were all 400w, and I can't seem to find anything bigger than that.
Kite High
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Philips does have a 830 watt for 1000 watt MH ballasts...available here
http://lightbulbhut.com/cdm830vo4k-allstart-p-7418.html?osCsid=52b93d2eb758499cc0d24f87ff3c61a4
http://lightbulbhut.com/cdm830vo4k-allstart-p-7418.html?osCsid=52b93d2eb758499cc0d24f87ff3c61a4
kvnbeach
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Plant max. $35.
Kite High
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Plantmax does not market a CMH that I am aware of...please provide a link...thanx
kvnbeach
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I got it from a local grow store. Dont have a link.
I geuss I get to say yes they do market a 600MHC. LOL. Very, blue
I have a candle power meter. I dont do all the math involved in it, I use it as a reference.
600MHC
1"(away)=20(on the meter)
3"=12
6"=7
12"=2
2 is what I get with my 15w flourescent light I use for clones. This is 12" away.
1000w Halide
12"=60
1000w HPS
12"=75
When my wife gets out of be, she is sick, I will go down and run some test on the HPS 600w bulb. Thanks for that info Jack Herer.
I geuss I get to say yes they do market a 600MHC. LOL. Very, blueI have a candle power meter. I dont do all the math involved in it, I use it as a reference.
600MHC
1"(away)=20(on the meter)
3"=12
6"=7
12"=2
2 is what I get with my 15w flourescent light I use for clones. This is 12" away.
1000w Halide
12"=60
1000w HPS
12"=75
When my wife gets out of be, she is sick, I will go down and run some test on the HPS 600w bulb. Thanks for that info Jack Herer.
kvnbeach
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Here's my Grow shop. This dude rocks. Best deals anywhere. I know u guys may not live in Wa. state, but it is legal here now.
Lynnwood co-op (indoor garden and hydroponics)
19505 24th ave w
ste 104
Lynnwood, Wa. 98036
[email protected]
www.lcogarden.com
I got my plantmax 1000w hps bulb $30. he has 1000w ballast for $95+tax. I got my 6"xtrasun hood for $85.
Lynnwood co-op (indoor garden and hydroponics)
19505 24th ave w
ste 104
Lynnwood, Wa. 98036
[email protected]
www.lcogarden.com
I got my plantmax 1000w hps bulb $30. he has 1000w ballast for $95+tax. I got my 6"xtrasun hood for $85.