HPS heat vs led heat

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growingforfun

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Overgrowthegov said:
I run 8x4. 1.1kw QBs 2x260xl and 1x600h. Can't speak for your leds but QB can be 10 inches no prob as long as it isn't the 600h. Just pinch them and grow them horizontally.

Yield, well it depends on number of plants or veg time etc etc. i run 30 plants, 3 weeks veg.

Oh shoot i think you were talking about hps being 10 inches. Well that is ok as long as you can keep the heat down. Pinch the stem and let the buds grow horizontal if they are too close.
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I've already done as much of that as I could. My scrog is just too packed.. seriously got to be a "cola" in every single sq inch.
My next run is going to be more like a common set up, between 4 and 9 plants in a 5x5 under the scrog to see if i can get better numbers.
My current run was a reveg. I couldn't really do it any other way unfortunatly.. I finally found a keeper pheno after sprouting at least 100 beans of this strain. I tried planting 72 beans of another strain for this cycle but NONE sprouted. All my stuff is old.. and I've still got hundreds of beans from back in the day so it's hard to buy beans until I plant every last one of those. I've got a load of tga gear from like 6 years ago I wanna bring out this winter n pray it sprouts
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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Overgrowthegov said:
I don't have to prove anything to anyone other than myself. And I am super happy with the quality, density, etc., it's off the charts man. I will pull one of those bags out and show you some pics when I get a minute to do so man, you will not be disappointed! I certainly was not. And I saved 100$ a month, no sacrifice on quality. I smoke a LOT so I would only be cheating myself man if I was lying!
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Show us all your hps bud pics. And watch.
 
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a mongo frog said:
That exact fox tailing is what I'm talking about when i say "lost". Yea hps has its fox tailing but nothing like QB's do. Takes the quality right out of everything. Doesn't even compare to hps grown bud. Atleast mine did not.
@Kingrow1 told you guys why and all you guys did was slam him and called him a troll.
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I'd have to agree somewhat with what your saying. I personally do not much like it when my buds foxtail. I do know theres nothing "wrong" with them.. but they are harder to trim an as many people dislike it as love it. Give my a pinecone/golf ball any day! That said for some reason foxtailed bud harvests are always the big yielders
 
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Overgrowthegov

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growingforfun said:
I've already done as much of that as I could. My scrog is just too packed.. seriously got to be a "cola" in every single sq inch.
My next run is going to be more like a common set up, between 4 and 9 plants in a 5x5 under the scrog to see if i can get better numbers.
My current run was a reveg. I couldn't really do it any other way unfortunatly.. I finally found a keeper pheno after sprouting at least 100 beans of this strain. I tried planting 72 beans of another strain for this cycle but NONE sprouted. All my stuff is old.. and I've still got hundreds of beans from back in the day so it's hard to buy beans until I plant every last one of those. I've got a load of tga gear from like 6 years ago I wanna bring out this winter n pray it sprouts
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Holy shit talk about some really cool keeper genetics....wow man.
 
Overgrowthegov

Overgrowthegov

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a mongo frog said:
Show us all your hps bud pics. And watch.
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To be honest man, after I spent 2k on these QB, i packed up all my HPS and I was like, ok, if it turns out I need too much supplemental heat in the winter, THEN I will use my HPS again. I haven't had a winter yet since I got them, so I don't know what is more efficient. Time will tell. Anyways I got a great yield and high potency crop off my 3k QBs, not sure what you are talking about.
 
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a mongo frog said:
If you are close to San Francisco you can have No sell just have and see what I'm talking about. 600 watts piece of shit. Thousand bucks says you beg me to take it back.
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I kinda wanna take a drive with a offer like that to be honest. Plus I want to go back to SF, promised my wife I'd take her
 
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growingforfun

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a mongo frog said:
If you are close to San Francisco you can have No sell just have and see what I'm talking about. 600 watts piece of shit. Thousand bucks says you beg me to take it back.
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It would be October till I could afford the trip, an have the time it's about a 2 day drive an I know offers like this dont last long haha
 
CCCmints

CCCmints

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a mongo frog said:
No pride swallowed. People starting talking half the watts same yield same/better quality, so i tried it. Less heat so i tried it. Dropped a couple grand and lost. Whats your story? You don't even grow anymore and you are trying to give advice.
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So explain exactly what you did. What did you build? How is it the techs fault? Maybe you just suck at growing weed? Because you're incapable of evolving and are now stuck in the past, while the rest zoom ahead? Why are some people succeeding with the same tech, but you failed? Sounds like operator error to me, or you're just shit at growing cannabis in general. I think its both. Did you even consider the idea that you may have to alter some factors of the grow to properly use the proven tech you failed to succeed with? Did you grow more than one run? Or just fail miserably and throw your money in the trash?
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Dude at least show us all the dried bud pics. We all got week 4 pics. Dump it all out show us. Is all that top shelf bud to you? I already know you are a good gardener thats not the point. The point is this new LED tech is no where near what hps is doing in quality. Don't take it the wrong way man, I yielded a bunch of shit bud also using "new tech LED".
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You think you can assess the quality of bud by looking at a picture? I hope you're not being serious, cause I wouldn't be talking shit while saying stupid shit like that.
 
