how to get bigger colas?

whitebb2727

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Bro your theory is that outdoor robust plants are generally ass kickers?

I havent seen a pattern observing indoor plants. But i wouldn't be surprised to find that strong growers express their terpenes more completely in and outdoors.
Thats my theory. If a heat wave killed ten and one lived or early frost killed ten and one lived. The ones that adapt and overcame. The ones that have been severely stressed and still turn out healthy and strong. Like humans. Sometimes you find a person that is strong, smart, good looking, and healthy.
 

taGyo

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I know,

I'm just trying to hear from the breeders where they say that fem seeds are more likely to herm when in truth it depends on how they were bred and all seeds have a chance of herming in poor conditions which is 100% grower error.
 

skunkd0c

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halfway through they talk about fems. Environment has no role in hermies. Its the stability of the genetics .
i agree with this for the most part, hermies are mostly the result of poor breeding
but breeders/pollen chuckers like to blame growers for their shitty breeding
and it seems many growers who are susceptible to breeder hero worship are only to willing to accept blame

it takes a huge amount of repeated environmental stress to cause hermies
light leaks are an exaggerated cause imo, excess heat around colas can cause hermies
but again many well breed strains will be resilient to this
 

Carolina Dream'n

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how the hell my subject get so off....???? im 2 weeks in flower n want nice colas !!!!!! ive been pruning scatter out last couple days..makde homemade scrog...no legs on one to spread it out, get more light...other one tyied down but bushy as hell,,major fan leaves,,,don't know if I should leave it alone or try spread it more...advice would help,,,there lookin awesome tho,,,had fem seed that went hermie,,,was strawberry blue....pretty sure I stressed that one out bad...its gone now..put it in woods...lol...will go back get seeds end of year...jus need n want good yield with what I have left...chocolate skunk,,,afgani...auto biodiesel
Lollipop your plant around the time they show bud sites (day 7-21 depending On strain). Your taking everything that doesn't get light away. It's a waste of energy. Do not remove any fan leaves above your lollipop line. I use two trellis nets 6 inches apart. Everything below the bottom one gets chopped off.
 

Carolina Dream'n

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never said they weren't, But, You can't agree with a 60% herm rate being the fault of the breeders and not the hyroot. I use hyroot, because the other word would be grower, and well, you know.
That was a good burn. Lol. I have never had 60% germs myself. I have had about 25%. And no I am not a inexperienced noob grower. It was HSO- green crack that was full of Hermes. I'm not sayin the fem seeds don't have their place, if one doesn't have much room to phenotype, that's a good option for them. Guerrilla grows from seeds, another good option.

I personally like the having both traits from the father and mother.
 

hyroot

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stable genetics do not herm... unstable genetics herm. fems are unstable due to traits lacking from the father plant. end of story and fact.

I never once got a hermie from a reg seed only from fems.

watch the whole video. if you are not willing to put in the time to learn then don't grow. just troll like the other half asses here
 

chuck estevez

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^^^^^ half assed would be a 60% herm rate. No One is saying fem seeds are awesome, they are just saying, without the hyroot, the % of hermies would be FAR less.
 

taGyo

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What's wrong with Fem seeds Chuck? I ordered a bunch for my first few runs and I kind of regret it now lol. Read a bunch of stuff on herms and a bunch of people saying it's 90% the grower.
 

chuck estevez

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What's wrong with Fem seeds Chuck? I ordered a bunch for my first few runs and I kind of regret it now lol. Read a bunch of stuff on herms and a bunch of people saying it's 90% the grower.
aside from the already mentioned? I prefer a lower chance of hermie and like finding that special pheno that has the traits I am looking for. I don't do a lot of seeds, I prefer to trade High quality strains for the same. then hang on to the elite cuts.
 

skunkd0c

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I never once got a hermie from a reg seed only from fems.
OG lines are well known for intersex problems with regular seeds too
hermies occur naturally

i have seen a few hermies with regular seeds, last one was biker kush from karma genetics

Hyroot, why are your experiences so different to everyone else ?
 

taGyo

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aside from the already mentioned? I prefer a lower chance of hermie and like finding that special pheno that has the traits I am looking for. I don't do a lot of seeds, I prefer to trade High quality strains for the same. then hang on to the elite cuts.
Guess I just have to take my chances.
OG lines are well known for intersex problems with regular seeds too
hermies occur naturally

i have seen a few hermies with regular seeds, last one was biker kush from karma genetics

Hyroot, why are your experiences so different to everyone else ?
Your sig is fucking amazing.
 

testiclees

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im not super experienced. Ive grown a few plants reg Ace seeds, very nice results. Ive grown quite a few fem Sannie, Ace, Ministry, Cannabiogen...never had a herm problem. i have decent environment not perfect.

Ive not noticed a quality difference in flowers of reg vs fem.
Does sciece say that fems are lacking something?

By science i dont mean a know it all gas bag. i mean a reference to a paper that has been peer reviewed.
 

taGyo

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As far as I've read no.

http://www.hightimes.com/read/regular-vs-feminized-seed-showdown

Don't you think that's kind of an unfair comparison given that you purchased from a different seed bank/different strain? If you bought one Ace Seed reg pack and another Ace Seed fem pack of the same strain and then said it was lacking in something I'd say okay but to buy one strain from Ace and then a diff strain from Ace kind of makes your results a bit inconclusive.

That article I linked made me buy fem seeds, says their's literally no difference between fem AK and reg AK.
 

lonzo212

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Lollipop your plant around the time they show bud sites (day 7-21 depending On strain). Your taking everything that doesn't get light away. It's a waste of energy. Do not remove any fan leaves above your lollipop line. I use two trellis nets 6 inches apart. Everything below the bottom one gets chopped off.
ty sir...prune before flip...gotcha....I didn't...pruned a lil in early flower...can I prune during flower?? thing is a monster,,,bushy...healthy lookin...do I keep trying to spread it out? or jus leave it alone...its lst an tied down...ty ty
 

Capt. Stickyfingers

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you are so clueless. Please how am I contradiction. those pics captain asshole posted were from 2011 right after I first switched to soil from hydro aero before I went no till living organics. He can't find a single pics in the last few years to make.me look bad. So he had to dig for.my first thread ever.

so say sorry or fuck off.

you didn't post a thing. You are a moron and the one whose a walking contradiction. You have very little experience growing. Its very obvious because you would know.better if you had real experience. You are a newb
They were not. It took me a whole minute to dig those pics up from your recent posts. You're a fucking joke and everything these guys are saying about you is true. The things you do to poor plants for your own twisted self pleasure is repulsive! Get off the internet!
 
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