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CCCmints said:
So explain exactly what you did. What did you build? How is it the techs fault? Maybe you just suck at growing weed? Because you're incapable of evolving and are now stuck in the past, while the rest zoom ahead? Why are some people succeeding with the same tech, but you failed? Sounds like operator error to me, or you're just shit at growing cannabis in general. I think its both.

You think you can assess the quality of bud by looking at a picture? I hope you're not being serious, cause I wouldn't be talking shit while saying stupid shit like that.
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Go look at post #142 you show me something better then that comming from QB's. Not yours, because you don't grow. Anyones.
 
CCCmints

CCCmints

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a mongo frog said:
Go look at post #142 you show me something better then that comming from QB's. Not yours, because you don't grow. Anyones.
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Are you missing the point? I can't judge the quality of marijuana by looking at a picture, no one fucking can. If you think you can, maybe that's why you're having so much trouble growing.

Its strange because my guys are doing just fine with the tech...I wonder what the differences between you and them are? One of them was a die hard HPS guy who believed LED was only good for supplemental lighting. Might you be the problem?
 
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growingforfun

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CCCmints said:
You think you can assess the quality of bud by looking at a picture? I hope you're not being serious, cause I wouldn't be talking shit while saying stupid shit like that.
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Here's the thing, one of the biggest factors is in fact BAG APPEAL. It's like presentation with food. Know we all know theres bud out there that's 1000x better than it look at first glance. As a personal grower it's easy to overlook the bag appeal aspect because hey, you know what's good, and you like what you like an that's all there is to it. However let's say someone walks into the dispo, they have let's say 30 options to pic from. They are likely going to look at each jar, pick out 5 that look good, maybe smell em, an buy what they want.
After 8 years of growing I def have a bud structure I'm after.
Imo your buds DO look good. However it's also not the structure I would be thrilled to pull from my garden as a monocrop. As part of a few strains, sure, because it does look good imo.

All that said I have never used QBs, would love to give em a shot. I used to have a 600 true watt burple but it was stolen... that burple was a good tool and grew bud, and truly shined as a SUPPLIMENT to hps.
 
CCCmints

CCCmints

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growingforfun said:
Here's the thing, one of the biggest factors is in fact BAG APPEAL. It's like presentation with food. Know we all know theres bud out there that's 1000x better than it look at first glance. As a personal grower it's easy to overlook the bag appeal aspect because hey, you know what's good, and you like what you like an that's all there is to it. However let's say someone walks into the dispo, they have let's say 30 options to pic from. They are likely going to look at each jar, pick out 5 that look good, maybe smell em, an buy what they want.
After 8 years of growing I def have a bud structure I'm after.
Imo your buds DO look good. However it's also not the structure I would be thrilled to pull from my garden as a monocrop. As part of a few strains, sure, because it does look good imo.

All that said I have never used QBs, would love to give em a shot. I used to have a 600 true watt burple but it was stolen... that burple was a good tool and grew bud, and truly shined as a SUPPLIMENT to hps.
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The dude is running around demanding pictures of weed as proof of its quality. He's a fucking idiot. I've never had an intelligent interaction with him. Its not my fault he can't grow good weed, and its not the lights fault either!
 
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CCCmints said:
The dude is running around demanding pictures of weed as proof of its quality. He's a fucking idiot. I've never had an intelligent interaction with him. Its not my fault he can't grow good weed, and its not the lights fault either!
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2 things.
First, did I miss something? I feel like I saw someone say hey man long time no, good to have you back, and since then you've basically been saying fuck you to him in every post. Anyways...
And second, I see where hes coming from. Many of the pictures of quantum board grows are foxtailed buds. I've heard several times QBs encourage foxtailing.

Foxtail buds are one of those things that some people love or at least dont care, and some hate and wont allow in the garden.

A Mongo frog seems to be in the camp he wont allow them in his garden and as a result wont use a QB.

What's wrong with any of this?
 
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